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Title: EGO Post by gape on 01.09.2002 at 18:24:14 Zaenkrat je o tej temi tolk napisanega: če po forumu poiščm besedo ego, in če jo omejim samo na ime threada, dobim ven tole: Njegova svetost 14. DALAJ LAMA http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=knjige_filmi;action=display;num=1010060503;start=30 Egotrip? http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=ezofest;action=display;num=1011004918;start=14 ----- ego, posvečenih http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=forum;action=display;num=1016744418;start=0 ego... Tako in drugače! ;) http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1013874580;start=0 gape wrote on 16.02.2002 at 15:19:02:
gape wrote on 16.02.2002 at 18:29:25:
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Avenija ego http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=990562710;start=8 ego? http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=92;start=35 MP3CE wrote on 29.04.2001 at 23:53:11:
recimo ... višji jaz se vidi v egu podobno kot v ogledalu ... vidi zrcalno sliko. to ni isto, je zrcalno drugače. dve plati istega kovanca. odvisno od kje gledaš. aleš je prov znanstveno zastavu reč ... Pikalo in njegov (in naš) boj http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=slovenija;action=display;num=987536202;start=19 gape wrote on 20.04.2001 at 12:25:14:
odveč je govort da če besedo ego iščem po forumu mi malodane vse threade da za prebrat. ego v slovenščini je vsebovan v res veliko besedah |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 01.09.2002 at 18:26:00 seveda pa je resnica glih drugačna začelo se je s pikalom in končalo z dalajlamo najpomembnejše pa je tukaj ime društva društvo za ozaveščanje in osebnostno rast - sonce saj osebnost je v bistvu ego tudi to je pot da se ego napihne do te mere da poči, ena od poti. ---------------------------------- ni mi treba replayat - hvala ---------------------------------- tuki seveda takoj uletijo na sceno dodatne povezave: Baršek http://www.gape.org/gapes/prispevki/resniceg_izvl.htm#ego Quote:
Osho http://www.gape.org/gapes/prispevki/egooshoslo.htm Quote:
Maitreya http://www.gape.org/vratavraj/enews/files/maitreya-ego.htm Quote:
castaneda - predator - blatne sence http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=knjige_filmi;action=display;num=1010347682 Quote:
Senca by Herby http://www.gape.org/geeklog/public_html/article.php?story=20020830145042459 Quote:
ana wrote on 05.09.2002 at 12:13:06:
trije dejavniki, ki so v budizmu omenjeni kot gospodar oblike, gospodar govora in tisti uma Tako prvi pomeni nenehno iskanje fizičnega udobja, varnosti in užitka, drugi je povezan z načinom uporabe intelekta za popis stvarnosti, s katerim se ego zavaruje pred neposrednim zaznavanjem sveta, tretji pa s prizadevanjem zavesti, da bi ohranila zavedanje same sebe http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=spolnost;action=display;num=1045754147;start=97#97 klimax wrote on 16.09.2002 at 17:00:03:
karma Večina izmed nas verjame, da smo na tem svetu samo za časa našega življenja. Tega življenja, ki ga živimo v tem trenutku. Da ni bilo ničesar prej in da nas tudi ne bo več potem, ko ugasne naše trenutno življenje. Pa vendarle se nagibam k razmišljanju, da pa je le bil del nas preden smo se rodili v ta svet in bo del nas ostal tudi potem, ko bomo ta svet zapustili. Del nas živi to življenje, recimo temu osebnost, del nas je obstajal pred našim spočetjem v ta svet in bo obstajal tudi potem, ko bomo samo še prah in pepel… Recimo temu duša… Duša obstaja izven časa… Duša nima omejitev, ki jih ima osebnost… Tistega torej, kar vidimo, slišimo, vonjamo, okusimo in otipamo. Pogled duše je neizmeren in zaznavanje duše je brez omejitev, ki jih ima osebnost… In je del naše osebnosti… http://www.gape.org/geeklog/public_html/article.php?story=2002090217040620 Štirje dogovori - tolteške modrosti ana wrote on 22.09.2002 at 08:48:27:
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Title: Re: EGO - TEORIJA GAPE Post by gape on 01.09.2002 at 18:32:03 TEORIJA GAPE na to temo: Koristoljubje http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=prijateljstvo;action=display;num=1033862100;start=0#5 Poseganje župnika http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=vera;action=display;num=1032285360;start=45#47 TRI RDEČE NITI http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=knjige_filmi;action=display;num=1013932371;start=0#1 na ego deluješ skozi dvojnost, al pa skozi enost http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=svetovalnica;action=display;num=1025215618;start=140#140 http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=svetovalnica;action=display;num=1029621474;start=26#26 verjamem-vem http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=vera;action=display;num=1030540481;start=78#78 ego-strah http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=svetovalnica;action=display;num=1025215618;start=118#118 http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?action=display;board=svetovalnica;num=1027968344;start=0#10 BOG http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=vera;action=display;num=1030540304;start=15#21 srčna čakra, zakaj samo do tja http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=vera;action=display;num=1030540649;start=30#41 Trenutek resnice? http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=prijateljstvo;action=display;num=1026470072;start=76#76 http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=prijateljstvo;action=display;num=1026470072;start=26#26 Črna magija http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=989490278;start=134#134 Re: Ego... Tako in drugače! ;) http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1013874580;start=4#4 http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1013874580;start=30#34 INTUICIJA http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=prijateljstvo;action=display;num=1006856278;start=106#106 Obnašanje na vedeževalskem chatu http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=forum;action=display;num=1033851816;start=105#115 Vzorci http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1007064229;start=0#1 sanje http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?action=display;board=izventelesneizkusnje;num=993487865;start=45#55 [quote author=gape link=1052643844/60#69 date=1053772029]vzorca se najprej zavemo in šele nato ga ozavestimo. prvo je začetek poti in drugo je konec poti ozaveščanja vzorca. dela sebe. ampak prej ko vzorca niti prepoznal nisi, prej si deloval po tem vzorcu, tako kot si bil naučen. naučil si se sam, učili so te pa drugi. učitelje si izbral sam, tiste ki si jih potreboval. se reče višji jaz ni mogel tega prostora, nezavednega prostora pravzaprav, napolniti z energijo in zato je bilo telo prikrajšano za marsikaj, saj če bi tisti vzorec za pretok svoje energije in moči lahko uporabljal višji jaz, bi se dogajale čudovite reči. menda v vzorcih ležijo naše največje spretnosti in znanja, pridobljena že prej. tko so se pa dogajale stvari, ki se jim reče preživetje. nagon. in ker smo naučeni napačnih predpostavk, se za preživetje borimo na napačen način. telo se bori za preživetje. in se s tem oddaljuje od tistega, ki mu življenje sploh daje. material da zemlja, duha da pa duh. ti vzorci so vedno neki kar nas spravlja v slabe filinge, se reče, so vzrok slabih filingov. ko se zaveš da te neki nekje vedno spravi v slabe filinge, začneš z zaveščanjem vzorca - vzroka - napačne naučenosti. ko ga ozavestiš popolnoma, lahko tudi ta del aure zapolni višji jaz s svojo močjo. ta je precej večja kot telesna moč. tko da ... tko kot ti pojmuješ sebe himi, dejansko že prej izkoriščaš vzorce v svojo korist. jest pa sebe pojmujem kot nekaj drugega in če hočem izkoriščat te vzorce v svojo korist in korist drugih in korist boga, jih moram najprej ozavestit, se naučit tisto kar so me pršli naučit. vzorci in ljudje - duše, ki so mi jih predali. skratka egu moram odvzet kontrolo nad temi vzorci. ko kontrole ni več, lahko to pot izkoristim za kreativno kanaliziranje energije in moči iz vesolja na zemljo. iz vedno višjih dimenzij/svetov/nivojev/... v nižje. na najnižjega ... materijo. iz misli v materijo. materializacija. materializer. vsi to znamo. edino čas nas jebe. čas pa porabljamo zato ker naši energetski kanali niso pretočni ampak so zabutani z vzorci (ki so pod kontolo (z lahkoto na to gledaš tko da namest da bi se odločitveno vezje odločlo v realnem času, se mora za odločitev poklicat podporgram in ta ima seveda spet podprograme, saj so vzorci prepleteni in soodvisni med sabo - in čas teče in aplikacija je počasna - ti podprogrami so pa u bistvu ego)), in po teh kanalih energija in moč ne moreta tečt brez upora ampak samo z uporom in ta upor pobira čas. ustvarja čas pravzaprav. [/quote] |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 04.09.2002 at 23:44:05 strah http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=prijateljstvo;action=display;num=1013505796;start=33 |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 05.09.2002 at 01:09:41 no in če iščem po www.najdi.si dobim tole Ego Card - jezik: slovenski Ime: Žejn d.o.o. Naslov: C.1.Maja 17 4270 Jesenice Telefon: 01 56 32 696 Fax: 04 5864 337 E-pošta: info@zejn.si Domača stran: www.zejn.si www.security-solutions.info ... http://www.zejn.si/ego_slo.html - 3 KB - 25.3.2002 PREDSTAVITEV IZDELKOV - Ego - jezik: slovenski ... dokazujejo z visokokakovostnimi in z naravnimi dodatki obogatenimi izdelki. Fermentirano mleko Ego je bilo med prvimi probiotičnimi izdelki v Sloveniji. Izdelano je iz posnetega mleka z 1,3% ... http://www.lj-mlek.si/izdelki/izdelki06.htm - 10 KB - 22.12.2000 Svet pogovorov - Ego... Tako in drugače! ;) - jezik: slovenski ... Vse je odvisno od tega,kaj si predstavljamo pod besedo ego. Težko je rečt,kaj sploh je ego.Egotu pripišemo neke določene vzorce razmišljanja.Da je ego pač tisto,kar razmišlja samo o sebi.Torej le za ... http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1013874580 - 90 KB - 28.8.2002 Ego malfunction Egonova Domača stran Reiki Ego Masters - are you one of them? - jezik: angleški ... - sarcastic/ironic elaboration on Reiki business today. Sad but true. Ego-masters at their best - short and true story about ego-masters. Spamvertising - a joke on "spiritual advertising". ... http://www.sharereiki.org/info/ego.htm - 25 KB - 18.4.2002 naš stari prijatelj maxix phorum - MEDSEBOJNI ODNOSI - ego problem - jezik: slovenski ... Re: ego problem novo Jure 29.07.02 19:46 Re: ego problem novo euro 02.08.02 14:21 Re: ego problem novo Tani 02.08.02 18:44 Re: ego problem novo ... http://www.mojuspeh.com/phorum/read.php?f=14&i=57&t=57 - 17 KB - 10.8.2002 Ego - The False Center - jezik: angleški ... world; nobody is as humble as you are." Then see the smile that comes on their faces. What is ego? Ego is a hierarchy that says, "No one is like me." It can feed on humbleness - "Nobody is like me, ... http://www.gape.org/gapes/prispevki/egooshoeng.htm - 32 KB - 16.4.2001 google mi ne ve povedat nič pametnega |
Title: Re: EGO - senca Post by gape on 05.09.2002 at 02:31:41 Senca by Herby http://www.gape.org/geeklog/public_html/article.php?story=20020830145042459 Ko zdravimo, sestavljamo samega sebe v celoto, kar pomeni, da smo trenutno razdrobljeni oz. v stanju ločenosti. Razdeljeni smo v dve osnovni polovici, ena je "ti, ki misliš, da si ti" (tvoja ideja samega sebe) in drugi del, ki je tvoja senca (vse, za kar si prepričan, da nisi ti). senca je vse, kar zavrnemo, zanikamo, zaničujemo, preziramo, se bojimo, sovražimo, bežimo stran in želimo, da gre stran od nas in nas pusti na miru. Senčni del so vse tiste kvalitete in obnašanja, ki v nas zbudijo neudobne reakcije. odnosi - "zrcala"; v drugih ljudeh vidimo tisto, kar je del naše sence. Odnosi nam ne zrcalijo nazaj našega ega, temveč senco, neprepoznavni del samega sebe. (tisto kar niti ego noče videt?) Krivda je primerna beseda, ki pokrije vse različne načine, s katerimi se odzivamo na našo senco: zavrnitev, zanikanje, gnus, strah, sovraštvo, beg itd. Krivda je način, kako ego reče: "Pojdi stran, nisi mi všeč, ti nisi jaz." Z drugimi besedami: "Živjo senca." Krivda ponavadi spremlja neprijetne občutke, medtem ko se želimo čim bolj odmakniti od vira neugodja, ki ga ego doživlja kot nekaj izven nas. Zakaj je temu tako? Razlog, zakaj je senca tako neprijetna, je, ker ego obstaja samo kot nasprotje sence. Krivda služi kot orodje za ločevanje med egom in senco. (v senci je ravno tako višji jaz?) Nekoga krivimo, kadar nam kaže del naše sence. To storimo zato, ker nam ogroža našo identiteto in ego potrebuje okrepiti občutek ločenosti od sence. Tudi kadar s svojim vedenjem pokažemo senco nekomu drugemu, se za to obtožujemo. Kmalu se ujamemo v igro obtoževanja, ker se obtožujemo. čutimo krivdo, ko zanikamo del našega Pravega Jaza, ki je del nas. Krivda, ki jo čutiš, je tvoje lastno zanikanje, da si zmožen oz. si že storil tako dejanje nekomu drugemu oz. samemu sebi. Zavedati se moramo, da si druge osebe same zadanejo trpljenje in da mi sami ustvarjamo svoje trpljenje. Karkoli zanikaš, to je tvoja senca. V tem primeru je senca moč, da sam ustvarjaš svoja izkustva. Ne bi želel tega dela sprejeti v svojo zavest? hvala herby |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 05.09.2002 at 20:53:57 Pri skoraj vseh okoliščinah, ki se nam postavijo na pot, naše odločitve v večini primerov niso imele prav veliko zraven. Pomembno pa je, kako mi v teh okoliščinah reagiramo. http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=vera;action=display;num=1030873378;start=90#98 |
Title: Re: EGO - jeza Post by gape on 09.09.2002 at 22:49:47 jeza http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=prijateljstvo;action=display;num=1031317819;start=0 |
Title: Re: EGO Post by titud on 10.09.2002 at 10:06:39 Quote:
Zmaj ega Vsi zmaji so mostri preoblačenja. Zdi se, da je zmaj ega najbolj prebrisan od vseh. Večina nas se skuša boriti z zmajem samopomembnosti. Videvam veliko ljudi, ki se podcenjujejo in se vsakemu poskusu zaupanja vase uprejo z ugovorom in strahom. Nadvse uspešno se borijo z zmajem prevelikega zaupanja vase in samopomembnosti. In to je prav. Preveliko zaupanje vase, domišljavost, samopomembnost škodujejo uravnovešeni rasti. A to je le krinka. Domišljavost ni to, kar se zdi. Nekdo, ki se mu zdi, da je 'v redu', ni domišljav, ni 'boljši kot', temveč je 'v redu'. Domišljavi, samopomembni in preveč samozavestni so ponavadi ljudje, ki se bojijo, da niso primerni in da niso 'v redu'. Medtem, ko se borimo z bojaznijo, da bomo postali domišljavi, privabljamo prebrisanega zmaja. Prebrisni zmaj ega nosi napis skromnost, a to ni njegovo pravo ime. Imenuje se 'pomanjkanje spoštovanja do tega, kar sem'. Na grožnjo ega se prepogosto odzovemo tako, da se zaničujemo in podcenjujemo ter spodkopavamo samozavest, ki jo potrebujemo, če hočemo dobro opraviti delo. Zmaja ega lahko premagamo tako, da razvijemo zdrav ego, ki je pomočnik in ne gospodar. Postati moramo uravnovešeni, kar pomeni, da spoštujemo to, kar smo, ter smo hkrati skromno (a ne samoomalovažujoče) hvaležni za to. Če bi tole razmišljanje o egu pripisal seb, bi me v krempljih držal zamaj samomopomebnosti. Če bi zanikal, da sem tud sam kdaj na kaj takega pomislu, bi me imel v krempljih zmaj samoomalovaževanja. Edino, če izrazim skromno hvaležnost samemu seb, da sem tak tekst sposbern odkrit pa ponotranjit, pol mam po moje še mal upanja, da bom egota iz gospodarja naredu pomočnika. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 10.09.2002 at 10:16:56 ja ego, ki se odraža v telesu, mora postat pomočnik, ne gospodar ... komu ... komu le ... meni ... jaz sem, višji jaz ... telo mora postat tempelj za boga - jaz sem 'mora' lahko zamenjaš s katerokoli besedo ki je tvojemu egu še zdržjiva ... |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Edi on 10.09.2002 at 11:17:52 Osho o Budi, Egu... : http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1009464289;start=4#4 In tu tiči problem; vsako upanje je hrana za ego. Tudi upanje za dosego božanskega stanja, tudi upanje za razsvetlitev je samo upanje, ponavljam, hrana za ego. Kdo je tisti, ki se trudi postati razsvetljen? Tisti ki se trudi je v bistvu problem. Nikdar in nikoli nihče ni postal razsvetljen. Razvetljenje se zgodi, toda nihče se nikoli ni razsvetlil. Šele ko ste prazni, kot prazna soba, se zgodi razsvetljenje. Šele takrat, ko ni nikogar ki se trudi, da bi se razsvetlil, pride. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 10.09.2002 at 23:16:33 http://www.crystalinks.com/kabala.html http://www.crystalinks.com/archetypes.html The internet had to happen so we can all share information and put the pieces of the puzzle together as we help each other remember. http://www.crystalinks.com/sirius.html If you have found your way to this file, there is something about Sirius or the metaphors linked to it that is a trigger for you. Perhaps it is about Nibiru which many people feel will return in 2003. This will not happen but is yet another metaphor for our awakening consciousness. trigger-ji http://www.crystalinks.com/sacred_geometry.html |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 14.09.2002 at 02:47:48 SeK wrote on 13.09.2002 at 23:27:15:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 15.09.2002 at 12:33:00 Misel ogradi srce s kamnom; misel pa tudi razbije kamneni oklep. http://www2.arnes.si/~mmetel/prva.html če povem v mojem jeziku - misli zgradijo ego - oklep in samo misli lahko ta oklep razbijejo - transformirajo ... v ne-oklep, tisti-ki-ne-oklepa-nedelovanja-jaz-sem-a, mu dovoli da je to kar je == JAZ SEM, ne pa tisto-kar-nisem == EGO. edit http://surf.pef.uni-lj.si/forum/cerkev/messages/10328.html |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 02.10.2002 at 00:04:58 edit wrote on 14.05.2003 at 07:51:57:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 05.10.2002 at 00:54:56 gape wrote on 21.06.2003 at 00:55:11:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 05.10.2002 at 21:54:42 NOČNA MAGIJA http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=knjige_filmi;action=display;num=1033674145;start=4 http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=izventelesneizkusnje;action=display;num=993487865;start=45#56 edit (Ne)navezanost http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=prijateljstvo;action=display;num=1011520444;start=13 |
Title: Re: EGO - MEDITACIJA: UMETNOST EKSTAZE Post by gape on 27.10.2002 at 15:44:37 osho - MEDITACIJA: UMETNOST EKSTAZE http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=knjige_filmi;action=display;num=1035729640;start=2 ----------- Every existence has three layers. The deepest is the witnessing consciousness. In the middle is vital energy and just on the surface is matter, a material body. This technique says, this consciousness exists as each being, and nothing else exists. What are you? Who are you? If you close your eyes and try to find out who you are, ultimately you are bound to come to a conclusion that you are consciousness. http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=samozdravljenje;action=display;num=1000903871;start=15#19 en post višje so še: MEDITATIONS FOR BUSY PEOPLE edit formless wrote on 13.06.2003 at 16:32:14:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 12.11.2002 at 18:45:10 ena stara ampak dobra reinkarnacija - različnost http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=prijateljstvo;action=display;num=1026556277;start=28#28 |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Robi on 22.11.2002 at 21:26:03 Glede sesuvanja Ego-ta... Ne gre za sesuvanje, ker ga ni možno sesuti. Govorim na osnovi teze, da je ego sestavljen iz vzorcev in če so vsi odgovori v nas, bi potem, ko bi sesuli ego oz. vzorce, ne bi bilo v nas več nobenih odgovorov. Torej, več ne bi bili sposobni razumeti sebe in drugih, ki uporabljajo še te vzorce. Zato mislim, da vzorce ne sesuvamo, ampak iz njih izstopimo, še vedno pa ostanejo v nas kot spomin. Torej, je tisto očitanje meni, da sesuvam egote (vzorce) ... je bil tudi nek vzorec, nekaj povzetega, ni bilo pa v resnici poiskano v tistem, ki je to trdil. :) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 26.11.2002 at 23:07:46 sesuvanje egota sm že zdavni preimenoval v transformiranje to da so vsi odgovori v nas je pa bolj tko da v našem središču, tam kjer je sidrišče duše da tam obstaja povezava, ki nas potencialno popelje do vseh odgovorov, če jih le znamo zastavit ... bi reku ... vsi odgovori, ki jih že imamo ozaveščene so vedenje, do teh odgovorov prideš vedno, jih veš ... do drugih - vseh ostalih imaš ravno tako dostop ... ampak ... brez ega ... ego energija / vibracija tja ne more ... ego ne more do teh odgovorov ... ego u bistvu preprečuje dostop do teh odgovorov ... do odgovora ne moremo ker bi lahko reku da vzorec vibracijo spet zniža na egotovo vibracijo in tam se zaciklaš ko se sprašuješ - odgovor pride ampak vzorec ti ga preprečuje 'zvedet' ... tko da odgovori so v nas ... nas kot celem bitju, vključno z dušo ampak oklep ega nam preprečuje njih spoznanje - odgovori so direkt klele ... samo vidmo jih ne ... ponavadi itak ne sprašujemo pravih vprašanj ... tko da ... u bistvu maš prov ... ko ni ega ni niti odgovorov več ... niti ni zavesti kot bi osho vedu povedat ... je zavedanje (al glih okol) skratka ni več niti objekta niti subjekta ... to je za nas nepredstavljiva vibracija ... enost ... ki pa seveda še ni ENOST ... pa bo enost zaenkrat kr u redu cilj ... tja ego ne more, ravno tako kot ne telo ... v taki fizični obliki kot je tukaj in sedaj ... tko da tud ... ne da sesuvaš egote ... dražiš jih takrat ko so najbolj razdražljivi, takrat ko imajo majhno energijo - ko nimajo ne moči ne energije - takrat jih zdraviš - ne zdraviš - sesuvaš - ammak človeku ne daš svoje energije da bi zmogel preko svojega vzorca, na katerega si pokazal ti in si dolžan pomagati pri njega odpravljanju, s svojo energijo, pozornostjo, znanjem, modrostjo ... tisto revščino ki jo premoreš ... pa to ne gre samo tebi robi ... vsem nam ... mogoče nism tolk zlo razumljivo napisu ... gre se za vsa namerna ogledala ki si jih postavljamo tukaj po tem forumu, nekatera so tudi nenamerna nč ne rečem ... ampak ponavadi pozabimo na tisto mesto dati nekaj svoje pozornosti ... ja razlika je v 'pomoči' skozi enost ali skozi dvojnost in razlika je tudi v tem, ali človek prosi za pomoč ali ne. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Robi on 30.11.2002 at 11:09:52 Quote:
Uf, pa še kako se ozira na drugega. Pravzaprav je to najbolj pogost problem posameznika. Saj ego je, kot neka družbena zavest. Prepričanja, ki so nam jih vcepili drugi. Ljudje, ki imajo kakršnekoli težave, imajo težave s tem, da ne morejo preko tega. Skrbi jih, kaj bodo drugi rekli (ego), Ne smem nečesa narediti, saj to ni prav (ego)........ Lahko rečem, da se ego ne ozira na MENE. Na moje bistvo in čustva. Zato pa pride do borbe. Saj ego ne pozna mene. Torej, kako se lahko ozira na mene ??? Če je ego, kot nek program, si ga mora vsak sam, s svojo inteligenco modifayati. Saj se strojna oprema razlikuje. :) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 07.12.2002 at 14:30:35 MEDITACIJA: UMETNOST EKSTAZE sedem teles: http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=knjige_filmi;action=display;num=1035729640;start=0#5 avtosugestija http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=samozdravljenje;action=display;num=1038477025;start=135#139 aryan povezano z avtosugestija temo: http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1039437559;start=11#11 slika aparent selfa in real selfa ... beta http://www.gape.org/gapes/ego/ |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 23.12.2002 at 11:36:47 the tree of life http://www.kundalini-tantra.com/atree.html http://www.kundalini-tantra.com/paths1.html Figure TreeofLifePic shows the Tree of Life with its' ten sephiroth, each representing a portion of the human brain. Please note that the tenth Sephiroth, Kether, actually represents the beginning of the next level of attainment and is not directly associated with the earthly sphere either physically or spiritually. The influence from the highest level, Kether, brings joy and influences our lives so that we may attempt to reach this highest of levels and move to the next level of our godhood. That is the ultimate goal of all paths of attainment and is what this is all about. Within that ultimate goal are many steps to be taken. Unless those steps are taken it is as difficult to attain the highest rewards offered to our budding godhood as it is to pass a camel through the Eye of the Needle. With the focus on many small steps to attain to the highest portion of the wonders available to us, we may well climb to the top. It is difficult but not impossible to reach the top in one or two big jumps. Some do but it is extremely rare and your chances of winning a State Lottery are many times better than reaching the top of the spiritual heap in a few easy jumps. The preliminary description of the paths of the Tree of Life given here are the barest of beginnings toward these small steps. Each Sephiroth, here numbered from one to ten, is connected by one or more paths to each other. These paths each are numbered from 0 to 21, are named and associated with a special tarot card and astrological sign. With this in mind, lets examine a few more paths. The path from Hod (Mercury), to Tiphareth (Sun), transforms Rational mind (Mercury), to Enlightened mind (Sun). This path is ruled by Saturn, the bringer of rules and detailed agreement, in other words, patterns. Capricorn is associated with this path and Capricorn is described as particular about small details. Again, the idea of patterns. If we think further about what it would take to enlighten the rational mind, it would become obvious that patterns are the requirement. The rational mathematician or other scientist needs an orderly set of numbers or patterns to say "aha" or "eureka" and be enlightened in the outcome. The rational mind always requests patterns for enlightenment. Therefore, if we want the rational mind to "connect" with the enlightened mind directly, we must give it the correct patterns to work with. Thus, the path from Hod to Tiphareth can be labeled "patterns, patterns, patterns." The path from Hod (rational mind) to Geburrah (control of body functions) is based on meditation. It is said of this path that the mind must be stilled for the Mars aspect of Geburrah to operate. Geburrah as Mars represents an ability to actively change from one state to another. Thus, by contacting the brain circuit represented by Geburrah (Mars) we can alter our physical state of being from illness to health, change our blood pressure, control our heart rate, cure disease, etc. It is easy to understand that our rational mind (Hod/Mercury) won't do those things. The rational mind is too consumed with the details of functioning in the world and cannot directly reach the control centers. We can, however, decide consciously to, for example, control our blood pressure or our body temperature. These conscious decisions are made from the third brain circuit, the rational mind, or Hod on the Tree of Life. The ability to use your mind to get desired results cannot be less than a gift from God. How these descriptions came into existence thousands of years ago is far beyond my ability to explain. I accept the Tree of Life with the gifts bestowed through knowledge of its' information and suspend judgment on the impossibility of it being here at all. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 25.12.2002 at 20:03:39 sirij res zna povedat reči: http://www.astrologija.org/forum/index.php?s=83555c9d9ee048afd3db9a29e71be464&act=Print&client=printer&f=8&t=1202 ..disk..IzvorDusSirij.htm Najprej bi rad opozoril, da to kar pišem ni resnica, ampak samo odsev resnice (vsaj zame), ki je obarvan z mojimi predtavami in nato še z vašimi, ko to berete. Resnico lahko spoznate le sami, z intuicijo. Z besedami se resnice ne da opisati. Duša je neumrljivi del cloveka, je vir njegove zavesti, vir življenja. Clovek kot predstavnik 4. kraljestva je sticišce duha in materije in duša predstavlja duha. Vendar pa je tudi sama duša le posrednik božanske volje, modrosti in inteligence, ki prihaja od monade - iskre boga. Naš kozmos - kozmicni fizis (najnižja od sedmih kozmicnih ravni) je sestavljen iz sedmih ravni, od katerih je najvišja za naše pojme popoln duh, najnižja pa pa popolna materija. Ta prva raven se imenuje Adi. Na drugi ravni, Anupadaki, biva monada. Duša biva na 3., 4., in 5. ravni. Na tretji, ki se imenuje atmicna raven, je duhovna volja, ki je odsev božaske volje monade. Na cetrti budijski ravni je ljubezen duše, ki je odsev monadine (božanske) modrosti (s te ravni izvira prava intuicija - vedenje brez razmišljanja in navdih za vse, kar se ljudje "domislimo". Peta raven je mentalna raven, ki se deli na dva dela, na višji mental in nižji mental. Višji mental zajema tri višje podravni mentalne ravni in na najvišji je manas, ki je odsev monadine božanske inteligence. Na 3. podravni mentala, ki je najnižja raven nemanifestiranega - duha, je kavzalno telo duše, ki je videti kot lotusov cvet z biserom v sredini. V tem kavzalnem telesu, ki je pac iz mentalne substance, se hranijo vse naše izkušnje iz prejšnjih inkarnacij. Kavzalno telo - lotus - ima 9 cvetnih listicev, po tri v vsakem ovoju. Na zacetku je kavzalno telo pusto in zaprt cvet, bolj ko pa je duša razvita, bolj se cvet razpira. Vsak listic ima prav poseben pomen, o katerem zdaj ne bi, in po tem, koliko listicev je odprtih in kliko svetlobe seva, re meri razvojna stopnja posameznika. V bistvu ima clovek tri jaze. Najvišji jaz ali sebstvo je v monadi - to je božanski clovek - to smo res pravi mi - iskra boga. Ta iskra se odseva nižje v duši, ki smo zato tudi mi. Duša je naš višji jaz, ki se ga zacnemo zavedati nekje pri drugem posvecenju. Ljudje na tej stopnji se pogosto dojemajo razcepljeno med dva jaza. Ob cetrtem posvecenju duša, kot posrednik ni vec potrebna. Takrat se dvigne kundalini - energija materije, in izžge kavzalno telo. Clovek postane eno z monado. Imamo pa še nižji - osebnostni jaz. Jaz vedno nastane na stiku zavesti in materije. Ko zavest duše proseva z višjega na nižji mental, pride tam v stik z nižjo mentalno materijo. To je tako, kot bi z baterijo posvetil v meglo ali v dim. V cistem zraku svetlobe ne vidiš, ce gledaš s strani ali izza svetilke. Ce pa posvetiš v meglo, zagledaš svetlobni krog. Naš jaz je v bistvu zavedanje, ki nastane na stiku materije in zavesti. Osebnost je clovek v izraznem svetu, ki ima 4 telesa, skozi katera se odsevajo tri kvalitete duše (v smislu principov). Imamo mentalno telo na nižji mentalni ravni, ki je odsev dušinega manasa. Imamo astralno telo, ki je sedež duševnosti, ta pa je odsev dušinih budijskih lastnosti (intuicija, ljubezen). Imamo etersko in fizicno telo, ki sta v bistvu oba fizicna, ker so eter samo štiri najvišje podravni fizicne ravni. To je odsev (v smuslu principa) dušine duhovne volje, ki se na fizicni ravni odraž kot nagoni fizicnega telesa. Vsi ljudje imamo popolno zavest na fizicni ravni, redki med nami pa imajo tudi nadzor na fizicni ravni. To so tisti, ki so dosegli prvo posvecenje in ki so sposobni nadzirati elementale fizicnega telesa. To pomeni, da jih v življenju ne vodijo nagoni (potreba po spanju, hrani seksu, ležernosti, lenoba, pretirana aktivnost...) ampak oni vsaj do neke mere nadzirajo nagone. Skoraj vsi imamo omejeno zavest na astralni ravni, nadzor na tej ravni pa samo tisti, ki imajo drugo posvecenje. Mentalne ravni smo se šele dobro zaceli zavedati. Zavedamo se samo nijnižje podravni nižjega mentala, kijer je doma naš vele cenjeni intelekt. Nadzor nad nižjim mentalom imajo samoposvecenci tretje stopnje. Ti se tudi že dobro zavedajo svoje duše. Prvi stik z dušo clovek naveže malo pred prvim posvecenjem, prej pa ne. Tudi s hipnozo ne. Vse ostalo je astralna domišljija in kanaliziranje z astrala, ki je iluzorna raven in se z njo nikakor nima smisla ukvarjati. Se pravi, duša, duševnost, duh, zavest in zavedanje so razlicne, a povezane stvari. Fizicno telo je z dušo povezano z dvema energijskima nitma. Po eni tece zavest in je pripeta v sredino glave, po drugi pa življenjska sila, ta je pripeta v srce. Življenjska nit se pripne v telo dojencka, ko temu prvic utripne srce in ostane pripeta do telesne smrti. Smrt nastopi ravno zaradi prekinitve te povezave. Zavestna nit se pa trdno zasidra šele med drugim in trtetjim letom starosti. Do takrat je pa malo pripeta malo odpeta, starejši kot je otrok, bolj je zasidrana. Se pa odne vedno, ko zaspimo. Takrat se nam zavest dvigne preko etra na astral (sanje) in nato na mental, vse do višjega mentala (trden spanec). Ko trdno spimo smo eno z dušo. Pri tretjem posvecenju se razvije neprekinjeno zavedanje, takrat se zavedamo prehoda iz bodnosti v spanec in tudi v smrt. Ce se pri starem cloveku zavestna nit pocasi natrga, postane clovek senilen in dementen. Ce se povsem pretrga je v komi in vegetira, lahko. Takrat ostane telo prazna lupina, ki lahko živi sama, samo zavesti ni v njej. Telo ima svoje mehanizme za življenje in nadzor svojih funkcij. Nekateri ljudje v komi preživijo vec let. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 11.01.2003 at 14:10:12 Earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence and perverted ego these are the eight components of My external energy. (5 prvih elementov so sestavni deli nasega grobega telesa, drugi trije pa nasega subtilnega telesa, vsi skupi pa so external energy, oz. zmotna poistovecanja) O Mighty-armed Arjuna, besides My external energy (Apara Prakruti), I have another energy known as Jiva-potency which is superior to My external energy. All living entities come of this superior potency. (to je dusa, oz. nas pravi jaz) All the sentient and insentient worlds emanate from these two potencies of Mine. Hence, I am the root cause of creation and destruction of this world. (materija (telo, um) in spirit (dusa) sestavljajo ta ves kreiran svet) http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1041246058;start=164#164 po razumu se vedejo tisti, ki ga imajo za univerzalno zanesljiv instrument zaznave. ker pa je razum pogojen z znanjem ki ga pridobi skoz nepopolna cutila in kasnejse eksperimentiranje in ugotavljanje logike raznih delovanj, postane kaj kmalu "utrujen" ko ugotovi, da ne bo mogu vsega spravt v eksperiment za casa njegovga zivljenja. Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor these kings of men. Never will there be a time hereafter when any of us shall cease to be. The soul has neither birth nor death. He was present in the past, he is present now and he will remain in the future. He is unborn, eternal, undying, ancient but ever fresh. He is not destroyed even if the body is killed. ************************** un tm u dušah trdi da se duše rojevajo *********************************** ??? The soul cannot be cleft, he cannot be burnt, he can not be wetted, and he cannot be dried. He is eternal, all pervading, unchangeable, immovable and ever lasting. But there is another nature, which is eternal and superior to material nature. It is so excellent and eternal that when all in this world is destroyed, it remains as it is. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Kali on 11.01.2003 at 15:02:26 mater, tole je iz ved al kaj? ker jst čist isto glih berem (to, da se duše ne da zmočit, zažgati...), v knjigi "Življenje izvira iz življenja" napisano po tonskih posnetkih A.C. Bhaktivendanta Swami Prabhupada. Sem se tole ravno včeraj spravla brat, čeprav mam knjigo že nekaj let na polici (kupili od Hare Krishna ;) ), berem pa zato, ker me tole zanima kaj in čemu sledi naš dragi Aryan, tko, da se moram mal izobrazit tut glede tega, da se bomo lahko kaj pogovarjal. :) ;) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 12.01.2003 at 02:36:35 gape wrote on 11.06.2002 at 18:08:25:
stiže razjasnitev gape wrote on 12.01.2003 at 13:52:01:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by aryan on 12.01.2003 at 12:04:55 Petra. wrote on 11.01.2003 at 15:02:26:
me veseli da beres knjige AC Bhaktivedanta Swami-ja. res ti bo bl jasn cemu jaz sledim, ampak ce bos hotla bolj podrobno zvedt pol preber njegovo izdajo "bhagavad-gita as it is" al pa v slovenscini "kakrsna je". ceprav jaz nikol nisem bil formalno povezan z njegovo institucijo ISCKON in Hare Krishna gibanjem berem in sledim njegovim knjigam. on je "pravi" sledilec Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu-ja in mu dajem moje spostovanje. ce bos pa hotla se kej bl podrobno zvedt al pa ti kej ne bo jasn, loh pa zmeri posles int. msg al pa kakorkol vprasas na forumu. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 13.01.2003 at 10:21:22 gape wrote on 12.01.2003 at 17:38:55:
********** en textič ********** ... zakaj porodi samo še mnogo več zakajev. zakaj lahko omejeno razumeš samo v okviru maye ... na meji maye so zakaji preveč zakomplicirani, bi lahko reku nedoumljivi umu. kdo in kaj ni omejen na mayo samo izraža se v mayi ... pač najbolj vidno. drugega kot mayo pa ego itak ne vidi. nad mayo lahko vidim samo JAZ. če pa hočem JAZ videti, pa moram odvzeti kontrolo egu vsaj na šestem nivoju. tam JAZ vidim ... v mayi JAZ sicer ravno tako vidim, ampak na MOJO veliko žalost moram gledati sliko ki je sfiltrirana preko ega. ego je vmesnik do gledanja v mayi ... edino če mu odvzamem kontrolo nad videnjem. tole *poslanstvo maš osebno in če rečemo temu vesoljno. e poglejmo zdej, osebno poslanstvo je to kaj delaš ti in kaj se učiš ti, vesoljno (univerzalno) pa to kaj se učimo skupaj. * recimo. je res za zemljana ... to je res za avtohtono dušo ... avtohtona duša, ki je na tem nivoju razvoja (evolucije če hočeš), verjetno res deluje nekako tako. vpogled v te reči (jasno videnje) dobiš samo z odvzemanjem kontrole razumu nad občutki (bolje čutili)(pri tem ti ponavadi stojijo ob strani vodniki). ego tuki puši, drugi ljudje (vsi ostali) pa pridobivajo eno izkušnjo nečesa, ki je, pa je ne vidijo. skratka pridobiva(jo) ljudje, skupaj s tabo, saj si tudi ti človek. tud jest sm. če pa to zadržim zase, potem drugi pridobivajo malo manj. ampak tega se itak ne da skrivat. vsaj dolgo ne. izkušnje. izkušnje od vseh ... osebnemu poslanstvu, kot dobro veš, jest rečem naloga. MOJA naloga tuki dol. za to, da to nalogo tuki dol izpolnim, rabim telo. brez telesa pač ni delovanja. zaradi prejšnjega delovanja je moje telo pogojeno. dobim tako kot si ga zaslužim. izberem si glavno delovanje in grem delovat. glede na okoliščine kakršne bodo vladale, si izberem detajle, kolk bom vzel energije s sabo, katerih stvari se bom prej spomnu, kakšen bo triger za odklep določenih informacij ... triger maitreya je u bistvu kreator. tko ga vsaj ljudje s svojo skupno zavestjo dojemamo. on je šef šefov in je posledično odgovoren za nastalo situacijo - slabo zlivanje avtohtonih in neavtohtonih bitij. res je tudi da pred maitreyo obstaja še en kreator, tisti, ki je ustvaril vsaj Zemljo in verjetno vesolje ... pot tja iščemo ... in da ne izgubljamo časa, se je hierarhija odločla to pot najt tuki (drugo nam itak ni preostal). na tanajbolj zajebanem plejsu, v najboljši učilnici ... pot pa je namera in ta je ljubezen. vse kar iščemo je način kako se priklopiti na najskupnejšo namero od vseh - ljubezen. kako delovati v ljubezni in kako čimvečim dušam to znanje predati. tisti ki ste brali freedom of choiceverjetno veste o čem govorim ... drugih pa vas verejto niti ne zanima (tisti se zamislite ... vsaj malo). kdor je prebral tanovo mahalo, mu je tud precej jasneje o čem govorim, kdor si je prebral ostale planet alerte, tistemu je jasno brez da me prebere. ... ja ... to je vesoljno poslanstvo ... vse ljudi premaknt v ljubezen ... na zemlji smo se s tem igral tolk časa, da je zemlja kot duša in kot bitje v fizičnem sama prešla v ljubezen. in ljudje bodo morali ravno tako ... ampak ... sej vemo ... to je šele 4/7 poti. ampak od tuki naprej je veliko lažje ... v prijetnem okolju. v neprijetenem pač ne tolk zlo. dol te ne morjo več zvlečt, lahko pa namesto da bi deloval v zgornjih nivojih, se prepuščaš delovanju v spodnjih nivojih, tam pa so še vedno nekateri močni zapisi - vzorci, ki jih kontrolira ego. in ko si v nižjih nivojih te samo tja vleče, ker imaš to še za spucat - logično. in pucaš ... skoz ... stvari pa se manifestirajo hitro ... prehitro, saj si previsoko z zavestjo in prenizko z delovanjem. ja ... osebnost rabimo pa zato da sploh lahko delujemo ... deluje lahko samo osebnost ... mislm od tega konglomerata človeka, obstaja ene par 'fizično-duhovnih' aspektov - osebnost, ego, um, razum, mental, astral, tud čustva in tudi čutila bi se upu dat sm notr. pol pa samo še fizično telo ostane. zdej ... dejstvo je, da JAZ nisem nič od tega. vse to, JAZ samo uporabljam za delovanje. telo in vse ostalo SEM dobil samo na uporabo ... na posodo. od matere Zemlje. za omejen čas. čas je omejen s trajanjem telesa. z življenjsko dobo. od očeta BOGA pa sm dubu OBSTOJ. primer sočutje osebno poslanstvo ne more bit samo sočutje. vsako življenje zase ima potencial samorealizacije. če se duša odloči da v tem življenju obstajajo pa možnosti za razsvetljenje, si življenje pripravi tako, da je potencialno možno tudi to. v takem primeru se duša lahko odloči, da bo dala v to svoje življenje 99% svoje energije (kar je menda redkost in mi smrdi na gembl, saj še se oredvidevanja ne izponijo ... pušim energijo, ki sem jo že nabral). in seveda tako življenje, je prisluženo ali z idealnim delovanjem (a la Jezus) ali pa z zunanjimi okoliščinami. mi vemo, da so okoliščine tukaj in zdaj drugačne, kot pa so bile v prejšnjih stoletjih. 2000 let nazaj so ble kr fajn okoliščine. ampak te okoliščine zdej ... te so pa enkratne ... Zemlja gre samo enkrat v četrti nivo. (in ta prehod nameravamo izkoristit za polet) in če drugače ne gre, če bi se slučajno primerilo, da bi človeštvo s svojo idijotsko skupno zavestjo se še kr ne hotlo premaknt naprej, v četrti nivo ... sej veste kako pravjo ... za napredovanje ... ukloni sve nepotrebno!!! mala malca! Lekcija gosi: http://members.aol.com/CuttyhunkRose/geese.html ko si enkrat z goskami v jati, v svoji popolnosti, ega ni več. mislm, kot sm zgori nazorno opisu, lahko da je, pa nima kontrole nad delovanjem (letenjem). ker on ima pod kontrolo nekatere vzorce (značajske, obnašanje ...) dočim telo, to je pod MOJO kontrolo. in ego ene od 'gosi' (ko bomo že letel) ne bo reku da ne more, če bo kdo to reku, bo to reklo telo (posrednik bo pa verejtno verjetno ego), telo katero je dotična gos pač preslabo prpravla, preden se je odločila za polet. ego bi mogoče pač mal dregu vsake tolko ... dočim v letu itak nima kej pametvat (on zihr ne ve boljš od celotne skupine in njene skupne zavesti == bog). ker ko pride na vrsto ta gos vodi let in ko se utrudi se umakne. nobenga prepričevanja nikjer, nobenih iger moči. telo se je utrudlo, gos konča svoje vodstvo. ni kle zakaja ... tko je ... kdo in kaj. ni prov nobena štala. razen v glavah ljudi ... tm je štala ... tm ni tolk velik lepih misli ... ampak ... je treba jih prepoznat in transformirat ... je pa težko ... še jest sm bil prov fejst u pizdi, sm mislu že kr mal melanholije zganjat. pa sm se premislu. *če ne bi dojemal iz tega kar je naše poslanstvo in kar se učimo bi zihr rekl ego nas ovira, a hkrati nam ravno on daje priložnost da uresničimo svoje poslanstvo ane? čista konfuzija na ven in na not. * ni nobena konfuzija ego nas ovira na naši nalogi. osebnost je tista ki nam omogoče delovanje. v mayi. priložnost nam da bog. mi pa jo izkoristimo tako ali drugače. to je dejstvo. noben faking ego nam ne da priložnosti. ego zna samo priložnost izrabit za svoje sebične namene in te prepričvat, da je to boljš narest tko in tko, čeprov TI veš da bi blo bolje tko in tko. blo bi za malenkost slabš zate sicer, bi blo pa za vse nas tolk boljš (posledično seveda tud zate, saj si del vseh). poslušanje občutkov (brez pomot), vodnikov, božjega vodstva je fajn ... kajti ego to sliši, in takoj začne filtrirat, da to sicer narest, ampak tko in tko in tko in tko in tko, s temi pravili, tistimi elaborati, unimi poslanstvi ... in je polna glava tega ... se reče ... ne dobi gos uvida da mora prevzet prvo, vodilno mesto, gos je dobila uvid, in je šla z nami. na gos pride vrsta, vrsta da dela več kot drugi, da pravzaprav SLUŽI drugim. in tko uspemo. če slediš temu kar ti ego razlaga, mora bit res prava umetnost v načinu predstavljanja stvari drugim. sploh če ti drugi vedo da temu ni tako, da izkušnja dosedanja jih sicer uči, da je temu tako, ljudje z več izkušnjami, pa jim ves čas potrpežljivo govorijo, da temu ni tako. sčasoma se začno zavedat, da je izkušnja pod četrtim nivojem bolj malo vredna, kar se tiče Resnice. in se premaknemo naprej ... še drug primer ego nam ni pomagal ... če temu fakinemu sranju v katerem se moramo učit lahko rečem pomoč, so pomagal drugi ... men bi blo dabest da bi vi to čistl zase pri sebi in mene ne vpletal v to. ker pa sem del vas to ne gre tako. skupno zavest ustvarjam tudi JAZ. zato sm vpleten. zato nimam miru. lahko bi se odpletu če bi hotu. pa mi je to zlo težko ... težka naloga. tukaj in zdaj ... v 10 letih ... pomoje noben blem. vodniki te ne zjahajo v nulo ... če gledaš da si ti ego, pol pač te, telo pri tem tud včasih malce potrpi ... ampak JAZ SEM dobi kontrolo v tem procesu. in telo ne bo več trpelo zaradi tega. ever. res ne moreš po vsem tem času še vedno verejt da so dogodki in njih rezultati predvidljivi. *Vodniki in naše duhovno jedro NISO isto... za mene. * tud niso ... so čist druge vrste duša kot smo mi. o ciljih sm že pisu ... kar se mene tiče šteje samo glavni cilj. podcilji so pač samo pot do tja. in glavni cilj, izredno dobro predefinira podcilje. da se zmotit ... ampak težko. poslanstvo je ljubezen in ta je namen in to je namera ... BOŽJA ego je definitvno pametnejši od MENE ... MENI pamet sploh ni kvaliteta ... to je kvaliteta za mene, mene kot človeka, kot celoto. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 24.01.2003 at 23:08:37 to love god wrote on 22.01.2003 at 13:11:21:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 09.02.2003 at 09:50:08 ixtlan wrote on 08.02.2003 at 14:31:46:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 09.02.2003 at 22:01:36 am wrote on 09.02.2003 at 21:54:10:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 09.02.2003 at 22:04:20 ixtlan wrote on 14.01.2003 at 22:25:04:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 03.03.2003 at 00:02:46 gape wrote on 05.08.2003 at 21:00:42:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 06.03.2003 at 20:25:04 gape wrote on 06.03.2003 at 20:20:46:
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http://www.gape.org/gapes/prispevki/files/zmaj.htm SIMBOLIKA ZMAJA Namen tega besedila ni opisovati zmaje v navadnem pomenu te besede, temveč simbolno sprožiti v vas, bralcih, miselne povezave, ki bodo porodile t. i. 'aha doživetje', ter vas pripeljale do globljega, nadrazumskega dojemanja vsebine prispevka. Za simbol je zelo pomembno, da se smisel simbola in mita spreminja glede na sposobnost dojemanja. To je tudi razlog, da so simboli večplastni in večpomenski. Ne obstaja torej »pravilna« ali »nepravilna« razlaga nekega simbola, temveč so samo različne ravni in različne globine razlag. Vsaka razlaga je na neki ravni pravilna, toda popolna razlaga ni mogoča. Popolno dojetje simbola je dejanje, ki daleč presega razum in kakršno koli razlago ter prehaja na področje neizrekljivega.* Zmaj nam torej pripoveduje gnostično zgodbo o tem, da so se bogovi spustili v materijo, v svet časa in prostora, vzroka in posledice in se tu zaigrali. Igra jih je tako pritegnila, da so sčasoma pozabili, kdo v resnici so. Ko jim je zavest o lastni božanski naravi potemnela, so ostali ujeti v iluzijo, pozabili so, da so bogovi. ZMAJ KOT VARUH ZAKLADA Bistven vidik simbolike zmaja, ki je posebno pomemben iz ezoteričnega zornega kota, je, da je v številnih mitih zmaj varuh zaklada. Da bi prišel do zaklada, se mora junak bojevati z zmajem in ga po hudem boju tudi premagati, ali pa mora pred zmajem rešiti devico. Ta zgodba ima velik psihološki pomen, in na to je zelo dobro opozoril Jung. Junak je v resnici zavestni jaz, ki se bojuje s senco, z instinktivnim, nezavednim delom sebe, da bi ga ozavestil in skozi proces individuacije, kakor ga imenuje Jung, včlenil v zavestni organizem. V tem pomenu je torej zmaga nad zmajem ozaveščanje sence, dvig zavesti in razširitev zavestnega jaza. S popolno prebuditvijo energije kundalini pride na individualni ravni do dokončnega razsvetljenja, do samouresničitve. Poti pravzaprav ni. Pot ni nič drugega kot ozaveščanje resničnosti, takšne, kakršna je že zdaj, v tem trenutku. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 17.03.2003 at 14:15:59 Gru Gru wrote on 18.02.2003 at 20:07:29:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 10.04.2003 at 19:12:01 wrote on 08.04.2003 at 20:46:48:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 21.04.2003 at 10:47:18 a_hero wrote on 13.07.2003 at 12:23:02:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 27.04.2003 at 12:41:14 ego by stojči Osvobajanje od ega http://www.gape.org/geeklog/public_html/article.php?story=20030420140947961 Osvobajanje od ega ll http://www.gape.org/geeklog/public_html/article.php?story=20030422221614865#comments Q 'Ne diraj lava, dok spava'. Torej uspavaš ga lahko. Svojega negativca pustiš tam kjer je, lepo nekje v podzavesti, naj tam mirno spi in čim manj drezaj vanj, ker te zna ta lev ob pretiranem vsakodnevnem draženju, na koncu prav lepo rakasto požreti. Q tuki bi se kr strinju s tabo ... tud jest verjamem, da je to pravi pristop. nastane pa minimalen problem, če hočeš furat to tehniko. osama. tukaj kjer živimo, vedno nekdo pride od nekje, ki ti ta ego, ki si ga uspaval, da si nabereš novih moči, zbudi. spet in spet. ta tehnika je tukaj in zdaj kr zakomplicirana ... mislm ... kot vedno ... najt srednjo pot, med spanjem ega in njega čiščenjem. delovanje skozenj, pač ni opcija. delovanje skozenj se uporablja samo za njega transformiranje. drugega nič. kot je reku stojči, bolje da nedeluješ in spoznavaš sebstvo, kot pa da deluješ skozi ego. če deluješ deluj mimo ega! |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Harry on 30.04.2003 at 21:55:35 Zanimivo. O Učitelju in Učencu Ko se Učitelj začrta na pojavnem nivoju je On prva oseba v kateri bomo prepoznali samega sebe, resničnega, ne projiciranega. Z resničnim spoznavanjem ene osebe hitro spoznamo tudi ostale. Učitelj pride pred samim koncem potovanja, toda to je hkrati tudi najtežji del poti. Posnemajoč učenje, mnogi pričakujejo od Učitelja rešilne mantre, tehnike in navodila, kako naj se ravnajo na poti. To ni bistvo učenja. Ni tehnike, ni napotkov; vse to so zablode. Učenje se dogaja z dotikom, s prenosom milosti. Tehnik se ne uči, one se odkrivajo in prepoznavajo. Učitelj je Bog v človeku, On navdihuje, spodbuja, budi, dviga v nas potenciale in ne išče niti daje svojih, da se nanje obešamo. Z učenjem se ne ustvarja odvisnosti, temveč se zdravi.Vse dokler spimo, ne vemo kdo nas budi, a ko se prebudimo je prva oseba, ki jo zagledamo, Učitelj. http://www.gape.org/geeklog/public_html/article.php?story=20030428132352500 |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Harry on 02.05.2003 at 10:25:39 Osvobajanje od EGA part III. by Stojči »Ah si rečeš, res je da je moja temna koliba ega, znotraj nekega drugega prostora, ampak tu ni zame prav nobenega izhoda.« In iz tvoje notranjosti pride nov namig. Notranja vrata in notranja kljuka. Kako si boš predstavljal ta vrata, če niti ne veš, kako izgledajo, kako si boš predstavljal to kljuko, če je nikoli nisi niti prijel in sploh ne veš, kaj bi sicer z njo počel? In iz tvoje notranjosti pride nov namig. Prepusti se intuiciji, zaupaj vase in stori to, kar boš takrat začutil. http://www.gape.org/geeklog/public_html/article.php?story=20030430154825614 |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 02.05.2003 at 20:53:57 nadaljevanje: Greš spet lepo okoli teh okroglih notranjih sten in spregledaš kljuko. Zdaj sicer veš, da je tu nekje izhod in da je samo še vprašanje časa, kdaj ti bo končno to uspelo. In ti res. Uspelo ti je najti to kljuko in ne samo to, s svojo ponižnostjo sam pred sabo, ti jo je uspelo celo potisniti navzdol in ne samo to, na vrhu vsega, ti je uspelo poriniti ta vrta svoje nevednosti celo navzven. Lahko si čestitaš. Prišel si v nov prostor. Najprej te od svetlobe zabolijo oči, a se hitro navadiš in z velikim navdušenjem raziskuješ nov prostor. Tu je toliko zanimivih stvari, da bi najraje kar za zmeraj ostal tam, a se vprašaš, kaj pa če je tudi iz tega prostora kak izhod v kak nov prostor, kjer je še bolj svetlo in kjer je še več bolj zanimivih stvari? Zdaj že obvladaš sceno in se kadarkoli hočeš, vrneš nazaj v svojo malo kolibo ega, vrata v večji prostor pa odpiraš že na pamet. Tudi v drugem prostoru po daljšem času najdeš okroglo steno in zdaj že veš, da moraš samo lepo okrog ob steni in boš našel naslednja vrata spoznanja. Najdeš jih. lepo so se ti prehodi zapisali ... res lepo. hvala mi je pa smešno ... v začetku sm meu filing da greš vase ... prehodi pa so zunaj, vedno bolj zunaj. glej če mal skrajšam: spoznanje vsi ljudje iščejo zunaj sebe, ON pa je tu samo zato, da jim pokaže, da se ta nahaja znotraj vsakega človeškega srca. ZUNI - ZNOTRI ??? |
Title: Re: EGO Post by stojchi on 03.05.2003 at 11:25:34 dobro si to napisal gape. :) To je tudi bistvena razlika med religijo in učenjem mojstra. :) Religija te uči sprejemati boga od zunaj, >:( mojster pa ti pokaže, da se iz sebe razvijaš, ::) v sebe se vračaš. :) Medicina te uči, da se zdraviš od zunaj navznoter, ??? mojster pa, da se zdraviš iz sebe navzven. :) na pozitivkah imaš še en odgovor, :) zdaj pa se moram izlogirat lp :) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 06.05.2003 at 10:02:46 Ziby2 wrote on 06.05.2003 at 02:37:30:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by stojchi on 06.05.2003 at 10:52:21 takole bi rekel z že tisočkrat povedanimi besedami :): "Sem POT in sem RESNICA, sem MIR, KI NI OD TEGA SVETA, ampak šele tedaj, ko to zares začutim, v globini, svojega SRCA ali kakor sem že davno v eni od svojih pesmi zapisal: BOŽANSKO BITJE, NOTRANJE LUČI KDOR NE ZNA BITI NIČ, TA POSTANE KAJ, IN KDOR POSTANE KAJ, JE NAVADNA NULA, KER REVEŽ TA NE VE, DA TO KAR JE POSTAL, GA OMEJI OD TEGA, DA BI ZAČUTIL IN SPOZNAL, TO, KAR V RESNICI JE: BOŽANSKO BITJE, NOTRANJE LUČI. OD NIČ DO NULE, JE DOLGA POT ZMOT, PAPAGAJSKIH UČENJ, PROUČEVANJ, KRAJŠA PA JE POT NAZAJ, V TA NOTRANJI, SVETLI RAJ SPOZNANJ. MALO JIH JE, KI RAZUMEJO TO, IN ŠE MANJ, KI TO POT, ISKRENO POČNO. :) Stojan Svet ;) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by LittleStar on 06.05.2003 at 11:17:48 Hvala Stojchi, da lahko beremo tvoje pesmi. So mi navdih, me prebujajo, se spominjam... |
Title: Re: EGO Post by mind on 06.05.2003 at 11:26:06 Quote:
stojči, jaz sem torej navadna nula, ker ne znam biti NIČ ? kako pa postanem NIČ, da bom takšen kot ti in zakaj je dobro biti NIČ ? LP |
Title: Re: EGO Post by stojchi on 06.05.2003 at 13:48:04 :) hvala ti little star in odgovor tebi mind :) spomnim se enega razgovora z nekom, ki sem ga nenamenoma hudo sprovociral, ki mi je takrat zabrusil: " A ti sploh veš, kdo sem jaz!? A ti sploh veš s kom se pogovarjaš!? A ti boš meni govoril!? Kakšne šole si pa ti sploh končal!? Kolikor vem, si navaden gimnazijski maturant! Ti zame nimaš nobenega znanja!! itd,itd, gospod se je hudo razburil, jaz pa sem ostal miren in ravnodušen :) torej tvoj ali moj lažni ego ??? je ta nula >:(, ki se razburja ker misli da nekaj je, kar ni :) tvoj, ali moj nič pa je opisan v tejle moji zgodbi na pozitivkah :) http://www.gape.org/geeklog/public_html/article.php?story=20030311165035439 in dokler ne začutim to nekaj več ::), se lahko ob soočenju le razburjam ??? in zgolj naslanjam na svojo nulo :P |
Title: Re: EGO Post by mind on 06.05.2003 at 15:20:29 ok...sem prebral kdor ne zna biti NIČ je torej NULA. tale tvoja zgodba je pravzaprav prava miselna igra :) Kdo si ti? A: si ti mali ? ---- -- NE jaz sem VEČ B: si ti malo večji ? ----- NE jaz sem še VEČ C: si ti velik ? ----- NE jaz sem še VEČ D:si ti največji ? ------ NE jaz sem še VEČ E:si ti še večji od največjega ? ------ NE jaz sem še VEČ . . . . potem ti NISI NIČ ! ------ tako je, jaz SEM NIČ Ministri so potem začutili ta NIČ, in so ga priznali za kralja. Kolikor sem te razumel praviš, da je aktivnost oz. prisotnost lažnega ego-ta tista ki določa variacije med NIČ in NULO. Če lažni ego počiva oz. je mrtev si NIČ drugače pa si NULA. In ta NIČ (oz. odstranitev lažnega egota) je mogoča z Maharajijevim "samospoznanjem". Zdaj pa ključno vprašanje : Kako veš oziroma si prepričan, da ni ta NIČ le še en lažni ego ? In ni treba odgovarjat, da to veš zato, ker je feeling zelo, zelo prijeten. Namreč feeling (čutenje) je lahko zelo varljiv (pomisli npr. na droge). Občutek je res cool ampak dolgoročno je mogoče tud ta občutek obsojen na propad. Kaj ti torej daje takšno trdno prepričanje, se to ne bo zgodilo tudi s tvojim občutkom ? In tvoj trenutni feeling ne more bit zadosten odgovor. LP |
Title: Re: EGO Post by stojchi on 06.05.2003 at 17:31:12 Mind naj te pohvalim za prvi del tvojega odgovora :) in zlahka odgovorim zelo preprosto na drugega ;) TAKO KOT VSAK MOJ LAŽNI EGO IZHAJA IZ MOJE GLAVE. :P TAKO MOJA RESNICA, :) MOJA NOTRANJA IZPOLNITEV ::) MOJ MIR, 8) MOJA LJUBEZEN, :-* IZHAJA IZ MOJEGA SRCA. :) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 06.05.2003 at 17:46:24 mind wrote on 06.05.2003 at 15:20:29:
jest ga spoznam po miru ... ni občutka miru ... JE MIR |
Title: Re: EGO Post by mind on 06.05.2003 at 20:26:24 gape, se strinjam, ampak povdarit sem hotel (oz. zvedet) ali je ta mir, sreča...skratka to kar stojci opisuje kot notranjo izpoplnjenost...ali je prepričan da je to TO znano je, da je npr. psihopat lahko popolnoma miren, ko nekoga ubija...pa to še ne pomeni da je to TO.....dolgoročno mu to ziher ne bo prineslo miru želim v bistvu od stojčija zvedet ali je prepričan da je ta njegov mir drugačen od ostalih kratkotrajnih LP |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Samson on 06.05.2003 at 21:05:08 V discipliniranem človeku je EGO ubogljiv tiran, ki vedno znova ponagaja, čeprav je sicer oče slehernega pravega uspeha... In toliko je povedanega o egu, o tej zibelki dobrega in hudega. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by stojchi on 07.05.2003 at 23:55:24 lepe misli samson, posebej če so zrasle iz tebe :) in odgovor mindu :) Poglej ta poseben mir doživljam že pol svojega življenja. :) a se to nič ne pozna na mojih postih in člankih na pozitivkah? ;) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by mind on 08.05.2003 at 10:43:03 stojci...od mene želiš potriditev svojega miru ? sem nekje že napisal, da ti jaz VERJAMEM, da ti to res doživljaš, ker pač sklepam da nisi nek lažnivec in da si iskren.... jaz bi rad razumel ta tvoj mir, ampak ti se vedno nekako izogibas vprasanjam ki ti jih postavljam in me napotuješ na tvoje članke ali na Maharajijeve predstavitve v tej temi govorimo o Egu-.....in več ali manj vsi t.i. Guruji zagovarjajo "pokončanje" lažnega Ego-ta....le načini so si lahko tudi povsem različni mi je zelo žal ampak iz tvojih člankov in postov jaz ne vidim tega "pokončanja".....in ne bom zdaj iskal kje vse si pisal koliko ljudi bere tvoje pesmi, te občuduje, ipd... čeprav banalno ampak tvoj nemir sem med drugim začutil, ko si nekje omenil, da nobene živali ne bi mogel ubiti, komarja pa z lahkoto pokončaš :-/ LP |
Title: Re: EGO Post by aryan on 08.05.2003 at 10:57:34 sej stojchi je lepo nekje napisal.. da sele ko si pred "mojstrom" spoznas, da si slep. na podobn nacin, bo tud stojchi enkrat, ko bo prisel pred "pravega-mojstra" spoznal da bolj malo cuti. drgac sem pa tud jaz pri njemu ze opazil da se zna "lepo" (ceprav opazno) izogibat direktnim odgovorom na zastavljena vprasanja. ta indirektnost in "zamegljenost v skrivnost" s katero pridobiva svoj lazni ugled ponavad iskrene ljudi odbija. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by stojchi on 08.05.2003 at 21:26:48 dragi mind od nikogar ne pričakujem potrditve svojega miru, notranji mir čutiš, ali ga pa ne ane? ;D in dokler ga ti sam ne boš čutil, (in ti ga ne, ane?) ti nobene moje razlage, ne bodo prav nič pomagale ;D če si ti bolan, ali naj jaz zate jemljem zdravila, da boš ti zato bolj zdrav? glede ega pa takole: dokler ne čutiš notranje svetlobe ::), ti ne preostane nič drugega, kot samo naslanjanje na svoj lažni ego :P in ko enkrat z egom preganjaš ego, je kot bi z ognjem gasil hišo in s polivanjem z vodo preprečeval poplave ??? mnogo preprosteje je, namesto da mlatiš po svoji temi, da bi jo pregnal, raje prižgeš notranjo luč. dragi arian, zakaj nisem odgovoril na vsa tvoja vprašanja? na žalost so tvoja vprašanja včasih tako butasta, ali pa sem na njih že odgovoril prej, tebi pa se jih ni niti dalo prebrati, ali pa so sama v sebi tako konfuzna in nasprotujoča, da ti ob njih tudi tvoj bog ne bi mogel pomagati. To je opazil že marsikdo, na to te je opozoril tudi Ten-Nej najbolj debela pa ti je o tem, kaj bom jaz čutil in kaj ne ane? in tak, ki se izraža tako kot tule ti in ki se skriva za nekaki mi, se iz moje prakse običajno hudo izogiba soočenja in se že prej pokakca od strahu ;D |
Title: Re: EGO Post by mind on 08.05.2003 at 21:45:12 Quote:
eh stojči, jaz nisem nikjer in nikoli trdil, da sem razsvetljen ali kaj podobnega.... jaz priznam da imam napake, da sem bolan, da sem nevednež in nevem kaj še... praviš da je notranji mir tisto kar morem dosečt, hkrati pa praviš, da mi nobene tvoje razlage ne bodo pripeljale do tega mislim da razumem kaj hočeš povedat, čeprav nevem zakaj se potem toliko sklicuješ na svoje poste in članke in zakaj jih pišeš ne moreš jih namreč pisat zaradi sebe, saj si "razsvetljen", torej hočeš verjetno drugim kaj sporočit ampak če tvoja sporočila ne zmorejo prinest tega miru (kot sam praviš) potem mogoče nisi najbolj iskren če jogurt spremeni okus je še vedno jogurt lepo in mirno življenje še naprej ti želim |
Title: Re: EGO Post by aryan on 09.05.2003 at 08:48:57 stoychi wrote on 08.05.2003 at 21:26:48:
kot sm ti ze povedu, jaz verjamem v pristnost tvojega obcutka (da ga ne imitiras), ampak dvomim v njegovo koristnost, tko zate kot za ostale. Quote:
kaksnega soocenja? |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Kali on 09.05.2003 at 13:07:19 wrote on 09.05.2003 at 08:48:57:
Npr. v soboto ob obletnici Pozitivk, da se debata nadaljuje iz oči v oči... :) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by aryan on 09.05.2003 at 13:32:34 Petra. wrote on 09.05.2003 at 13:07:19:
tega se res bojim ja. zato ker ob sobotah mam jaz druzenje z isto-mislecimi osebami kot sem jaz, in se ga bojim zamudit. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Kali on 09.05.2003 at 13:46:51 wrote on 09.05.2003 at 13:32:34:
Aryan, ne boš verjel, zate si tud sredi tedna vzamem čas! :) ;) Pa ti povej, kdaj lahko kam prideš? |
Title: Re: EGO Post by aryan on 09.05.2003 at 14:14:22 kaj ce bi ti prsla kam? |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 09.05.2003 at 14:32:10 prosim da se ne pingpongate po tem topicu. dobro veste da nerad brišem poste ... zato prosim za malo uvidevnosti ... |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 10.05.2003 at 01:14:30 mind wrote on 06.05.2003 at 20:26:24:
ta MIR je pot k SREČI ... imho in tudi ... ni govora o pokončanju ... govora je o transformaciji ... vprašanje je ... česa? ... se reče ... kaj ego sploh je ??? |
Title: :)Re: EGO Post by stojchi on 10.05.2003 at 12:28:23 dragi moji, veselim se našega današnjega srečanja. :) Ker je ego vroča tema, sem posebej zato prevedel Nanakovo pesem o egu, ki jo je napisal pred petsto leti. Upam, da bo objavljena na pozitivkah, :) nekaj prevodov pripravljam tudi od drugih meni priljubljenih avtorjev. :) za karmo+ pa pripravljam članek z naslovom dva boga :) Mnogi mojstri so rekli, da je božje kraljestvo znotraj, ::) tudi jezus je to izjavil, ;) torej vse kar ni to notranje božje kraljestvo, je ego :) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by aryan on 10.05.2003 at 21:11:24 bog je vseprisoten, tudi njegovo prebivalisce je vseprisotno. on je tko notr, kot uzuni, kot povsod. tist ki je ponizen ga bo lahko spoznal. ce se nekdo postavlja s svojim ponosom, trudom, sposobnostmi itd. to odbija Boga. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by mind on 11.05.2003 at 13:25:02 Quote:
gape, spomni se na psihopata.... Quote:
če rečeš transformacija, potem ni vprašanje samo "česa" ampak tudi v "kaj" Quote:
lahko rečemo, da ima človek dva zmotna ega.....oz. enega....to je/sta čustva in um ta ego ima nalogo poistovečanja.....ubiješ ali pokončaš ta ego tako, da se nehaš poistovečat z telesom iz katerega izhajajo čustva in um amapak to naredtiti je zelo težko, ker dosedaj si se lahko zanašal samo na svoj um oz. čustva (kao na SEBE) , sedaj pa je potreben naslednji korak (delovanje pod vodstvom nekoga drugega, in tukaj um in čustva izgubita svojo (zmotno)vlogo ).....to je za EGO zelo težko, ker misli da lahko sam vse zmore....ampak smo že parkrat dokazali kako nepoplna sta um in čustva bi se lahko reklo.....ego raje (dolgoročno, večno) trpi, kot da bi priznal svojo podrejenost to lahko vidiš pri t.i. egoistih....oni imajo vedno prav :-/ V Giti je tud razloženo, da za dosego ne-poistovečanja ni nujno potreben "odklop" , ampak pravilno delovanje....kar pomeni da lahko vsak dalje opravlja svojo "zemeljsko" oz. "materialno" dolžnost, kot jo je do sedaj. Razlika je samo v tem, da zdaj to ni več temeljna naloga ampak stranska, ki pa je lahko veliko bolj uspešna in učinkovita saj "sledi" oz. izhaja iz glavne (ki je služenje Bogu v ljubezni, ki kot vemo more bit obojestranska, drugač ni haska) :) hmm, si bom mogo nick spremenit ??? LP |
Title: Re: EGO Post by stojchi on 13.05.2003 at 18:31:09 na obletnici Pozitivk je bilo res lepo, ::) škoda, da nisem imel časa, nadaljevati do jutranjih ur ;) najprej odgovor kredenu: zapomni si, da je tisti ego, ki vsem preseda izključno v glavi ;) in prestrašenemu arianu: Boga nič ne odbija, ;D bog je kakor sonce :-* vanj lahko pljuvaš kolikor hočeš, :P pa zato ne bo zate nič manj svetilo :D drugo je s pljunki namenjenimi njemu :P posebej opoldne ::) kar pa res hudo odbija, ego hudo odbija ego ;D in odgovor mindu ;) stvar je mnogo bolj preprosta, kot se zdi ;) najdi tistega, ki bo dekodiral tvoj dih :-* odgovor že itak poznaš, a ;)ne |
Title: Re: EGO Post by mind on 13.05.2003 at 18:48:10 Quote:
morem najprej dekodirat ta tvoj nasvet Quote:
odgovor na kaj ? LP |
Title: Re: EGO Post by stojchi on 13.05.2003 at 22:59:03 odgovor na to, kdo ti lahko dekodira tvoj dih ;D če ti je vprašanje pretežko, si poglej članek na pozitivkah "Kdo sem jaz" lp |
Title: Re: EGO Post by aryan on 14.05.2003 at 10:35:30 stoychi wrote on 13.05.2003 at 18:31:09:
tko opisujes kot da je bog nekaj impersonalnega, neosebnega, brez zavesti. res da je on vsem enak (njegov neosebni aspekt), ampak hkrati ima on tudi svoja obcutja itd. in tam se cuti odbijanje ali pa privlacenje. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by aryan on 14.05.2003 at 12:28:19 kreden, tak bog kot ga ti opisujes je tko kot da si vsak svojega lahko izmisli ali imaginira, kot da je bog nek proizvod uma, in kot tak ima lahko vsak svojga, ampak v koncni fazi ga tko al tko ni, ali pa sem jaz bog. ? |
Title: Re: EGO Post by aryan on 14.05.2003 at 12:57:02 a pa po tvoje pol obstaja tud pravi bog, ne tist ki ga umetno proizvede nas um? |
Title: Re: EGO Post by aryan on 14.05.2003 at 13:13:36 heh, se en tak k se rad izmika in izmika in se ne pusti prevec zmotit v svojih sanjah. sam tud te se slej k prej koncajo ko naenkrat velik sonca (resnice) posvet. upam da bomo kdaj koncno ze lahko enkrat iskreni do sebe in ostalih. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by aryan on 14.05.2003 at 13:30:27 hvala za nasvet. ;) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by stojchi on 14.05.2003 at 14:10:48 Bog je kot ogromna vesoljska hidroelektrarna, :-* ki pošilja energijo v transformacijske postaje galaksij :-* po širnem vesolju. ;) :-* Te transformacijske postaje jo transformirajo :-* in pošiljajo naprej v manjše postaje zvezd, ;) :-* ki jo transformirajo in pošiljajo naprej, :-* svojim planetom in življu na njih. :-* Človeku so po božji milosti dani čuti, :-* da se lahko sinhronizira s to, :-* najsubtilnejšo :-* in najžlahtnejšo, božansko, vesoljno energijo. :) :-* ne čustva in ne razum prijatelji, temveč osnovni čuti :-* čeprav mi ves čas razlagaš, kaj ti misliš, :P ali ne misliš, :P vendar jaz, ves čas čakam, :o da boš končno kjerkoli napisal(a) ;) kaj ti čutiš. :-* :-*čutenje :-* je mnogo, mnogo več, kot mišljenje ??? |
Title: Re: EGO Post by aryan on 14.05.2003 at 15:03:08 naj bo to obcutenje, obcutenje aktivne vecnosti. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by stojchi on 22.05.2003 at 22:23:07 :) in vendar smo iz notranjega sveta izšli :) in vanj se bomo tudi vrnili, :) ker je naša življenska sila, mogočna in neuničljiva :) nekateri pravijo, :) da smo stvarniku, :) preden smo se rodili, :) sveto obljubili, :) da kaj vse dobrega, :) bomo za časa, :) svojega življenja storili, :) že prepoznanje lastnega srca, :) danes ni tako majhna stvar, :) napotiti ljudi, :) v njih pravi izvor, :) pa je za marsikoga :) že resničen blagoslov :) in jaz sem blagoslovljen :) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Kali on 26.05.2003 at 00:46:36 Ego vs. True Self by Vincent Cole There comes a stage in spiritual development when you will experience the conflict between the fears of the ego and the power of spirit. During this stage of conflict you will feel as if you are teeter-tottering between the two. One moment spirituality is in the forefront. The next moment it is the ego dominating your thoughts and actions. Your True Personality is coming forth into your consciousness and is a more powerful vibration than the ego. As your True Self emerges it will challenge how you think, how you see the world, and how you live your life. As spiritual awareness begins to grow stronger the ego will begin to diminish. The ego has no power against the higher vibrations of your True Self, but it will resist. This time of conflict will be a time of fear and confusion as the ego struggles to survive. An ego-based identity seeks only that which strengthens it. All else is seen as a threat. Therefore, in the beginning, as you take the next step in evolution, you will feel a conflict, a division within yourself as a new way of being struggles to emerge. This is an important and beneficial awakening. Be patient but also be strong. It will be a great temptation to go back to what is familiar. The ego will seek that which is known, that which it sees as safe. Even a painful life is preferable to the ego than having to face the unknown. During times of conflict the ego retreats into the familiarity of old beliefs and routine actions, while the True Self instinctually moves forward towards new experiences, new understandings, and a new way of being in the world. Conflict arises during these periods of transition as you move from the past into the future, uncertain of the next step. Realize it is the ego causing the uncertainty, the confusion and conflict. It struggles against that which it cannot control. This period of conflict will last only as long as you cling to the old way of being. It is a battle, to be sure, but the inner struggle is but a birth into a new awareness. You will face this struggle many times as you reach new levels of awareness and your True Self radiates its power. There will be conflict each time another old belief cherished by the ego is to be sacrificed. Do not fear these conflicts. They are the birth pains of self-transformation. The trials of conflict will come in stages, as much as you can handle at a time. It cannot be rushed. Take small steps in the beginning. Be kind to yourself during these times of emotional turmoil. Take time to rest and take the time to sit quietly. Take time to call on those spiritual forces that aid you in this struggle. You do not go through this alone. Peace will come to you again, but the lesson is not over. Once the initial distress of conflict subsides there is an attempt to compromise. This is a time when the ego will try to take what spiritual knowledge you have gained and make it its own. It will take the new knowledge and apply it to the old way of being. To illustrate: rather than exchanging an old shirt for a new one, the ego will take the sparkling clean shirt and place it over the old tattered one. You cannot take the knowledge you are gaining, the new insights and the joy you are feeling and layer it over the ego. It will only be an illusion. Outside the appearance is spiritual, the words spoken sound spiritual; even the show of psychic ability seems evidence of having become a spiritual being. Beneath the surface, however, the ambitions, the fears, the quest for personal power still remain. The ego maintains control. Be aware of this within yourself. Be aware of such compromises in others; those who seek to appear special in the world, those who use their spiritual knowledge to gain personal power, to accumulate material wealth, to attract attention and adulation, those who see all "rewards" as proof of divine favor. Such individuals often form the more dogmatic, exclusive forms of organized religion where "they teach as doctrine the precepts of men." This is not to be judged, but seen as an essential step in evolution. It is a valuable experience. Since the vibrations of spiritual consciousness and egotistical thought patterns are different and incompatible, inevitably an even greater conflict results and the individual will be forced to choose a new direction. Conflict has its value. It is during the mental confusion and emotional turmoil that the differences between the True Personality and the ego become obvious. Become aware of the conflict. Understand the dynamics of personal growth. Know that as the ego begins to weaken it will struggle to gain prominence. Anger and fear and depression may increase. Confusion results because the ego cannot understand what is happening. It is too limited. As the ego fights to regain its position you will find yourself thinking only of yourself, attempting to glorify your achievements of newfound knowledge that you are only beginning to glimpse. This is a trick of the ego. This is an attempt by the ego to take what is universal and make it personal. During this time you must be your most disciplined and ever vigilant. Do not judge yourself, but simply be aware and learn. Take time to question the ego's influence on your spiritual life. Some thoughts may be quite subtle, convincing you that what you want is of a spiritual nature, whereas, it appeals more to the ego than to the heart. Simply remember the criteria of the ego. Remember its need for self-preservation, its concerns with physical well-being, and its hunger for personal power. If your thoughts are centered on fear and worry and self-defense, know it is of the ego. If you wish to glorify yourself to the world, it is of the ego. Because you are still a child you may not recognize the ego at work. Therefore, carefully take small steps. The beginning of spiritual awareness may seem wobbly. You may be unsure which foot to put forward. You may easily fall. But if you are sincere in your desire for spiritual growth there will be someone to catch you. You will again have the opportunity to stand and walk. Allow yourself times of conflict. They are growing pains. Allow yourself to fail at times. You will learn from the experience. On this path of evolution be willing to stumble and fall. Be willing to again stand up and walk. A child is willing to crawl before learning to walk. A child does not give up should he or she fall. The child continues to learn as helping hands support the attempt. Soon the child learns to run. So it is with spiritual evolution. And, as you stand and take the next step forward, be aware of outside distractions. Old situations, old attitudes, and even old friends will rise up to lead you astray. You are taking a new path, but the old way is still visible, still strong and demanding. Do not judge it. Instead, understand it for what it is, nothing more than the past pulling at you. Find the strength to walk in a new direction. Be willing to stand alone for a moment, and then ask the forces of God to help you take the next step. Periods of conflict do not last long, but they are a crucial time in your development. If you seek to avoid conflict by being lazy, if you are satisfied with your present self, if you think there is nothing left to learn, then you are a child content to crawl, never knowing the joy of running. Dear child, keep in mind this is only the beginning. Be mindful that there is much more to life and do not settle for less. A great deal awaits you but first this bridge of conflict must be crossed. Ignore the raging waters beneath it. Become deaf to the voices calling behind you, calling you to return. Dear child of great strength, do not allow your legs to collapse beneath you, but continue to cross the bridge of conflict regardless of the difficulties. Continue to keep your mind and vision on the other side awaiting you. This will help. This will offer encouragement. As you cross the bridge you will see and feel your spiritual power. This will encourage you to face the conflict and endure the turmoil. Tell yourself at this time you will not turn back. Tell yourself that you will not leave the road because something glitters off to the side. It is only a distraction appealing to the ego. Tell yourself that as you move into a new consciousness, as you move into a new way of being, God is with you. You are not alone. You have never been alone. What you seek is far greater than anything you have ever known. There is nothing in the past that can possibly describe where you are going. No past experience will explain the new person you will soon discover within yourself. You are learning. Keep that in mind as you stumble and fall; you are learning. Keep in mind when you are tempted and become distracted that you are learning. Give yourself the gift of compassion. Give yourself a sense of grace. Remind yourself you have chosen this way and you have the power to accomplish it. During times of conflict and confusion you will find a strength you did not know you had; strength you kept hidden, strength unknown by the world around you. Ask for this strength and it will rise up within you. ------------ This article is excerpted from the book "The Next Step in Evolution", ©2000, by Vincent Cole. Reprinted with permission of the author. Published by Writers Club Press, an imprint of iUniverse.com, Inc. http://www.iuniverse.com/ About the Author: Vincent Cole is a wandering monk who has been facilitating prayer and meditation groups, as well as Women Healing Circles for the past 15 years throughout the United States. While on a personal year long retreat in the desert outside Tucson, AZ, Brother Vincent took a collection of channeled messages given to a small prayer group many years ago, and edited them into the book "The Next Step in Evolution -- a personal guide." |
Title: Re: EGO Post by himynameis on 26.05.2003 at 01:24:02 Clearing out Misconceptions about “Ego” We are all born without any ego-strength. For that matter, we are all born without an ego. Sure we are born as a self, a human self, we just don’t know it. Being born without any sense of ego means that, at first, there is no “I.” There is only enmeshment. As babies, we grow inside our mothers—fully attached. Then comes the separation. We come into this world still attached and enmeshed with our mother and without the ability to distinguish ourselves from her. As an infant, it is all one and the same. This is the process by which we become an autonomous human being. The physiological separation of birth precedes the psychological separation and birth of the self. We call this process individuation. “Ego” is Greek for I. In the Greek New Testament or a Greek version of Plato or Aristotle any time someone says, “I...” they utter the word ego. Thousands of years later Sigmund Freud designated ego as the sense of self, the “I” that deals with and relates to reality. Normally our ego-strength grows and develops psychologically as we grow and develop physically. It’s part of our psycho-cognitive-social development. We develop more and more of a sense of self as we face reality. As that “I” develops the ability to see and accept reality for what it is, without the magical thinking of wishing and confusing wishing with reality, we develop more strength for coping and mastering the facts and constraints that life puts before us. Weak ego-strength describes a person’s senses of self that doesn’t easily face, take in, and cope with what is. Instead it fights reality, hates it, and wishes it otherwise. Expectations are unrealistic and based on inadequate understanding. Reality seems too big, too frightening, too overwhelming ... and so we avoid the encounter. In weak ego-strength, we don’t feel up to the task but unresourceful, weak, fragile, unable to cope, etc. The weaker the ego-strength, the less we will engage reality and the more we will flee to superstition, magic thinking and wishing, and addictions. Strong ego-strength describes the person who first accepts whatever is as existing has raised his or her frustration tolerance, then looks at it and explores it with a view of dealing with it, coping and mastering. With strong ego-strength we do not personalize things that happen in the world or what others say. We notice and we access the necessary resources to deal with it. The strong our ego-strength grows, the more of a sense of self we develop and the greater our a sense of skills and resources, and ability to handle whatever comes. This use of “ego” differs from how we use when we say, “He has his ego involved” in this or that. Then we are speaking about a person’s self-definition, pride, and reputation. Typically this indicates a weak ego strength and the need to boaster it up by fighting, defending, and being defensive. There’s a paradox here. The stronger our ego, the less our “ego” is involved, or “on the line” with what we do. Strengthening our ego enables us to sit our “ego” aside and to engage the world as we explore what is out there and what opportunities it offers. Več o temi... http://www.neurosemantics.com/Articles/Ego_Strength.htm |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 26.05.2003 at 10:31:35 himynameis wrote on 26.05.2003 at 01:24:02:
da ne bi prihajalo do miskonsepšnov in da razrešimo paradox, uporabljamo besedo ego za nižji jaz in eno od višjeletečih besed (višji jaz recimo) za višji jaz, ki pa ni več ego, saj je definiran ravno kot odsotnost "ega". |
Title: Re: EGO Post by himynameis on 26.05.2003 at 15:56:48 gape wrote on 26.05.2003 at 10:31:35:
Ta človek "nižjega jaza" sploh ne imenuje ego, pač pa ga da pod narekovaje ("ego"), v smislu, da to ni to, čeprav ga mnogi tako imenujejo. Pravi ego je v bistvu tvoj "višji jaz" in nič drugega. To lepo razloži tukaj: Quote:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by ten-nej on 26.05.2003 at 17:02:25 Men se pa zdi, da je tale s tem člankom Clearing out Misconceptions about “Ego”, usekal mimo. Ego oziroma jaz je namreč tista instanca našega sebstva, ki skrbi za naše preživetje v realnem. Še posebej pa je vsekal mimo pri Freudu (bolje da ga sploh ne bi omenjal) Freud zastavi nekoliko drugače: Freud je dodelil nalogo vzgajanja čuta realnosti hipotetični nevrološki strukturi oziroma funkcijskemu delu uma, ki ga je imenoval »das Ich« ali ego (Jaz). V njegovi končni konceptualizaciji je to strukturo povezal še z dvema drugima: 1. »Nadjaz«, ki presoja ali kritizira jaz in vključuje tudi »ideal Jaza«, ki predstavlja ideje ali standarde s katerimi je bil Jaz sojen; 2. primitivno »Ono« ali id, ki je naravna matrica (kalup) osnovnih in potencialno konfliktnih instinktov ali gonov – to je, struktur, ki bi proizvajale osnovna čustva in motive (vzgibe) za delovanje – iz katerih se razvijejo ostali. Njegove pozne obravnave teh pojmov so še posebej težavne, deloma tudi zato, ker kombinirajo razlikujoče se načine razlage. Po Freudovi teoriji sta se Jaz in Nadjaz razvila iz Onega, v glavnem skoz otrokove formativne identifikacije z drugimi, posebej starši. Otrok ponavadi napreduje proti samo-kontroli s predstavljanjem prototipičnih podob staršev, v njihovi vlogi regulatorjev socialno pomembnih telesnih aktivnosti, posebej teh, ki vključujejo hranjenje in iztrebljanje. Te »najzgodnejše roditeljske podobe iz otroških let(imagos)« zagotovijo osnove za Nadjaz. Ta samo-kritična zmožnost uteleša otrokovo agresijo v projektirani obliki ter tako teži k temu, da je daleč bolj kaznovalna kakor dejanski starši. Zato je lahko vir velike tesnobe ali krivde, v ekstremu pa celo samomora. Nadalje otrok vzpostavlja svoj Jaz z identifikacijo s staršema kot predstavnikoma, to je kot tistima, ki želita in zadovoljujeta željo. Glavni korak v normalni razvoj je identifikacija s staršem istega spola, kar ima za svojo posledico to, da so seksualne (in druge) želje izražene ne-incestno, heteroseksualno in reproduktivno. Da bi se to uresničilo, pa mora otrok prekiniti namero zamenjave starša, kateremu zavida s tem, da postaja tak kakor on ali ona. Tako končna vzpostavitev Jaza in Nadjaza sovpade s tem, kar je Freud imenoval razkroj Ojdipovega kompleksa. Po Freudu bi torej višji jaz padel pod instanco Nadjaza, ego pa se razvija skozi identifikacije, medtem ko je osnovna funkcija jaza to, da skrbi za preživetje posameznika in vrste. Prav tako kot pri Freudu ne najdemo delitve na višji in nižji jaz, to so koncepti, ki prihajajo iz raznoraznih religij svojo vitalnost pa črpajo iz razmerja duhovno-materialno oziroma duh-telo. lp |
Title: Re: EGO Post by himynameis on 26.05.2003 at 17:07:16 t wrote on 26.05.2003 at 17:02:25:
Saj ravno to je on govoril. Preberi si celotni članek na njegovi strani. :) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 26.05.2003 at 23:00:22 uuuuhhhhh na rootu mamo 999 kmal bo pa 000 Total Topics: 2224 - Total Posts: 51999 *Pravi ego je v bistvu tvoj "višji jaz" in nič drugega.* kaj hočeš rečt? da ti ne odstopaš od take semantike kjer je ego neki pozitivnega? zarad mene komot. samo da se ve da če ti napišeš da, ego nja nja, to u bistvu pomeni da, višji jaz nja nja. ampak ta članek on ni o egu in njega narobnemu (ali pravilnemu) dojemaju, ampak o ego-strength-u o moči ki jo ego lahko uporablja za svoje delovanje. o delovanju si lahko gor prebereš ko je tenay lepo opisu reč. in tud ta beseda se najde notr. in sm spomnem da sm urco nazaj čitu tvoje zagovajanje nedelovanja. ego pa edini lahko deluje v mayi. višji jaz lahko deluje samo preko telesa, tega pa nadzira ego. telo je del ega. o moči ki napolni prostor sm ti napisu klele http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?action=display;board=prijateljstvo;num=1052643844;start=60#69 tehnike naj bi sproducirale iste 'vrednote'/'lastnosti', kot jih poznamo in se jih veselimo mi tukaj če sm te narobe razumel (ali pač majkla), te prosm da poskusiš obrazložit, ker men se zdi da je pač samo terminologija druga. in kaj so te modeli nevrosemantičari ... so oni kej nlp scena in to .. neki mi majo počasn sajt ... al pa je siol spet neki deth |
Title: Re: EGO Post by himynameis on 26.05.2003 at 23:04:19 V bistvu je tvoj "višji Jaz" ta "strong ego", ki ga pisec opisuje, "nižji Jaz" pa "weak ego". V tem smislu. Nima to nobene veze z delovanjem ali nedelovanjem. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 26.05.2003 at 23:08:16 si zihr? |
Title: Re: EGO Post by himynameis on 26.05.2003 at 23:11:18 gape wrote on 26.05.2003 at 23:08:16:
Če govorimo o višjem Jazu, potem mislim, da ne? Oziroma ima vezo, ker je od tega seveda neposredno odvisen tvoj način in izbira med delovanjem in nedelovanjem. Druge povezave ne vidim, ali je pač še kakšna? |
Title: Re: EGO Post by stojchi on 27.05.2003 at 16:48:22 :) kot je rekel in zapel moj priljubljen pesnik in mojster Nanak, že pred 500 leti o srcu in egu sledeče, s čimer se sam seveda globoko strinjam. :) Srce in ego, sta na nasprotnih straneh. Onadva ne moreta obstajati, na istem mestu hkrati. Ego ne more služiti Bogu in to življenje ostane brez smisla. Prijatelj meditiraj na Boga, zasluži si, kar mojster daje, sledi njegovim navodilom in tvoj ego bo izginil. Ves ta svet, je en sam ego, rojen je v egu in v egu tudi gre. Ego je ogromna jama teme, nihče ne najde jasnosti v njem. V egu ni predanosti, ego nima modrosti, duša postane ujeta v ego in zavestnost oslabi. Nanak je našel svojega mojstra in njegov ego je izginil, dojel je smisel življenja. Zaslužil je bistvo, živel je resnico, služil je resničnosti in postal eno z njo. :) brez prepoznanja notranje svetlobe, absoluta, ali sebstva, se res nikomur niti ne sanja, kaj ego v bistvu je in tudi zadnji berač, ki jo je res doživel, ve več o egu, kot vsi današnji "Freudi" ;) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Kali on 28.05.2003 at 17:34:53 What do you dislike about yourself? Your addiction to your ego; dramas; your intellect; lack; to avoiding being bored; your suffering; your patterns of control. We all have aspects of our beingness, that are unlovable, yet paradoxically all is love, so these of course are loved. But what is also loved and allowed by All That Is - is that place where we judge; and cause pain; and reject; and manipulate; and control - where we use lust, and pride, and envy, and sloth. These are allowed; they are part of the wholeness; so it's about allowing these aspects to just be - because the more you try to get rid of them the more they will be in your face - because they are where your attention is. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Kali on 28.05.2003 at 17:37:02 http://www.geocities.com/zakairan/EgoTerrorism.html http://www.geocities.com/zakairan/Ego1and2.html |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 19.06.2003 at 03:58:04 wrote on 16.06.2003 at 13:56:44:
* mi trpimo sam zarad napacnega delovanja, ne zarad delovanja samega. pravilno delovanje je tisto ki nas izpolne. * |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Kali on 22.07.2003 at 01:31:55 Ego – The Owner's Manual By Lisa Marie Gutowski ON OUR WAY TO REMEMBERING OUR TRUE SELVES, which is the point of being here, we have assistance from a variety of sources. Some are high on the vibrationary energy scale, such as angels, guides, ascended masters, and our higher selves. This is assistance from our love sources, and we can respond in kind with their help. The opposite of the love response is fear, and if we so choose, we can use the resources of the lower, slower vibrations, which are known in psychology as defense mechanisms. At the root of all that is not love is fear. The need for self-protection, self defense, a safe haven for our soul as it heals and gains ground against the harshness of the perceived world is a vital part of the human experience. Feeling safe to awaken the higher aspects of the self is important; healing and awakening will not occur in a fear state. Unless we are able to invite wholeness to be us, it will not, we have to want it enough to be available to it. Until we can "drop our guard" we can embrace nothing. The Universe is an energy realm where all is but perception. Buried deep within each cell is the total recollection of every emotion, event, thought, deed, and memory, as we have perceived it from conception. What is stored is energy, and energy can be altered. Energy is just energy, neither positive or negative in its basic state. We assign the positive/negative/neutral aspect to it for our use. Our thoughts are pure energy, and only we are responsible for them. It takes conscious energy to alter another energy pattern. By our thoughts we are able to change the very patterns of energy trapped in our DNA. By learning how to consciously take the helm on our incoming/outgoing energy patterns, we can stop the accumulation of negatively charged energy that decreases the flow of healing and ascension. The second, equally important aspect is to clear out the remaining stagnant negative energy that has been trapped in our bodies, causing dis-ease. Piece of cake, right? As we come into the physical world, we are like pristine lakes, filled with freshly fallen rain from the heavenly realms. Some lakes have strong swift currents in them, as they are connected to other bodies of water. This refreshes the lake, nurturing and revitalizing the life that resides in it, cleansing the entire eco-system that surrounds it. Some lakes have remained stagnant, cut off from the fresh input of clean water for so long, life is no longer a viable option. Sound like anyone you know? We can resuscitate the sluggish places in ourselves with intent, with love, and with patience. Then the people who surround us will start to be enlived by our very presence. That's another story. Universal intelligence equips us with all that we need for enlightenment, for cleansing, for healing, for coming back to spirit. The energy systems that spring from and form our bodies can be used for the defense of our being while we heal; this is the lower vibrational resource. Each chakra, every layer of our auric field can be employed for our benefit. Once a knowledge base is achieved, akin to a user's manual, and our base line motives are revealed, we can see where our major defense mechanisms spring from, and decide on a course of action to heal them. Healing our core issues builds strength, not only in our personalities, but in our energetic systems. We can then alter the resource we use to react to day-to-day issues. When we are solid in ourselves, secure in our environment, and at peace with our spiritual wisdom, we become an immoveable force, impenetrable to outside disturbances. We are able to function fully, expressing our true selves entirely, not rock solid like the oak tree, which breaks in the storm, but having a flexible strength, like the willow, able to bend and flow in any situation. Becoming the willow will require a willingness to see honestly, in complete openness, the truth of one's self. It takes time, patience, and practice, with a load of grace on the side...a never-ending process to be sure. Humans are complex beings, able to hide our deepest truths, not only from others, but also from ourselves. The ego is with us from birth; it is the self, the instinct to survive, the desire by which we discover our uniqueness. It is from the ego that fear based defense mechanisms arise. Whether we choose to respond to the stimulus before us in love or fear, it is reinforced by repeated use. We have neural pathways in our brains, which as we learn or do anything get reinforced, like ruts in the road, becoming deeper and wider with use. As infants, we are completely open in all our energy systems. Crying to have our needs met is a physical activity designed to anchor our base chakra to the earth. As we pull the energy down, we become more comfortable in our own skin, as it were. With the conscious use of our ego, remembering ego is neither good nor bad but a tool for our use while we need it, our higher chakras recede while the lower chakras build in strength. This also serves us, helping us forget our prior-to-birth selves, allowing further integration into the physical plane. We re-enliven our higher chakras gradually as we age, and our self- centeredness evolves into a more global view. This begins with the realization that other people are separate beings, then the recognition of the family unit, then local society. Later we become cognizant of the world and our place in it. The gradual pace is a defense mechanism designed so that we are not overloaded by awareness when we are not yet ready. Defense mechanisms are fail-safe devices, acting as buffers until we are capable of responding in love, not fear. Once the mechanisms are recognized, a person can then choose to alter their perceptions, which changes their behaviors, imprinting new responses to the same stimulus. The energetic systems then expand, allowing the blocked energy to be released, causing greater flow throughout the body, increasing health, awareness, and chi (energy). The ego, once a valuable protection device, becomes "dispensable". Like all other defense mechanisms, the ego must decrease as we become en-light-ened, dropping our heavy, lower vibrational baggage, to walk as unencumbered light beings. However, until the ego is convinced that we no longer need its protection, it will fight to survive. That is what it is designed to do - keep us alive by defending us from all perceived attacks. Only by the gradual and intentional use of the love responses (forgiveness, humility, honesty, integrity) instead of the ego based fear defense mechanisms (blame, shame, guilt, rage,helplessness) can we let the ego disappear completely. Do not give the ego any more power than that; it is a tool, nothing more. How do we recognize a fear-based response, one that contracts us rather than expands? By paying extremely close attention to ourselves, gaining knowledge of how the universe works, and by asking it to be revealed, while it is occurring or while reflecting on the event. We are each other's keeper. Every person we have ever come into contact with is a mirror, showing us our true nature, as we are to them. Every emotional encounter is charged with what we need to pay attention to in ourselves. Every situation is one that we have called into existence by our creative thought energy, useful in our healing even before we are awake enough to see it. When the realization that all we have suffered, the pain, the heartache, the human drama has been for our benefit, that each person has an individualized path for our mutual growth, and that we can neutralize fear with knowledge based love really takes hold in our consciousness, we can end suffering for ourselves. We can walk this earth with confidence, no longer needing our ego filled defense mechanisms to jump in front of us for protection. This state of grace is ours for the asking, but the inner work must be passed through. There are no shortcuts. Dissecting the response to the stimulus will allow us to see where the root has been anchored, how deep it goes, and how we can pull it out completely. Knowledge is power, and the more we know about ourselves, the more powerful we become, for ourselves, our communities, our world. An empowered person has no need for defense mechanisms, no ego issues to declare. Think of how wonderful this world will be when we cease having to use this tool to survive. When we listen to our bodies, emotions, and feel psychically our energetic bodies, we are able to control the emotional response before it takes control. By detaching the emotion - using your imagination to put the emotion on "pause", placing it in a bubble, and putting it outside of yourself - it looses its charge. We see it for what it truly is, an emotion, e = energy in motion. When we are no longer personally attached to the emotion, we no longer have to act on it. If we choose to bring the emotion back to us, we can at any time. With practice this becomes easier; the higher the charge on the emotion or the deeper the defense mechanism is, the more practice is required. The first step is asking questions when the defensive emotion appears. What is it? Is it anger? Greed? Jealousy? Hopelessness? Desire? Where on the body do you feel it originates? How intense is the emotion? Any defense mechanism can be done to you or come from you. Remember, everyone is a mirror here to help us see ourselves. Any defense mechanism can aid a person in avoiding the core issue. There are seven major chakras in the body. Each has a function differing from the others yet are connected by the energetic system which runs through our body. Surrounding us like an egg is the aura, each layer corresponding to a chakra. The energy of the emotion can be felt in or near a chakra, or if you are sensitive to energy scanning, can be felt in the layers of the aura. A brief explanation of which chakra correlates with which defense mechanism will help you understand how the body stores and uses these emotions. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Kali on 22.07.2003 at 01:32:23 1st chakra - base, located at the base of the spine at the tailbone in the back and the pubic bone in the front: Issues of: security, survival, safety, feelings of anxiety, frustration, helplessness, insecurity, greed, money or sex (men) issues Defense mechanisms: physical abusiveness, rebelling against society or family, body issues like anorexia, obesity, smoking, drug abuse, stealing, overly sexual or impotence, sexual abuse (men). Can feel the emotion: in the sexual organs (men), the hips, legs, feet, lower back. 2nd chakra - tan tien, located two inches below the navel: Issues of: sex (women), blocked creativity, repressed emotions, immobility. Defense mechanisms: emotionally explosive, sexual manipulation, need for control or to be controlled, overly sexual or frigid, emotional withdrawal, sexual abuse (women). Can feel the emotion: in the kidneys, sex organs (women), bowels, lower back, bladder, large intestine. 3rd chakra - solar plexus, two inches below the breastbone: Issues of: power, ego, pride, self - esteem, blame. Defense mechanisms: overpowering, intimidation, over working or under working, also emotional withdrawal and manipulation (he who cares the least has the most power). Can feel the emotion: in the stomach, liver, nerves, gut, gall bladder, pancreas, small intestines. 4th chakra - heart: Issues of: love, connecting the upper chakras (spiritual) to the lower (earthly), paranoia, unworthiness. Defense mechanisms: co-dependency, emotional blackmail, self-pity. Can feel the emotion: in the chest, lungs, heart, circulatory system, shoulders, upper back. 5th chakra - throat, in the v at the collarbone at the bottom of the neck: Issues of: communication, creativity in the written or spoken word. Defense mechanisms: verbal abuse, uncommunicative, lying, sarcasm. Can feel the emotion: in the throat, neck, teeth, ears, thyroid, skin. 6th chakra - third eye, between the eyebrows above the eyes: Issues of: not hearing intuition, superficiality or too literal. Defense mechanisms: daydreaming, pollyanna- ism, being or attracting an energy vampire. Can feel the emotion: in the eyes, face, brain, lymphatic systems, endocrine system 7th chakra - the crown, at the top of the head: Issues of: frustration, lack of joy, destructiveness Defense mechanisms: migraine, depression, fanaticism, overly preoccupied. Can feel the emotion: in the soul, back of head How does it present itself? Sharp pain like a knife, or dull like novacaine? It can be felt on many levels: is there tension, tightness, is the pain psychological, physical, or emotional? Do you feel heavy, suffocated, controlled, light-headed? Can you remember the very first time you felt it? Take the emotion backwards in time. Does it have a taste, a smell, a memory? Identifying where it is, when it began, or how it affects you is a great indicator of where the causal fear resides. Once you know all that you can about the response, again, realize that whatever occurred happened not only for your benefit, but for the growth of the other people involved. We can gain control over the defense mechanism when a trigger point is presented to us. By examining the originating causes of our stressors, we gain control over them, activating a change to the love response in every like situation that occurs. Then we will stop calling these situations to us because we have learned all that we needed to learn from them, and will no longer resonate at the same frequency. Can anyone say Hallelujah? To grow into this safe space, an understanding of grace must be achieved. Grace to allow others their path, grace to understand that this was an agreement made before either of you were born for the benefit of you both, and the grace not only to forgive others, but yourself as well. Perception is reality. Know who you truly are. In love all defenses dissolve. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Marjana on 22.07.2003 at 12:15:52 Osho: Pot belih oblakov http://novice.lunin.net/templates/zanimivosti.asp?articleid=540&zoneid=14 Ego je proces, ne realnost. Ego je lastnik želja in strahov. Oboje uporablja hkrati. Ego poganjajo želje, to mu daje vitalnost, moč, energijo. Brez želj se ego ustavi. Vsako pričakovanje je hrana za ego. Vi imate mehanizem za ustvarjanje upanja, imenuje se ego. Tu in zdaj ego ne more obstati. Če obstaja jutri, obstaja tudi ego. Brez "jutri" ego ne more živeti. Ne poizkušajte odvreči ego. Raje poglobite svoje razumevanje. Ego mora priti do svojega vrhunca, da bi ga lahko odvrgel. Ego lahko odvržeš, šele ko ti postane neznosno breme. Ego odpade sam, kdo ga naj sicer odvrže? |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Marjana on 25.07.2003 at 10:11:57 Quado -The battle with yourself is the ultimate battle Today’s message is in answer to a question from a reader. The question is: How is it that the inner child, or your subconscious, can have more power than your own conscious awareness, your free will? I have made free will choices, and then had them negated by my own inner child. Quado, do you have an answer to this question? Ah, yes, of course, of course. The battle with yourself is the ultimate battle and the one which must be won. It is more important than any of the battles you may have with other people, and you are correct to wish to focus on it. And you are also right. You may choose wonderful things for yourself on one level, wishing for yourself all the best, and then undermine yourself at every turn, through bad habits, lack of discipline and control. And so often it does seem that there is a wayward child inside, one who kicks up a fuss at every turn, wants her own way, and generally makes a mess of everything that you try to straighten out. And what you must do with this wayward child is what you must do with any wayward child. You must gently guide her, through love and caring, but with a firm hand. You must show her the way and have the courage to take her there, even if she kicks and screams and has a tantrum. Think of yourself as a person with layers, like an avocado. On the outside is the skin, the person you show to the world. In some people this skin is very thin, and the slightest thing will cause a tear. In some people the skin is really quite thick, and no one can see what lies underneath. But in both cases, what lies underneath is the emotional layer, and it is soft. This is the part of you that cries out in pain. The part of you that feels sorry for yourself. The part of you that kicks up a fuss, that loves to do things that are bad for yourself. This is the part of you focused on by psychologists, the part that was mistreated as child. The part that drives your mind and much of your life. And most people think that this is who they are, this child, this difficult, struggling, crying, whining and complaining emotional person. But it is not so. For underneath all of this is the core, and the core is strong and reliant. The core contains within it all of the creativity, the ability to become an entire tree. The core is your soul self, your glowing spiritual self, and it is the part of you which you must expand upon and develop. Go deeply to the core and learn to let it drive your life Get yourself out of the emotional self and down to the spiritual self through the daily and rigorous practice of meditation. Establish disciplines which build up this inner core of love and caring. Act in your own behalf by focusing here and not falling into the misguided belief that you are your emotional self or that you cannot control the emotional child within you. You can. But you do it not by focusing attention on her, but by focusing attention on your core, on the creative powerful self which is you. Focus here, until your core begins to glow golden and shines out, until the emotional self falls away, until you are nothing but your glowing golden spiritual soul self. This is the goal. Will you achieve this? No, you will not, not in this lifetime. But it is still the goal, and moving as closely to it as you can in this lifetime is a life well spent. This is your purpose, to glow with your soul self within this world. To be so full of love for yourself that you are wiling to do what you need to do to discipline yourself and develop yourself spiritually. Begin with meditation. Begin with love for yourself. Begin with giving yourself the gift of a quiet mind. When you learn to quiet and control your mind, you will then be able to build upon that to do all else. You will be able to build upon this core of youness, this central core of beingness, which is connected to the great stillness, the great all. And in this great all, this get stillness, there are no inner children whining and complaining. They are gone. They are part of the illusion. They are part of what falls away when this life is over. But you, the soul, the central glowing soulness of you does not go away, does not end. It is the part of you which is eternal and part of the great soul which is a part of the all. This must be the focus. This must be the parent who drives your life. Begin there. Build from there. It is all that is real. It is all that matters. And it has all the power. Carrie Hart http://forums.delphiforums.com/realmofbeing/messages (bolde sem dodala jaz) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 22.08.2003 at 17:57:35 gape wrote on 21.08.2003 at 00:43:18:
še za pregledat http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=86;start=15#16 |
Title: Re: EGO Post by stojchi on 22.08.2003 at 18:55:41 :) najbolj preprosto rečeno: stanje ega je stanje slabega počutja, stanje višjega jaza pa, zavest zadovoljstva, miru in sreče. To je vse. :-* |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 28.08.2003 at 00:43:29 a_hero wrote on 26.08.2003 at 21:35:24:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 31.08.2003 at 13:27:47 reinkarnacija http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=izventelesneizkusnje;action=display;num=1018357661;start= Reinkarnacija, vzhodnjaske vere?!? http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=svetovalnica;action=display;num=1056232701;start=30#30 --- ta je za premaknt ... religije ... V regresijo - da ali ne? http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=izventelesneizkusnje;action=display;num=999868534;start=0 regresija http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=izventelesneizkusnje;action=display;num=985978247;start=0 različnost gape wrote on 15.07.2002 at 23:53:18:
Re: dr.Rugelj o reinkarnaciji http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=samozdravljenje;action=display;num=1036360748;start=20#20 gape wrote on 27.07.2002 at 09:52:56:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by Kali on 01.09.2003 at 01:18:46 http://www.plotinus.com/dark_night_of_the_soul.htm |
Title: Re: EGO Post by indigo on 29.09.2003 at 15:28:07 on: 05/27/03 at 16:48:22 / stojchi: kot je rekel in zapel moj priljubljen pesnik in mojster Nanak (........) Srce in ego, sta na nasprotnih straneh. Onadva ne moreta obstajati, na istem mestu hkrati. Ego ne more služiti Bogu in to življenje ostane brez smisla (.......) on: 06/19/03 / gape: * mi trpimo sam zarad napacnega delovanja, ne zarad delovanja samega. pravilno delovanje je tisto ki nas izpolne. * Kdaj ljudje hoče z svojo držo vplivat na druge, kaj to pomeni, vedno delovanje ega .... ? LP |
Title: Re: EGO Post by stojchi on 29.09.2003 at 17:01:08 :) draga indigo, vse se začne v pozitivnem miselnem naboju, ki se poraja iz srca. :-* Ta pozitiven miselni naboj je ljubezen, :-* ki se odraža v besedah, dejanjih, :-* ki jih namenjamo sebi in drugim. :-* Če te ljubim :-*, brez kakega razloga, :-* ne da bi za to hotel, kako povratno uslugo :-* to ni ego, ampak višji jaz, :-* ego je vedno prikrajšan ??? in se čuti izigranega, >:( ali prevaranega, :( višji jaz pa samo čuti, :-* kdaj se oplemenjuje. :-* :-* :-* Kakor je Ego vedno izvor nezadovoljstva, je višji jaz zadovoljen tudi takrat, ker vse sprejema hvaležno, kot šolo življenja. :-* :-* :-* |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 29.09.2003 at 20:45:07 indigo wrote on 29.09.2003 at 15:28:07:
mal sm predelu vprašanje, če je to sploh bilo to ... jest rečem, recimo, delovanje skozi ego, ne da kr ego deluje ... zdej če za 'držo' misliš zgled, pol sploh ni nujno da je to to ... se reče ... če daješ samo zgled, če pa daješ zgled, in igraš in ta zgled ni usklajen z mislimi in besedami in sploh če ta zgled daješ izključno zato da bi na druge vplivu ... pol to je delovanje skozi ego ... |
Title: Re: EGO Post by indigo on 30.09.2003 at 12:39:44 stojchi - :) :) :) :) :) vse mi je zelo všeč :) :) :) samo praksa... :( ??? ni lahek :-/ :-/ imaš morda kakšni specialni svet ? :) :) :) gape wrote on 29.09.2003 at 20:45:07:
Mislim če hočemo vplivati na druge tudi s mišljenjem, mnenjem, (in če res mislimo to kaj govorimo), delamo s željom da spremenimo človeka - ali je to ego... :) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 30.09.2003 at 13:38:17 indigo wrote on 30.09.2003 at 12:39:44:
če je to proti njihovi svobodni volji ... potem to definitivno je delovanje skozi ego ... in ni gut |
Title: Re: EGO Post by indigo on 01.10.2003 at 00:32:44 Hm.. ja, tak nekaj sem si že mislila... zanimivo je da še vedno v praksi delam samo kajsi pravi... Tu v ovi topiki sem, če se dobro spominam, brala nekaj kot: 'pihanje ega' ... in davno je rekel moj učitelj yoge: 'Prvič moraš zadobiti pokončnu držu, samo potem se šteje kdaj se poniziš ' (tak nekak...) Mislim da so pomota (ali grehi) pogosto neposreden pot, stopnice k duhovnem razvoju... :) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by ten-nej on 01.10.2003 at 09:04:29 men je pa reku: stoj pokonci in se odmikaj le toliko, kot se drevo nagiba v vetru |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Kali on 01.10.2003 at 15:01:00 t wrote on 01.10.2003 at 09:04:29:
Evo, še ena misel tedna. 8) |
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 27.11.2003 at 02:12:34 DylanDog wrote on 26.11.2003 at 10:48:06:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by Kali on 06.01.2004 at 19:51:50 Step beyond yourself Take a step in the direction of freedom, in the direction of power and effectiveness, by taking a step away from your own ego. Go beyond seeing everything in terms of you, and you'll go beyond many of the limitations that hold you back. Take a step away from the concerns of your ego and you'll be stepping away from a lot of useless needs that only hold you back. You'll be stepping away from envy, spite, the need to prove yourself, and the constant worry about how others perceive you. What if you had no worries and could not be tempted to stray off course? What if you had the courage to act without being stopped by the fear of failure? Imagine the power of being able to stay totally focused, immune to all destructive and wasteful habits. The more you can get beyond your ego, the more courage and focus you'll be able to maintain. When your energy is no longer being drained by your ego, that energy becomes available to do wondrous things. When you step away from being so consumed with yourself, you step up to a higher level of experience and achievement. Take that step up. Go beyond yourself and fulfill the very best of your possibilities. -- Ralph Marston |
Title: Re: EGO Post by kr_eden on 08.01.2004 at 21:23:19 Kdor se večno vrti okoli svojega jaza, ostane pritlikav. Morda v življenju ne bo storil nič slabega. Pa tudi resnično dobrega ne. Franc Sodja |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Kali on 22.01.2004 at 15:53:35 Petra. wrote on 22.01.2004 at 15:52:02:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by Kreden. on 23.01.2004 at 00:51:23 Vas daje EGO ??? Probajte novi JAR |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Kali on 30.01.2004 at 12:17:13 Melvyn Wartella "There's a fellow you might want to look into," said my friend Bob, "He lives somewhat like a hermit and claims to have had an awakening. His name is Mel. He's seems quite a gentleman." A little investigating on my part revealed that Melvyn Wartella is truly a gentleman, remarkably sincere, and definitely profound. Here is an excerpt from our first email exchange: I am, of course, saying to let go of the ego, but mostly I try to point out how the ego came about and what is beyond the ego. If a person really understands the problem they will find their own way back to sanity. I just point in the right direction. Yes, I do want people to understand the ego is unreal, and why. If one really looks at the whole process within themselves and others it becomes clear this is true. It isn't really a method as just a way to help the native wisdom that we all have to become more active in people's lives. People do come to me for guidance and help. Back in the 70's and 80's there were more people coming to me but they were mostly interested in getting over some problem they were dealing with. Then when things were good I wouldn't hear from them again until their world fell apart again. They were not serious about awakening. So I spent a long time of just relating with the few who came along who were serious, they are rare. I have been told by many that what I have shared with them has helped change their lives for the better. Many now understand the problem we all have faced, yet only about two have had anything close to a real awakening. But I find that true of most teachers. I, at this time don't have meetings but I am open to it if some serious people come along. I mostly deal with people on the Internet. I also live in an area where there aren't many people. The few who are into the spiritual seem to be more into a traditional path than what I offer. After this email, Mel was kind enough to submit to my less-than-polished interviewing skills: Q: Is it important for an individual to have an awakening? A: Yes, it is important. If one, even intellectually, sees how the ego process distorts just about all of our perceptions and keeps one in a state of insecurity, then it becomes very clear that we all need to awaken. Our relationships, both with individuals and other societies are just about always hurt by the egocentric insecurity most people live with. We can't hope for the end of wars on this planet unless we come to see the madness the ego causes. The greed caused by that insecurity will in time destroy our environment. Awakening is getting well, sane, and becoming a true individual, undivided,whole. Q: Do you see a purpose to life? A: Yes, very much so. Here again the ego can distort reality. What the ego sees as a purpose will be based on its relationship to life. It will look for a purpose that has the promise of continuing to be what it thinks it is. That has no purpose. That is the dreamer trying to find justification to go on dreaming. But real purpose doesn't really come up if we are seeing clearly. Life is the purpose of Life. The living, which is expressing the highest form of creative animal this planet has ever known, is enough. Being Life Itself is enough. One can go deeper into this, though it is not really needed, and point to something quite profound. That is we are evolving into a state of being where we will realize our true creative potential which has no limits. Right now, we see the mind/body connection clearly, but it is only the start. We will someday see it isn't mind/body as much as it is mind/Mind. We live in a mental universe that can be expressed in an apparent material form. Most of us are at the baby stage of this process. When the ego has been seen through then the evolutionary process is accelerated. We become what we always were, that very process of creativity that is the Universe. The ego dream has cut us off, at least in the dream, from our true Being. When one awakens, we don't just all of a sudden go to the front of the line of creative evolution. There are habits of the ego process that go on for some time, but the awake person understands this and even with some baggage still being carried, there is freedom. Q: What is the purpose of your life? A: Life is all the purpose I need. To express what life is trying to express is enough. As people awaken, part of that process is seeing clearly what the problem was. With that insight, there is a natural draw towards others to help them see. One knows there are only going to be a few who are ready to understand. Therefore, you don't push anyone. It all has to unfold naturally. But with the problems the world is facing now, there is a clear need to accelerate the process as much as one can. Q: You did not "meditate, chant, or follow any religion." You did not have a teacher. What did you do on your search? A: From early childhood, I was drawn to try to understand why people were so violent and hateful. That need to understand grew deeper as the years went by. I didn't trust anyone, so there was nowhere for me to turn except to my own mind. I just watched what was going on in me and around me. Sometimes it was very conscious, sometimes not. Q: You mentioned living a counter-culture lifestyle. Did drugs play any role in your search? A: During my hippie years I wasn't into drugs as most of my friends were. I did try LSD a few times and it was interesting. What I saw made it clear I was on the right track in how I was going about trying to understand. I had hopes at first that LSD could be used as an important tool in the evolution of humans, and I still feel for the right person at the right time in their lives it can help. However, it can also hurt, so I would never promote its use. Also, as I questioned my friends about their experiences with it, it became clear that few of them saw what I did. With out the legwork I had done to prepare for its use most would not see that deeply into life. All of the meaningful insights I was lucky to have had did not come from any drug. My psychedelic period was for only about a year. I saw it was not taking me any deeper, so why do it? Q: You say, "We cannot be fully free of all this suffering until we awaken from the dream of ego. No matter what we do to free ourselves it will be useless. We can turn to religion, which will also be useless, being based in ego/insecurity. Nothing you identify with can free you. This process will go on until you die unless you can find it in yourself and see it with such clarity that it comes to an end." How does one begin, step by step? A: By finding out what the problem is. Once we fully understand the problem our native wisdom will take over. You will begin to see how it is expressed in a million ways within yourself and all the others around you. As that clarity deepens, the ego will be seen so clearly that at some moment when we are not looking for it, the mind just turns on itself and you will find you are awake. By the continual state of attention to what is going on, you are painting the ego into a corner. When it cannot move anywhere because it is seen for what it is, then freedom is at hand. Q: Isn't there a more concrete step? A: There is no step by step, unless you call attention and observation steps. Have I not made it clear that one should observe the way the mind works? If you do watch this whole process then the mind can come to a deeper level, which is wisdom. It is beyond the mere using of the brain to re-enforce the ego. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Kali on 30.01.2004 at 12:17:34 nadaljevanje od zgoraj: Q: Is there anything within me that is not ego? A: Yes, your character, your creativity, your wisdom, your living energy, your capacity to love and care for others, your sense of wonder, all the joy and happiness you feel and express and the miracle of perception, to mention a few things beyond the ego that we all have build in. The ego is just a distorting process of misidentification that causes one to misalign with the flow of the Life Force that we truly are. The ego is nothing. Just as any dream is nothing in itself. Though it may cause fear, hatred, violence and insecurity, it is still only a dream. What we are as human beings is a marvelous wonder. So much of that wonder is blocked by the invisible wall of ego. The Universe is an infinite/timeless living wonder and we are one with It. Never feel bad because you feel you have an ego. You don't have one; no one has ever had one because it does not exist. Q: Are there signposts to let me know I'm on the right track? A: Yes, clarity. As the mind starts to really understand there come lightness, as sense of poise and balance that one did not have before. However, there will also be times of fear and dread, which should be welcomed and faced. That is the ego fearing the end of the dream. Not that the ego knows it is dreaming, or is the dream, but a subconscious sense of doom starts to be felt. This is the time to look ever more clearly, but also a time to be quiet. Q: Did you ever get sidetracked on your search? A: Yes, many times. Then one gets drawn back in to the questioning and feels refreshed with new energy to go deeper. Getting sidetracked is okay, even healthy at times. It gives what you have learned a chance to be digested. However, once you really start to look into all of this, you can't go back. Q: It looks like it took about 14 years from your first profound realization till the ego-death. Could this have been sped up? A: From the first Satori until the full ego death was about 8 years. The insights before that were powerful, but they were not a true awakening at the deeper level. As to what could have sped up the process: I don't know if it could have been sped up? Each new insight led to the next and an almost infinite flow of subtleties in between. However, if I had known someone who really understood, was awake, and had the problem pointed out clearly, it may have saved time. But I was not into trusting any other mind but the one I had to work with. Q: Is there any particular lifestyle you feel more conducive to the search? It sounds like you lived pretty close to nature. A: It is far easier to look into life if your life is pretty simple, mine was. I made sure it was and was happy to live that simply. Being close to nature has always helped me to focus and let go. Yet, I was dealing with being a parent, a husband and all the day to day things most of us deal with, but on a smaller scale. If you can, be where you are happy, or as happy as one can be in these times. If you have a friend or two to talk with who also has an interest in understanding, that can help. However, we have to do the looking wherever we are, doing whatever we have to do. I can see that I could have been in a city and very busy and still learned a great deal. It is really difficult to say what anyone should or should not do. If the will to understand is strong enough, you will see, understand, and awaken. But do go into the wilderness whenever you can. Even if that wilderness is in a city park. Q: There is the very strong presence in your writing of concern for this planet. I assume this is an experiential conclusion and not the result of conditioning? A: It is neither a conclusion nor conditioning. It is a fact that this planet is in big trouble. Q: Is this a feeling on your part that all life is special since "you" are all life (as recognized in your awakening), so you must protect life? A: It isn't a feeling. It is a realization of the fact that life is one and I can't feel separate from it. If you see your house is on fire, you act. Q: I think what I'm driving at is: are not death and destruction just as much a part of creativity and life as evolution is? A: Yes, death and destruction is a part of creativity and life as evolution. Before the development of the ego and the destruction caused by that process, this planet was in perfect balance. Humankind's seeming separation from the wholeness of life has completely thrown off that balance. It is very evident what this has done to the natural world, which includes us. Q: What is death? Do you know what death will mean for Mel? A: Death doesn't exist as most people think it does. Life is change, death is just part of life. When one awakens you realize there is only one Life and you are It. Not as the personal you, ego, but Life Itself. There is the death of the dreamer who feels he/she is separate from Life, but that isn't really death. However, it is the only death you will know. As for Mel? That has already died. The body will someday run out of steam and disintegrate. So what? I am not the body and I am not in the body. The body is in what I am. There is no loss. For more Mel, visit his website: http://www.friendsofreality.org/ |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 08.05.2004 at 22:07:14 wrote on 08.05.2004 at 15:22:29:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by Rose on 08.05.2004 at 22:14:34 DaBi, mislim, da so te prestavl, nevermind about that, mene zanima, ali so ti simptomi le prehodna faza in kaj se pol zgodi, simptomi zginejo, in kaj je pol. Tko k berem jih mam 8 od 12ih. :) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 08.05.2004 at 22:17:20 Mae wrote on 08.05.2004 at 22:14:34:
to zgoraj je samo kopija (quote) for my (and yours) reference |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Rose on 08.05.2004 at 22:20:09 Vse OK. :) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by DaBi on 09.05.2004 at 11:45:28 teh 12 znakov ..pred spanjem mi ja kapnilo da je to prestavljeno sem ker so tudi ti znaki, ko so, ego sranje, ki kriči in opozarja nase, ..tu se še močno drži in upira. :hm Valda.. ..ne vem zakaj se mi je včeraj pred spanjem to zdela topla voda? :-/ |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 09.05.2004 at 14:16:21 wrote on 09.05.2004 at 11:45:28:
skopiru sm to sm zato ker je kulj textič in predvsem mi je kulj tole: V vas je tihi del, ki želi Domov. Glavni razlog za to je čisto preprost. Zaključili ste svoj karmični krog. Izpolnili ste svojo pogodbo za to življenje. Pripravljeni ste začeti novo življenje še v tem telesu. Med tem procesom tranzicije imate notranji spomin, kako je biti na drugi strani. Ali ste pripravljeni se zapisati za novo nalogo tukaj na Zemlji? Ali ste pripravljeni prevzeti izziv prehoda v Novo Energijo? Res, lahko bi šli Domov v tem trenutku. Vendar ste prišli tako daleč in po mnogih, mnogih življenjih bi bilo škoda oditi pred koncem filma. Poleg tega vas Duh potrebuje tukaj, da boste pomagali drugim pri prehodu v novo energijo. Potrebovali bodo človeškega vodnika, kot ste vi, ki je prepotoval iz stare energije v novo. Pot, po kateri hodite v tem trenutku, vam zagotavlja izkušnje, da lahko postanete Učitelj Novega Božanskega Člvoeka. Kakor je že vaše potovanje včasih osamljeno in temno, ne pozabite, da nikoli niste sami. niti pod razno ni vse na tem threadu na temo ega ... precej je tud na temo super ega - višjega jaza ... ego je namreč samo ogledalo višjega jaza ... in skozi enega lahko spoznaš drugega ... Petra. wrote on 10.05.2004 at 13:05:23:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by DaBi on 09.05.2004 at 14:21:25 Ni panike, ..je pa(č) blisknilo.. ;) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Rose on 09.05.2004 at 16:36:17 gape wrote on 09.05.2004 at 14:16:21:
Ja, res je kulj textič, da ti gre kar na jok :'( , skladno s 3/12 točko. ;) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by DaBi on 09.05.2004 at 16:41:17 :) |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 23.08.2004 at 10:21:55 Devi wrote on 23.08.2004 at 09:23:54:
Devi wrote on 21.07.2004 at 11:20:23:
Devi wrote on 27.08.2004 at 15:44:34:
V vsakem trenutku teče skozi vašo glavo tok energije. To je miselni proces. Ne prosimo vas, da ga poskušajte ustaviti ali da izbirajte, katere misli gredo skozi vašo glavo, kajti v resnici nimate nobene kontrole nad tem, katere misli gredo skozi vašo glavo. Ste del miselnega procesa, ki si ga delijo v vseh energijah vsepovsod. A imate popolno kontrolo nad tem, katere misli ostanejo v vaši glavi. Sedem sekund. Obdržite misel v svoji glavi za več kot sedem sekund in vaša je. Obdelujte to misel, verjemite v to misel in se bo izrazila. Ali je to preveč enostavno, da bi razumeli? Če želite, lahko naredimo to bolj zapleteno, kajti to je proces. Držati čisto misel v vaši glavi je zelo enostavno. Izziv je, da še niste postali dovolj gospodarji svojih misli, da bi se zavedali, kaj teče skozi vašo glavo in kaj izbirate. m wrote on 30.08.2004 at 07:53:25:
http://www.gape.org/geeklog/public_html/article.php/20040826112706632 Quote:
http://www.gape.org/geeklog/public_html/article.php?story=20040830155748712 pa še japka wrote on 29.10.2004 at 22:09:32:
japka wrote on 29.10.2004 at 21:07:21:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by Madan Gopal Das on 16.09.2004 at 14:59:28 Q. What are the means by which one can eliminate the ego? If for example I am insulted, what is the difference between egoism and maintaining one's dignity? A. Our ego is our sense of identity arising from association with matter. When we associate with matter we think of ourselves in terms of its limitations. However, because we are consciousness and not matter we also sense that the fullness of life involves mastery over matter. Spiritual discipline is the true means to gain this mastery, and it involves transcending the material sense of identity, our ego, altogether. In the Krsna bhakti tradition our discipline involves the cultivation of our actual identity, a byproduct of which is transcendence of our material ego. When we chant the name of Krsna, we do so with the aim of being engaged in his service, identifying our self as a servant of God, rather than as a slave to our mind and senses. While the mind and senses may dictate an agenda for us, we must consider whether following that agenda is in the interest of serving God. This ongoing determination and the struggle to identify with God's service over the demands of the mind and senses is the heart of spiritual practice for beginners. When we accept that which is favorable for Krsna's service and reject that which is unfavorable disregarding what the mind and senses dictate is favorable or unfavorable, we tread the first step of saranagati (surrender). This saranagati is the stage on which the drama of Krsna lila is performed. Our role in that transcendental drama constitutes our real identity, and when we realize this identity over time our material ego will be retired as if it were nothing more than a dream. To live and breath in pursuit of this is to live a life of self dignity. Otherwise in a general sense we should try not to react to personal insults and succumb to the level of those who insult us. This is the dignified position to take. Hari bol. |
Title: Re: EGO Post by Kali on 24.10.2004 at 16:07:38 Ego vs Higher Guidance The more aware we become, the more intuition develops for us. The more we can access our intuition, the faster we grow and change. The key is to understand the language of intuition. How can you tell if the 'inner voice' is Spirit's, other beings, other people's projections or your own judgmental thoughts? The tips below will help you discriminate and discern the TRUTH. Read the list over often and get a strong sense of how to discern higher guidance. Expand your inventory of how you sense the higher or lower information that comes into your physical and non-physical senses. Lower Levels of Information ----------------- Higher Levels of Intuition (Ego)-------------------------------------------------- (Higher Self) demand obedience or surrender - suggest, advise, you make your own decisions conflict with one's personal ethics ------- no conflict with personal ethics create fear, negativity --------------- create love, inspiration,empowerment are generalities, long winded ----- are relevant, short, intelligent, unique are conditional ------------------- are unconditional, appropriate, natural appeal to curiosity, ego ----------------- appeal to goodwill, beauty, unity from confusing, competing voices ---------- from still, single knowing voice affirm ultimate authority for itself ----- counsel surrender to higher power require no personal effort --------------------------- need personal effort guidance from subconscious -------------------------- guidance from the Soul emotional desires, glamour ----------------------- higher spiritual guidance benefit the receiver ------------------------- benefit the good of the whole fixed interpretations ------------------------ many levels of interpretation create dependencies --------------------------------- create interdependence promote separation ----------------------- reflect oneness, wholeness, unity are self conscious ------------------------------------- are other conscious affirm mediocrity ------------------------------ promote making a difference reflect a part of the whole ------------------------------ reflect the whole are emotional, mental ---------------------------------------- are intuitive focus on things -------------------------------- focus on essence and values result in loss of self ---------------------------- result in self discovery focus on desires, wants -------------------------------- focus on soul needs address individual --------------------------------------- address community deal with form ----------------------------------- deal with symbols, truths concerned with self will ------------------------------- reflect divine will create victims -------------------------------------- require accountability are sporadic ----------------------------------------------- are disciplined create stress ----------------------------------------- create peace of mind are personal ------------------------------------------------ are impersonal are restrictive ---------------------------------------------- are expansive are particular ----------------------------------------------- are universal are controlling ----------------------------------------------- are allowing focus on self -------------------------------------- focus on others or Soul focus on destination -------------------------------------- focus on process are exclusive ------------------------------------------------ are inclusive are judging -------------------------------------------------- are accepting are scattered -------------------------------------------------- are focused are limited -------------------------------------------------- are unlimited focus on material --------------------------------------- focus on spiritual are reactive ------------------------------------------------- are proactive are concrete -------------------------------------------------- are abstract focus on past, future ----------------------------------------- focus on NOW deal with personality ----------------------------------------- concern SOUL produce inertia -------------------------------------------- generate growth stuff in ---------------------------------------------------------- draw out focus on quantity ----------------------------------------- focus on quality are selfish ------------------------------------------------- are altruistic are superficial --------------------------------------------------- are deep create resistance ---------------------------------------------- create flow focus on lack ------------------------------------------- focus on abundance are static ----------------------------------------------------- are dynamic focus on ME ---------------------------------------------- focus on humanity create illusion ----------------------------------------------- reveal truth focus on work --------------------------------------------- focus on service focus on mine ---------------------------------------------- focus on Spirit use force -------------------------------------------------------- use power focus on effect --------------------------------------------- focus on cause take ------------------------------------------------------------------ give produce fear ----------------------------------------------- experience love emphasize doing -------------------------------------------- emphasize being http://www.astrostar.com/articles/EgovsHigherGuidance.htm |
Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 06.11.2004 at 17:26:13 japka wrote on 06.11.2004 at 17:02:47:
wrote on 16.11.2004 at 09:09:28:
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gape wrote on 29.11.2004 at 10:02:25:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 26.12.2004 at 12:47:15 Quote:
http://www.gape.org/gapes/magicne_kretnje.htm#sestosredisce ta napeljava je ego napejana pa je v umu zarad vzorcev ki smo jih sprejel vase zato je tuja napelljava skineš jo lahko edin tko da popedenaš nižja središča - egoHome drgač ... še mal materila k je glih u jedro zdejle Mateja B. wrote on 23.12.2004 at 14:08:32:
Madan Gopal Das wrote on 17.12.2004 at 09:54:51:
wrote on 05.02.2004 at 13:23:34:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 21.06.2005 at 17:22:42 sporočilo od Mojstra: Detachment is getting rid of the self. Attachment is seeing the self as at the centre of the world. Detachment is forgetting that there is a centre of the world and that it is us. Detachment is using the physical, astral and mental equipment to express the soul, as far as we possibly can. How do we do that? Through creativity. Not by saying: "I am the soul, I am the soul! I must spread my soul light, my intuition, my knowledge, my wisdom!" That is glamour*; we are still at the centre of the universe. Instead, we become impersonal. We hardly think about ourselves in that sense. We are not struggling with ourself to do this or do that. We are struggling with the work - to get it out, to make it known, to get work done in time for a deadline. It is the work, the reaching out, the meditation, the study, the growing awareness, the winding up of the spiritual clock, the spiritual spring. That is only possible if we work in a detached way. Maitreya advocates honesty of mind, sincerity of spirit, and detachment. The greatest of these is detachment. We can only be truly honest in our mind if we are detached. We can only be sincere in our spirit when we are detached. Of course, we can only be detached when we are sincere in spirit and honest in mind. These three work together, but they arrive at detachment - detachment from wrong identification: never thinking that this body is the Self of that our emoutions are true. Our emotions are never true. We think our emotions are not only real but that they are justified and the truest thing we could possibly feel at the time. No emotion is real; it is a dream. These fantasies are never true. Emotion is a fantasy, a glamour of the astral planes, in which we are floating as in sleep. We think that our emotions are true and real, and that this body is real. If you could see your body from the angle of the soul, you would see it as transparent, like an image on a cinema screen. All of physical-plane life is a cinema screen, and we know how real is the cinema screen. While we are entranced, we take it to be real. Essentially, it is a flat screen with images of 'life' thrown on it; it is not real. Least real of all are our emotions, our feelings - those precious feelings of anger, disappointment, self-pity and the rest. |
Title: Re: EGO - Poklic: duhovni učitelj, jasnovidec... Post by gape on 03.08.2005 at 11:00:36 Poklic: duhovni učitelj, jasnovidec... Mnogim ljudem je jasno, da je človek sestavljen iz telesa (osebnosti), duše (psihe) in duha. Pa vendar, kljub temu ljudje tako zlahka zamenjujemo med enim in drugim. Osebnost zlahka zamenjamo za dušo in tudi dušo za duha. Iz tega sledi, da tudi v večini ne znamo razlikovati med psihizmi (psihičnimi močmi - v indijski filozofiji imenovanimi siddhiji) in duhovnostjo (darovi Duha in karizmami). Tako rado se zgodi, da ljudje kak psihizem poimenjujejo karizma, čeprav z duhom in duhovno zrelostjo to v resnici nima prav nobene povezave. Psihične moči, kot so jasnovidnost, jasnoslišnost, telekineza, hipnoza, prekognicija... se udejanjajo prek simpatičnega živčevja, kar pomeni, da to izvira iz našega živalskega telesa in nas v tem prekaša večina kitov in morskih psov, posebno pa še vrste hobotnic. Vse te zaznave namreč pritekajo skozi razum in še vedno ostajajo pripete na svet dvojnosti, medtem ko gre pa resnično pri darovih Duha za svet enosti (prek cerebro - spinalnega sistema). Zaradi na različen način sproženih ali pridobljenih (pridelanih) psihičnih moči, se osebnost marsikdaj domišljavo napihne, zato duhovni razvoj takšnega posameznika zastane. Kljub temu pa to ljudi privlači in psihiki (razni 'jasnovidci', bioenergetiki, 'duhovni učitelji'...) tudi pri nas, kot po svetu to spretno izrabljajo za izboljšanje svojega osebnostega (čast, slava, cenjenost...) ali materialnega (denar, oblast) statusa, ki jim ga omogočajo nič hudega sluteči sledilci, podporniki in častilci. S tem tudi njih zadržujejo v ne-napredku in jih na nek način naredijo odvisne od sebe, ali pa samo izžamejo za kakšen tolar. Človekova psihična sposobnost, pa nikoli v resnici ni merilo za njegovo duhovnost. In niti v svoji najvišji obliki ne vodi v duhovnost sama po sebi. Če pa človek ne razvija duhovnost, ter se zgolj zadovoljuje z psihizmi v tem materialnem svetu, pa ga na žalost čakajo hude mentalne, čustvene in telesne težave, ki so neizogibne, če se psihične moči razvijejo v topli gredi sebičnosti in strasti. Edino jamstvo je duhovno življenje, v katerem se človek resnično odpove lastnemu interesu v dobro vseh. In ni dovolj o tem le razumsko razmišljati, ter si predstavljati, da tako tudi zares živimo, potrebno je tudi zares zaživeti z duhovno močjo, ki prihaja iz srca. Duhovnost se običajno razume kot čistost življenja, odsotnost egocentričnega delovanja, ter sočutje in ljubezen do vsega kar je in biva. Psihično zavedanje je veliko ožje od duhovnega in s tem še vedno omejeno na svet dvojnosti. Predstavlja napeto območje med polom duha in polom telesa. Je bojno polje življenja. In vase zaverovan psihik se le redko svojih omejenosti tudi zares zaveda, saj je žal prepričan, da je tisto, kar vidi in sliši popolnoma pravilno in resnično, pa če prav ničesar ne govori temu v prid. To je njegova tragedija in posledično tragedija vseh, ki mu sledijo. Zatorej, razmislimo o duhovnih vrlinah skupaj in redno očiščujmo vse odklone. Katarina http://www.pozitivke.net/article.php/20050729214002804 **** gape wrote on 25.12.2005 at 11:38:58:
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Title: Re: EGO Post by gape on 15.12.2014 at 01:56:14 “Consciousness Creates Reality” – Physicists Admit The Universe Is Immaterial, Mental & Spiritual¸ the observer creates the reality the universe is a “mental” construction the universe begins to look more like a great thought than like a great machine The universe is immaterial-mental and spiritual. The quantum double slit experiment “We are what we think, all that we are arises with our thoughts, with our thoughts we make the world.” – Gautama Buddha http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/11/11/consciousness-creates-reality-physicists-admit-the-universe-is-immaterial-mental-spiritual/ |
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