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Reply #30 - 10.01.2004 at 15:35:47
Petra. wrote on 10.01.2004 at 15:32:59:
   There is a River - Statement by the Hopi Elders


   There is a river flowing very fast. It is so swift that there are those who will be afraid. They will try to hold on to the shore. They will feel that they are being torn apart and will suffer greatly. Know that the river has a destination. The Elders say we must let go of the shore, push off into the middle of the river.

   Keep our eyes open and our heads above the waters. And I say, see who is in there with you and Celebrate! At this time in history we are to take nothing personally, least of all ourselves. For the moment we do, our spiritual growth comes to a halt. The time of the lone wolf is over. Gather your self’s together. Banish the word Struggle from your attitude and vocabulary. All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner and in Celebration!

   This profound statement and advice based upon ancient prophecy is obviously valid for these times but how does one do this push off into the swift river?

   "What you put your attention on is what you become conscious of."

   This is the one rule that you cannot break. It is inescapable. So let's use this principle to our advantage.

  The Mayan calendar has now been scientifically proven to be the flow rate of all of Creation for the last 16.4 billion years. By placing your attention on the individual daily energies described by the Mayan calendar you’re "Tun-ing" your consciousness to the flow of all of Creation. (The River)

   This is what the Mayan civilization had going for it. They lived their lives in "Holy Time" intuitively flowing with creation.

   Yes, they knew that their civilization would come to an end. Just as the flower wilts and dies to become the fruit and seeds, the Maya knew and prophesized their own demise. If nothing dies, nothing new grows, and this they did know. We feel this as well. Deeply we understand that our current systems and standards must die for a new way of life and experience to flourish.

   It is your choice of course, flow or be drowned. You already know this is true.

   The Mayan Calendar and Conversion Codex is the simplest method to find and re-find the current Mayan calendar date from the Gregorian calendar and contains the true traditional meanings of the energies from the Kiche Mayan priests. It can be used to instantly find a personal birth energy and true purpose of your life this time around. Also, it presents a daily Mayan Oracle to assist your journey to your goals.

   A tool for consciousness to join the flow of Creation is and was always the true purpose of the Mayan Calendar.

   Here is your opportunity
   To get Tun-ed in,
   To the Tzolkin,
   To join the harmony,
   To heal our Mother,
   To join the Galactic community,
   As warmly loved,
   And loving, Sister / Brother.

   Welcome to the Evolution

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Reply #31 - 10.01.2004 at 15:45:46
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Reply #32 - 10.01.2004 at 18:14:36
The Mayan scared calendar, The Tzolkin, describes the timing of every cycle we can detect. From an electron's frequency of orbit around its nucleus, to the musical scale, to our own 26,000 year orbit known as the procession of equinoxes, this calendar system does it all. This marvelous ancient invention actually weaves the Binary and the Fibernaci sequences together. These two number sequences have been shown to be the base patterns for all of biology and chemistry. The Mayan sacred calendar called the Tzolkin, blends these frequencies into a ratio of 13:20. Our physical existence on this planet is tied directly to the ratio of 13:20. There are 13 cycles of the moon in one year. The human reproduction cycle follows this moon cycle. 13 is the number of major joints in your body. You have 20 fingers and toes. There are 20 different amino acids that make up the codons of your DNA. 13 x 20 = 260. There are 260 days in the Tzolkin calendar. 260 days are 9 months, the gestation period of the human being. Your own study of the Mayan calendar would unfold many more examples then we have the time or space to mention here.

Suffice it to say, these Maya guys "got somthin goin on" with their calendar. By simply following the days on the Mayan calendar, you become entrained or synchronized, with the natural cycles that are timed by this calendar. When the Sacred Tzolkin is connected to the Mayan Divine calendar of 360 days called the "Tun", (tune) the cycles of the Creation itself are displayed. Thus your time becomes more natural and less mechanical. No sweat, no strain, just a flow of attention on what day it is. You will naturally start to notice more and more of these cycles. The Mayan calendar was left here for us to use. It is a tool, to gently and naturally recalibrate our mindset for the changes we all feel must come if life is to continue on this planet.


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Reply #33 - 15.02.2004 at 15:39:39
The Mayan Calendar   http://www.awakening-healing.com/A-HNewsLetters/2003/Mayan_Calender.htm

"CARLOS BARRIOS was born into a Spanish family on El Altiplano, the
highlands of Guatemala. His home was in Huehuetenango, also the dwelling
place of the Maya Mam tribe. With other Maya and other indigenous tradition
keepers, the Mam carry part of the old ways on Turtle Island (North
America). They are keepers of time, authorities on remarkable calendars that
are ancient, elegant and relevant.

"Mr. Barrios is a historian, an anthropologist and investigator. After
studying with traditional elders for 25 years since the age of 19, he has
also became a Mayan Ajq'ij, a ceremonial priest and spiritual guide, Eagle Clan.

"Years ago, along with his brother, Gerardo, Carlos initiated an
investigation into the different Mayan calendars. He studied with many
teachers. He says his brother Gerardo interviewed nearly 600 traditional
Mayan elders to widen their scope of knowledge.

"Anthropologists visit the temple sites," Mr. Barrios says, "and read the
steles and inscriptions and make up stories about the Maya, but they do not
read the signs correctly. It's just their imagination... Other people write
about prophecy in the name of the Maya. They say that the world will end in
December 2012. The Mayan elders are angry with this. The world will not end.
It will be transformed. The indigenous have the calendars, and know how to
accurately interpret it, not others."

"The Mayan Calendars comprehension of time, seasons, and cycles has proven
itself to be vast and sophisticated. The Maya understand 17 different
calendars, some of them charting time accurately over a span of more than
ten million years. The calendar that has steadily drawn global attention
since 1987 is called the Tzolk'in or Cholq'ij. Devised ages ago and based on
the cycle of the Pleiades, it is still held as sacred. With the indigenous
calendars, native people have kept track of important turning points in
history. For example, the daykeepers who study the calendars identified an
important day in the
year One Reed, Ce Acatal, as it was called by the Mexicans. That was the day
when an important ancestor was prophesied to return, "coming like a
butterfly." In the western calendar, the One Reed date correlates to Easter
Sunday, April 21, 1519 the day that Hernando Cortez and his fleet of 11
Spanish galleons arrived from the East at what is today called Vera Cruz,

"When the Spanish ships came toward shore, native people were waiting and
watching to see how it would go. The billowing sails of the ships did indeed
remind the scouts of butterflies skimming the ocean surface. In this manner
was a new era initiated, an era they had anticipated through their
calendars. The Maya termed the new era the Nine Bolomtikus, or nine Hells of
52 years each. As the nine cycles unfolded, land and freedom were taken from
the native people. Disease and disrespect dominated. What began with the
arrival of Cortez, lasted until August 16, 1987 - a date many people recall
as Harmonic Convergence. Millions of people took advantage of that date to
make ceremony in sacred sites, praying for a smooth transition to a new era, the
World of the Fifth Sun.

"From that 1987 date until now, Mr. Barrios says, we have been in a time
when the right arm of the materialistic world is disappearing, slowly but
inexorably. We are at the cusp of the era when peace begins, and people live
in harmony with Mother Earth. We are no
longer in the World of the Fourth Sun, but we are not yet in the World of
the Fifth Sun. This is the time in-between, the time of transition.

"As we pass through transition there is a colossal, global convergence of
environmental destruction, social chaos, war, and ongoing Earth changes.

"All this, Mr. Barrios says, was foreseen via the simple, spiral mathematics
of the Mayan calendars. "It will change," Mr. Barrios observes.

"Everything will change." He said Mayan Daykeepers view the Dec. 21, 2012
date as a rebirth, the start of the World of the Fifth Sun. It will be the
start of a new era resulting from and signified by the solar meridian
crossing the galactic equator, and the earth aligning itself with the center
of the galaxy.

"At sunrise on December 21, 2012 for the first time in 26,000 years the Sun
rises to conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the
ecliptic. This cosmic cross is considered to be an embodiment of the Sacred
Tree, The Tree of Life, a tree remembered in all the world's spiritual
traditions. Some observers say this alignment with the heart of the galaxy
in 2012 will open a channel for cosmic energy to flow through the earth,
cleansing it and all that dwells upon it, raising all to a higher level of vibration.

"This process has already begun, Mr. Barrios suggested.

" Change is accelerating now, and it will continue to accelerate." If the
people of the earth can get to this 2012 date in good shape, without having
destroyed too much of the Earth, Mr. Barrios said, we will rise to a new,
higher level. But to get there we must transform
enormously powerful forces that seek to block the way.

A Picture of the Road Ahead

"From his understanding of the Mayan tradition and the calendars, Mr.
Barrios offered a picture of where we are at and what may lie on the road
ahead: The date specified in the calendar Winter Solstice in the year 2012
does not mark the end of the world. Many outside people writing about the
Mayan calendar sensationalize this date, but they
do not know. The ones who know are the indigenous elders who are entrusted
with keeping the tradition.

"Humanity will continue," he contends, "but in a different way. Material
structures will change. From this we will have the opportunity to be more

"We are living in the most important era of the Mayan calendars and
prophecies. All the prophecies of the world, all the traditions, are
converging now. There is no time for games. The spiritual ideal of this era
is action. Many powerful souls have reincarnated in this era, with a lot of
power.  This is true on both sides, the light and the dark. High magic is at
work on both sides.

"Things will change, but it is up to the people how difficult or easy it is
for the changes to come about. The economy now is a fiction. The first
five-year stretch of transition from August 1987 to August 1992 was the
beginning of the destruction of the material world. We have progressed ten
years deeper into the transition phase by now, and many of the so-called
sources of financial stability are in fact hollow.

"The banks are weak. This is a delicate moment for them. They could crash
globally if we don't pay attention. If the banks crash ... then we will be
forced to rely on the land and our skills. The monetary systems will be in
chaos, and we must then rely on our direct
relationship with the Earth for our food and shelter. The North and South
Poles are both breaking up. The level of the water in the oceans is going to
rise. But at the same time land in the ocean, especially near Cuba, is also
going to rise.

A Call for Fusion

"As he met with audiences, Mr. Barrios told a story about the most recent
Mayan New Year ceremonies in Guatemala. He said that one respected Mam
elder, who lives all year in a solitary mountain cave, journeyed to
Chichicastenango to speak with the people at the ceremony. The elder
delivered a simple, direct message. He called for human beings to come
together in support of life and light. Right now each person and group is
going his or her own way. The elder of the mountains said there is hope if
the people of the light can come together and unite in some way.

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"Reflecting on this, Mr. Barrios explained: "We live in a world of polarity:
day and night, man and woman, positive and negative. Light and darkness need
each other. They are a balance. Just now the dark side is very strong, and
very clear about what they want. They have their vision and their priorities
clearly held, and also their hierarchy. They are working in many ways so
that we will be unable to connect with the spiral Fifth World in 2012 ."

"On the light side everyone thinks they are the most important, that their
own understandings, or their group's understandings, are the key. There's a
diversity of cultures and opinions, so there is competition, diffusion, and
no single focus."

"As Mr. Barrios sees it, the dark side works to block fusion through denial
and materialism. It also works to destroy those who are working with the
light to get the Earth to a higher level. They like the energy of the old,
declining Fourth World, the materialism. They do not want it to change. They
do not want fusion. They want to stay
at this level, and are afraid of the next level.

"The dark power of the declining Fourth World cannot be destroyed or
overpowered. It's too strong and clear for that, and that is the wrong
strategy. The dark can only be transformed when confronted with simplicity
and open-heartedness. This is what leads to fusion, a key concept for the
World of the Fifth Sun.

"Mr. Barrios said the emerging era of the Fifth Sun will call attention to a
much-overlooked element. Whereas the four traditional elements of earth,
air, fire and water have dominated various epochs in the past, there will be
a fifth element to reckon with in the time of the Fifth Sun: ether. The
dictionary defines ether as the rarefied element of the Heavens. Ether is a
medium. It permeates all space and transmits waves of energy in a wide range
of frequencies, from cell phones to human auras. What is "ethereal" is
related to the regions beyond earth: the heavens.

"Ether the element of the Fifth Sun is celestial and lacking in material
substance, but is no less real than wood, stone or flesh. "Within the
context of ether there can be a fusion of the polarities," Mr. Barrios said.
"No more darkness or light in the people, but an uplifted fusion. But right
now the realm of darkness is not interested in this. They are organized to
block it. They seek to unbalance the Earth and its environment so we will be
unready for the alignment in 2012. We need to work together for peace, and
balance with the other side. We need to take care of the Earth that feeds
and shelters us. We need to put our entire mind and heart into pursuing
unity and fusion now, to confront the other side and preserve life."

"To be Ready for this Moment in History Mr. Barrios told his audiences in
Santa Fe that we are at a critical moment of world history. "We are
disturbed," he said. "We can't play anymore. Our planet can be renewed or
ravaged. Now is the time to awaken and take action."

"Everyone is needed. You are not here for no reason. Everyone who is here
now has an important purpose. This is a hard, but a special time. We have
the opportunity for growth, but we must be ready for this moment in

"Mr. Barrios offered a number of suggestions to help people walk in balance
through the years ahead. "The prophesied changes are going to happen," he
said "but our attitude and actions determine how harsh or mild they are."

"We need to act, to make changes, and to elect people to represent us who
understand and who will take political action to respect the earth.
Meditation and spiritual practice are good, but also action.  It's very
important to be clear about who you are, and also about
your relation to the Earth.  Develop yourself according to your own
tradition and the call of your heart.  But remember to respect differences,
and strive for unity. Eat wisely.  A lot of food is corrupt in either subtle
or gross ways. Pay attention to what you are
taking into your body. Learn to preserve food, and to conserve energy.
Learn some good breathing techniques, so you have mastery of your breath.

"Be clear. Follow a tradition with great roots. It is not important what
tradition, your heart will tell you, but it must have great roots. We live
in a world of energy. An important task at this time is to learn to sense or
see the energy of everyone and everything: people, plants, animals.

"This becomes increasingly important as we draw close to the World of the
Fifth Sun, for it is associated with the element ether - the realm where
energy lives and weaves. Go to the sacred places of the earth to pray for
peace, and have respect for the Earth which gives us our food, clothing, and
shelter. We need to reactivate the energy of these sacred places. That is
our work.

"According to Mr. Barrios' reading of the Mayan calendar, if war happens in
November 2002 or after, then it's bad, but not catastrophic. But if it
happens between April and November 2003, it will be catastrophic. Really
bad. It could eventually result in the
death of two-thirds of humanity.

"So stay active," he said. "If we are active, we can transform the planet.
The elders watch to see what happens."

"Many Mayan elders and knowledge keepers may be eliminated in the next few
years. For the first half of the current Katun (20-year period) the dark
side has a lot of power. But that will pass 3 to 4 years from now. The tide
will turn. Wonderous things are going to happen.

We Have Work to Do

"According to Mr. Barrios this is a crucially important moment for humanity,
and for earth. Each person is important. If you have incarnated into this
era, you have spiritual work to do balancing the planet. He said the elders
have opened the doors so that other races can come to the Mayan world to
receive the tradition. The Maya have long appreciated and respected that
there are other colors, other races, and other spiritual systems.

"They know," he said, "that the destiny of the Mayan world is related to the
destiny of the whole world."

"The greatest wisdom is in simplicity," Mr. Barrios advised before
departing. "Love, respect, tolerance, sharing, gratitude, forgiveness.

"It's not complex or elaborate. The real knowledge is free. It's encoded in
your DNA. All you need is within you. Great teachers have said that from the
beginning. Find your heart, and you will find your way."
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Reply #35 - 09.05.2004 at 15:59:39

Maya culture 'ahead of its time'
By Julianna Kettlewell
BBC News Online science staff

Professor Estrada-Belli believes the term "pre-classic" is a misnomer
Elaborate ritual objects and carved masks have been uncovered in the ancient ruins of a city in Guatemala.

Exploration of the 2,000-year-old site has caused archaeologists to question the established chronology of the enigmatic Maya civilisation.

The city, Cival, thrived in what is generally considered the "pre-classic" period - but it bore the hallmarks of the more advanced "classic" period.

The excavations were supported by the National Geographic Society.

The ancient city of Cival, in Guatemala's Peten region, was first mapped by the explorer Ian Graham in 1984. Since 2001, it has been the focus of an exhaustive excavation, led by Francisco Estrada-Belli, of Vanderbilt University in Tennessee, US.

His team's discoveries have included two monumental carved masks, 120 pieces of polished jade, a ceremonial centre that spanned 800m (2,600ft) and an inscribed stone slab dating to 300 BC.

Maya deity

Cival had pyramids and a large complex surrounding a central plaza. The buildings were carefully positioned so they faced the sunrise in the equinox. According to Professor Estrada-Belli, this suggests they were used to measure time.

"It had an important astronomical function," Professor Estrada-Belli said. "It's not coincidence that the central axis of the main buildings and the plaza is oriented to sunrise at the equinox."

The lead archaeologist said his most exciting find turned up in a dank tunnel dug in the side of a pyramid.

The stucco may have been the backdrop for a ritual involving the Maya king

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While he was inspecting the tunnel, he reached into a crack in the wall - and felt a curved piece of stucco. Digging to it from the other side, he found a well-preserved giant face of a Maya deity.

The 4.5m by 3m (15ft by 9ft) stucco mask had one eye visible and the mouth squared, with snake's fangs in its centre. "The mask's preservation is astounding," Professor Estrada-Belli said. "It's almost as if someone made this yesterday."

Excavations this April revealed a second, apparently identical, mask on the other side of a set of stairs.

Professor Estrada-Belli believes the masks flanked the staircase of the pyramid that led to the chamber, serving as the backdrop for a ritual involving the Maya king.

Pre-classic or classic?

After several seasons of digging, the researchers believe Cival was one of the largest Maya cities of the time. In its prime - between 150 BC and AD 100 - it had a buzzing population of around 10,000. But it was not just the city's size that made it remarkable.

We thought the pre-classic Maya were a relatively simple society - and they were not
Prof Francisco Estrada-Belli, Vanderbilt University
As the archaeologists learn more about life in the city of Cival, they are finding it does not sit comfortably with existing notions of Mayan civilisation.

Strictly speaking, Cival flourished in the pre-classic period, which stretches from 2000 BC to AD 240. But it was more advanced than pre-classic societies were thought to be.

It had kings, complex iconography, grand palaces, writing and polychrome ceramics: all the hallmarks of the later - and apparently more civilised - classic period.

"It is pretty clear that 'pre-classic' is a misnomer," said Professor Estrada-Belli. "It's very interesting when we reverse some existing ideas. We thought the pre-classic Maya were a relatively simple society - and they were not."

"There was a whole civilization during the pre-classic time we are just beginning to recover," he added.

The artefacts indicate the Mayan society may have been more advanced than first thought
Professor Fred Valdez, a Maya expert from the University of Texas, Austin, is in strong agreement. "These finds show that Maya civilisation advanced earlier than folks have previously thought," he told BBC News Online. "Classic and pre-classic are unfortunate terms in relation to when civilisation was reached.

"There are a significant number of cultural changes that occurred between the two periods - so I don't think the two terms will stop being used - but it needs to be cleared up about when we think Maya society became civilised."

He added: "It needs to be recognised that civilisation was not confined to classic Maya societies. This research has provided a great support to that argument."
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The Gregorian calendar is so dogmatic. Most people have no idea how much we are programmed by a calendar, even people who say, ‘Well I don’t follow a calendar’. Well, a calendar is what programs a society that uses it. It is the most fundamental program that a society has. If you take the calendar away from society, the society ceases to exist really.

So you’re suggesting that perhaps a change of the current calendar may help humanity is some way?

Yes, I think the point is, it will improve humanity. It will be of the greatest benefit to humanity to start getting its mind from a deformed state to a harmonic state and that’s the whole point. So, we’re promoting that, and what we’re looking at is the Great Calendar Change of 2004, which is not too far away. We’re looking at July 25 and 26, 2004 as the big moment to pass through this moment in time.

Wow, that’s a pretty aggressive schedule you must have?

Yes it is, but you know we’ve been on the schedule for a while. I first became aware of this problem with the calendar back in 1988 or 1989. I had written a book called The Mayan Factor back in 1987 based on the Mayan calendar. Then when I started trying to put the Mayan calendar into the present time I saw it had real problems because the Gregorian calendar is not harmonic like the Mayan calendar is. Then in 1989, I made the discovery of the 12:60 frequency.

The mechanical clock is based on 12, and the 12-month calendar, of course is also based on 12.

12 is a number that has to do with space, and you’ll see how the programming is, you cant’ go anywhere, remember every school classroom has a round clock. Every office you walk into has a round clock on the wall. What is that? You’re looking at a 2 dimensional plane - a circle. A 2 dimensional plane in space with these little hands… (laughs)

(Laughs) Right.

…going around and around. It’s divided into 12 parts, because it’s a 360 degree thing, so 12 goes into 360 30 times. You have this thing; it’s measurement of space. What’s that got to do with time? Those little hands going around this thing in space. That’s not time. People are hypnotized by that. They think that’s time. So I looked at that this and thought, ‘This is all wrong’, and realized that the whole civilization is based on an error in time. This error in time: thinking that time is based on the number 12, the hands going around the clock, and a calendar that is totally irregular, illogical and absurd.

The combination of this calendar and the mechanical clock create a state of mind or consciousness, which we refer to as the 12:60 frequency: the 12-month calendar and the 60-minute mechanical hour. The 12-month calendar is irrational and the 60-minute hour is mechanistic. So you have a civilization that is a totally irrational civilization based on the mechanization of everything. That just creates a messed up species.

And we’re still living in the Babylonian Conspiracy. Why is the number 13 superstitious? It’s the biggest superstition that we have in this civilization. A guy named Jonathan Cott, who writes for Rolling Stone, he wrote a book called 13: A Journey Into the Number. Tridecaphobia is fear of the number 13. Why is that? Because the number 13 represents harmony. It also represents what we might call cosmic harmony, as well as the feminine principle.

13 is a prime number. 12 is a static number, you know 3x4, 4x3, 2x6, interlocking sets, but it doesn’t go anywhere. It’s a number of space, whereas 13 is a number of movement of time. So I believe that the whole thing began, as some type of almost cosmic conspiracy, to establish a male patriarchy that was using a calendar, which eventually was going to be mumbo-jumbo, to confuse and keep the people oppressed and because of this you’ll see when did taxation begin? Where did money come from? You’ll see that they’re all closely related to this idea of a calendar. In fact, the word calendar itself, is a Latin word. The Romans inherited their civilization basically in concepts of war, taxation, and money, from the Babylonians, and the word calendar means account book. The first day of the Roman month was called calends, that’s when you pay your bills.

Right, well I guess it stuck?

Yes, it stuck. Like I said, a calendar is the program that keeps the society in place, and so from the beginning they created this calendar. The Babylonians, the Sumerians, and then later on down to the Romans, created this system of the calendar and used it as way of manipulating people. They invented money and then had people pay taxes.Oh, the Mayan language was recorded in glyphs and …?

Yes, hieroglyphs and things like that, and also just symbols, even beyond language. Plus, I discovered this, OK, here’s this tomb dedicated in 692, nobody knew about its existence until 1952. I’m standing there in 1989, 1990 making this discovery, 12:60 timing frequency, artificial time. Natural timing frequency, if there’s an artificial one there must be a natural one, I discovered is 13:20. That’s the basis of the 260-day cycle, which correlates all synchronicity.

OK, 12:60 and 13:20, and there I am in 1993 with this prophecy, decoding this tomb. OK get this, I realize this tomb was dedicated in 692, and discovered in 1952, 1260 years later, 12:60. 692, when that tomb was dedicated, until 2012, the closing of the cycle, 1320 years, 13:20. So, I said, ‘Oh, I get it, that’s part of the prophecy right there.’ The prophecy says that the discovery of the tomb in 1952 will say that humanity is living in the tomb of 12:60 artificial time. 2012 means that you have from 1952 until 2012, 60 years for humanity to get from 12:60 time to 13:20 time.

(Laughs) Wow.

So, we’re only 10 years away. The 13 Moon Calendar of course is correlated to the 260-day cycle, so it’s a pure 13:20 timing frequency. That’s what is required for humanity to be in that cycle. That’s what’s required by 2012 if we don’t want to destroy ourselves.

Well, that’s good to know, but what did that quote mean about 4 other Long Counts?

Now the Long Count is the count of days. Literally a count of days that goes from August 13, 3113 B.C., and often you’ll see people say 3114 B.C., but August 13, 3113 to December 21, 2012. That is the count of days between those 2 points, which is 1,872,000 days. That creates a cycle, which is subdivided into 13 parts called baktuns, or into 260 parts called katuns, which are about 20 years. The last katun began early in 1993 and ends on December 21, 2012. OK, now when Moises says that there were 4 other ones before that, what he’s saying is that there were 4 other cycles of 13 baktuns prior to this one, which means there were 5 cycles.

And this is the 5th?

Yes, this is the 5th. Those 5 cycles, that creates the 26,000-year cycle. So, even though Moises is pooh-poohing all of that, he’s saying there were 4 previous ones, this is the 5th one. 5 of these cycles create what’s called the Pleiadian cycle of 26,000 years. The fact of the matter is where are at the end of that 26,000 year cycle. Not only that, but we’re at the end of a 5,125-year cycle. We’re at the end of just under a 26,000-year cycle and we’re at the end of a 104,000-year cycle. 4 of those 26,000-year cycles create a bigger cycle of 104,000 years. So, all of this is coming to an end. Even though, Moises says, ‘Oh, nothing will happen, everything is just like the same.’ Well, that’s not quite correct, because we do live in unusual times.

You can go back and look at this 12:60 frequency, the frequency of artificial mechanized time, which was mentally set in place at the very beginning of history. Its interesting that the Mayans say that history began in 3113 B.C. even though there weren’t any Mayans around to tell you that. Then we find out that first city of history, Uruk, was at 3100 B.C. Well that’s just 13 years later and that’s when the Babylonians came up with the 24-hour concept. So, you have the Babylonians in the Old World with this 24-hour concept and you have the Mayans in the New World with this 13:20 concept. So, you can begin to see, well maybe there is some, much larger kind of drama going on.

Can talk about what you think is corresponding to 2012 with the Earth and the Galaxy, as a whole evolution, something bigger happening than just with humanity?

There is something a lot bigger happening, which gets to the point why the Mayans were here. When you look at the globe and see where the Mayans were and see where the Old World and the Babylonian civilization was and you see well they were far away on the other side of the ocean in the jungle there, you couldn’t find them. Just like that tomb of Pakal Votan, you couldn’t find it. Then you see, well, it’s interesting that here was this Mayan civilization that had its hey-day between 435 A.D to about 830 A.D., around 400 years when it really really went to town. What was that about? When you look at that, when they really went to town they were using all these different calendars, creating these very sophisticated sculptures with all these hieroglyphs. You can find dates that go back hundreds of millions of years, or even billions of years, even 25 billion years which is way before even what we say BIG BANG, what was that about?

Where do you see those dates?

In some of the Mayan sites.

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Yes, and you say, ‘Who were these Mayans?’ You look at all the civilizations on Earth; no other civilization comes even close to the Mayan civilization with this phenomenal concept of time. To some degree, the Hindus have great cycles and so on, which rival the Mayans, but no one had the Mayan concept of all the different times or the synchronic order of time, and one other feature is that the Mayan mathematics and calendar is based on 20 and not 10 or 12.


So, the purpose was to leave these signs and clues about the end of the cycle. So they left these clues. People like Pakal Votan left his tomb, which was then actually a prophecy which 40 years later after it was discovered I was able to decode. Already in my book, The Mayan Factor, in 1987, I had already put the 2012 thing on the map and brought that to public attention.

Now I see the Mayan civilization, the Mayan culture, they purposely left this time information for the present moment to see if we could figure out what we have to do. So that’s what I figured out, that we have to get back into the natural time. What happens in 2012, isn’t just a closing out of what we call the cycle of history, it’s also an evolutionary moment in the evolution of the Sun. You have to remember our Sun is a star. All stars have their own progressive stages of evolution and we all know that in the last 15 years the Sun has been acting most peculiarly. It acts more peculiar every day, which is going to be coming more and more dramatic as we get to 2012, which incidentally completes the next Sun spot cycle.

So what you have is an alignment of the Earth and Sun with Galactic Center, which is in the area of Sagittarius. John Major Jenkins has written a book about that, the 2012 galactic synchronization. We’re approaching a moment of tremendous solar and galactic synchronization. Well, what does that mean for us? It means that life on Earth is going to be evolving and mutating. So, we have to be ready for that. This whole artificial junkie civilization, this technosphere, is like a big tinker toy set. It’s going to come down. It’s starting to come down right now. The first big signal was the 9/11. The question is: is it going to come down because of war and natural disasters, which have been engendered by human species operating on wrong time and artificial technology? Or is it going to come down because the human species got the intelligence to figure out that it had to change its frequency?

This gets back to the point of the calendar. It looks like a very simple little device, but the point of it is to change the frequency of human consciousness so that the human consciousness is in tune with the natural cosmic order of reality and in that way it can become in tune with the natural cosmic order in time to be ready for 2012.

That’s why this 2004 date is so critical. Really it’s the last moment, the last opportunity to get the calendar change and to give the human species enough time, it’s like eight years, to shift its consciousness. A lot can happen in eight years if you are in the right frequency. A lot can happen in the wrong frequency too. If we continue eight years after 2004 in the wrong frequency, then your 2012 worst case scenarios are a sure bet.

What are the Foundations plans for once you reach your goal date of 2004? If the 13 Moon Calendar hasn’t been accepted globally?

Well, we’re confident that now, literally, this is an idea who’s time has come. We’ve seen, especially since the 9/11, finally in this country, people waking up to this calendar thing. We have a big movement already throughout Latin America, Japan, Russia, Western Europe, many places on the planet. It’s starting because of the Internet and our Web site.

Yes, it’s exploding!

Yes, it’s exploding. There are probably 150,000 to 200,000 people who actually are following the calendar and that’s increasing greatly. All we really need is an informed critical minority who is able to be properly vocal and vociferous and knows how to use the media when it comes to that point in 2004 to make it effective. We’ve been to the United Nations. We’ve been to the Vatican. Kofi Anan knows very well about our work. I’ve got several letters from his office saying that he has received our material, knows what we are doing and applauds our efforts. But like any other human being in 12:60 institutions, as they say, his hands are tied.

That’s a great point. So by 2004, could it be that X amount of people pick up on the change and X amount of people don’t and then something happens with a division?

Yes, it could be like that. You know, right now because of this impending war on Iraq, you already see a type of groundswell of peace movements occurring unlike anything since the ‘60’s. I think by the time we get to 2004 it will dwarf the ‘60’s and it’s not just demonstrators, but it’s people like James Twyman and his spoon bending experiment and the exercises he’s doing in Jerusalem on February 9th. * EDITOR NOTE: On February 9th, 2003, over 100,00 people were organized in a meditation aimed to bring peace in the Middle East. For more info: www.emissaryoflight.com.

So that’s more sophisticated than just demonstrating in the streets. So the point of the Great Calendar Change is to catalyze all of those different elements, just to say ‘We’re going to do this and this is the way that we’ll affect a permanent change in the field of consciousness.’ I’m quite certain that we will be able to get a major coalition across the board from grassroots peace groups to the type of effort of like what James Twyman is doing and understand that we really have to change consciousness and that changing the calendar is a permanent change in consciousness.

What about the big governments and what not?

That’s an interesting issue there. I’m quite sure that actually we will have some governments already behind this. We have a strong possibility starting with Brazil. Brazil also happens to be the largest Catholic country in the world.

And one of the biggest examples of the economy crumbling.

Yes, exactly. I think we’ll have some South American governments that will start getting behind this. We’ve spent quite a bit of time in South America during the 1990’s and there are very active people down there. They know what the political needs are. So in any case, I see that regardless of where the governments are, this is going to be one of those events of enormous historical significance because it is actually going to be, what we might call, a very interesting peoples revolution. A revolution in time. I think that is what is going to carry the day. One of the moves that we are putting into motion is this as well: we are going to establish the point that the calendar that you follow gives you sovereignty according to that calendar.

Sovereignty - meaning?

Meaning that you have your rights according to that calendar. So if we say that we now recognize that there is a new community on Earth that is placing its concept of it’s sovereignty in the 13 Moon Calendar and no longer recognizes the legitimacy of the Gregorian calendar, according to the Charter of Human Rights, we are saying that our rights have to be respected following this calendar. It’s kind of like passive resistance. We’re not in the Gregorian world anymore.

Off the grid?

Yes, off the grid. Also every institution that exists has its legitimacy in the Gregorian calendar. To take away the Gregorian calendar, those institutions no longer have legitimacy. So this is another point that we are going to be pushing as we get into that 2004 territory. So what we’re saying is we know that we are a very, very large planet-wide force. People are picking up on it. People are singing about it – you have rap and rave groups that are into this calendar and realize that it’s a cultural and revolutionary tool.

It’s a cultural phenomenon and a cultural revolution. We will establish a new community and this community will establish its own legitimacy. We feel that also the events of the world between now and 2004 are such that increasing numbers of the mainstream are going to see the sanity and the correct morality of doing this. This is a way in which we can actually right our wrongs; that we can give ourselves another way to start. We’ve put forth a Peace Plan with this too that says, first of all that on the Day-Out-of-Time, July 25, 2004, that we should call a universal cease-fire. We want to see a universal cease-fire that will observe the universal change in time.

We are also calling for a Universal Religion Council where we’ll have leading representatives of all the world religions, as well as indigenous leaders to kind of referee it, that will just come together on this one point and agree that to change the calendar will give the human race the opportunity to stop in its’ tracks, to stop shooting for a little bit, to reorganize its’ priorities, and to make a better world.

Spiritual unity is the very foundation of this. If we can get representatives of all the major religions to agree on this, then they’re agreeing on a point that’s beyond all of their dogmatic and doctrinal differences for the spiritual betterment of humanity. So we want to emphasize that this is a peaceful cultural revolution, this revolution of time, and it’s a profoundly spiritual revolution.

13 Moon/28-day time is time of perfect harmony. Harmony is peace. Peace is a spiritual thing so that’s basically how we’re looking at it at this point. I know, as I’ve said, the populous aspect of this is growing enormously. This is the one untried solution. We’ll probably be able to get UNESCO behind this if not the United Nations itself. We’ve been in touch with UNESCO and UNESCO thinks that this is a very interesting idea.

I applaud that and hope to see it pick up there. What are some of your other concepts? For example when you talk about "time is art," and "time is the forth dimension," how does this apply to what’s happening?

OK, first of all, time is art. In the present society, time is money. That’s everywhere and everyone knows that. Whatever you do, it’s ‘How much does it cost?’ and if you don’t make it to work, ‘How much will that cost?’ Everything is prorated down to money, so it’s a purely materialistic concept. That is the nature of it. A calendar means an account book. There is a move to change the name of calendar to 13 Moon Syncronometer, the measure of your synchronicity.
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sicer so kel tibetansi v akciji, sam se nanaša na 2012

Remote viewing Tibetan monks see Extra Terrestrial powers saving the World from destroying itself in 2012
N.K. Subramanium, Special Correspondent
December 26, 2004

Remote viewing is nothing new in Tibetan monasteries. For thousands of years remote viewing in the middle of other spiritual activities have dominated Tibetan culture. What some Indian tourists came to learn from a few Tibetan monasteries under the current Chinese rule is extremely alarming and fascinating.

According to these tourists remote viewers are seeing world powers in the course of self-destruction. They also see that the world will not be destroyed. Between now and 2012 the world super powers will continue to engage in regional wars. Terrorism and covert war will be the main problem. In world politics something will happen in and around 2010. At that time the world powers will threaten to destroy each other.

Between 2010 and 2012, the whole world will get polarized and prepare for the ultimate dooms day. Heavy political maneuvers and negotiations will take place with little progress.

In 2012, the world will start plunging into a total destructive nuclear war.

And at that time something remarkable will happen, says, Buddhist monk of Tibet. Supernatural divine powers will intervene. The destiny of the world is not to self-destruct at this time.

Scientific interpretation of the monks’ statements makes it evident that the Extra Terrestrial powers are watching us every step of the way. They will intervene in 2012 and save the world from self-destruction.

When asked about recent UFO sightings in India and China, the monks smiled and said the divine powers are watching us all. Mankind cannot and will not be allowed to alter the future to that great extent.

Every human being though their current acts in life called “Karma” can alter the future lives to some extent, but changing the destiny in that large extent will not be allowed to that great an extent.

Monks also mentioned that beyond 2012 our current civilization would understand that the final frontier of science and technology is in area of spirituality and not material physics and chemistry. Beyond 2012, out technologies will take a different direction. People will learn the essence of spirituality, the relation between body and the soul, the reincarnation and the fact we are connected with each other are all part of “God”.

In India and China UFO sightings have increased in many folds. Many say the Chinese and Indian Governments are being contacted by the Extra Terrestrials.

In recent days most UFO activities have been seen in those countries who have indigenously developed Nuke capabilities.

When asked if these extra-terrestrials will show up in reality in 2012, the answers remote viewers are giving is: they will reveal themselves in such a way that none of us scared. They will reveal themselves only if they have to. As our science and technology progresses, we are destined to see them and interact with them any way.

According to the remote viewers, our earth is blessed and is being saved continuously from all kinds of hazards all the time that we are not even aware of. As our technologies progress we will realize how external forces saved us. http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/12-26-04.asp
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Reply #40 - 04.06.2005 at 00:14:14
by Carl Johan Calleman

In this article Carl Johan Calleman predicts a unification of the
modern expressions of some of the most advanced ancient traditions of
the West and the East; the Mayan and the Vedic. In this unification it
seems that it is the West, the Maya and some other Native American
peoples, that is providing the calendrical knowledge about the cosmic
plan, while it is the East, the Vedic and Buddhist traditions that is
carrying the time-less wisdom of the Self. The practical unification of
these thought systems and traditions is then brought about by all those
that are taking a path towards Enlightenment And according to the Mayan
calendar, the time for this is now.

The prophetic Mayan calendar is unique among the calendars of the world
in being a non-astronomically based calendar. Rather than being based
on the physical movements of the earth, sun and planets it charts the
changing spiritual energies of cosmic evolution. Unlike the world?s
many astrological systems the Mayan calendar is not based on the
Earth?s precession or positions of the stars. It is however the only
calendar that is proven to be prophetic and the predictions made from
it are repeatedly verified. From this perspective it is then natural to
ask what this calendar has to say about the mission of Kalki in today?s
world as well as Enlightenment in general.
href="http://www.experiencefestival.com/kalki/">Kalki, who is an
Enlightenment avatar in South India that since the early nineties has
actively sought to help people attain the Enlightened state, in fact
uses the same framework as the Mayan calendar for the change in
consciousness that we are currently living in the midst of.

A good starting point for such a discussion is then the ideas put forth
by Kalki himself and those around him. Since I have not heard this
developed first-hand I can only recapitulate what I have been told,
basically that the time for humanity to become enlightened is now and
that this now will only last until the year 2012. There are two
remarkable things about these views. The first is that by presenting
such a perspective Kalki makes a break with the traditional Eastern
view. According to the traditional perspective, Enlightenment ? which
by itself is a kind of entry into a timeless reality, an ever-present
now ? is something that happens independently of human history. It has
been regarded as a state that may be attained at any point in time as a
result of the application of various methods of individual spiritual
purification and enhancement. Hardly any traditional Eastern text
mentions an exact point in time at which Enlightenment is to be
attained. Moreover, in most of them Enlightenment is seen as something
that is the goal of the individual as if he or she was separate from
cosmic evolution.

The second noteworthy thing is that the year set for the accomplishment
of this mission, 2012, coincides with what to the rest of the world has
become known as the ending year of the Mayan calendar; 2012. (Actually
the true date for the completion of the cosmic plan is October 28,
but it would lead too far to go into why). Although this concordance
of the dates was not originally known to Kalki, it does provide for a
unification of the world views of the East and the West on a new and
higher level. In fact, that Kalki, and the prophet who originally
pronounced this prophecy to him, did not originally know about the
existence of the Mayan calendar, makes this confluence of dates all the
more telling and remarkable. It points to the reality of the Mayan
calendar that in certain aspects can be intuitively accessed by any
inhabitant of this planet, and truly independently verifies the
existence of a cosmic time plan that the majority of humanity is still
oblivious to.

Briefly, the Mayan calendar is associated with nine creation cycles,
which represent nine levels of consciousness or Underworlds as
symbolized by the Mayan pyramids. This pyramidal structure of
consciousness development can explain things as disparate as the common
origin of world religions and the modern complaint that time seems to
be moving faster. Time, in fact is speeding up as we transition from
the materialist Planetary Underworld that still govern us to a new and
higher frequency of consciousness ? the Galactic Underworld ? in
preparation for the final Universal level of conscious Enlightenment.
The Mayan calendar is thus a spiritual device that enables a greater
understanding of the nature of conscious evolution throughout human
history and the concrete steps we can take to align ourselves with this
cosmic evolution toward Enlightenment. Interestingly then, the Mayan
calendar places Kalki?s mission in a context, the divine plan as
charted by the Mayan calendar.

A distinguishing characteristic about the Mayan calendar is thus that
new ways of thinking about religion and spirituality ? and the
individuals that promote these who usually are referred to as avatars
or prophets ? emerge at clearly definable times as related to the Mayan
calendar. They in other words often emerge at times propelling
significant changes in consciousness as defined by the Mayan calendar.
An obvious example is the Buddha, Siddharta Gautama, whose year of
birth is often given as 552 BC, which is the exact midpoint of the
Mayan Long Count starting in 3114 BC and ending in 2012. Another is
that Christianity began to be widely taught around AD 40, as the Ninth
baktun, ruled by Quetzalcoatl, the Lord of Light in ancient Mexico,
began to dominate the consciousness of people.

The point to realize is that spiritual leaders do not just pop up
randomly in the history of humanity, but at times where the cosmic plan
alters the consciousness of people in such a way that people become
receptive to their message. If Jesus, for instance, would have appeared
with his message in the baktun beginning 1538 BC, he would rapidly have
been forgotten as, in the consciousness ruling at that time, his
message would have fallen on deaf ears. It is the evolution of
consciousness among humanity as this is defined by the Mayan calendar
that defines what spiritual messages people are receptive to at any
given time. In this sense, also the message of Kalki, and the path
towards Enlightenment that he points out, appears at the current time
simply because the Cosmic Plan has now endowed people with a
consciousness that makes them receptive to this message.

Of course, if human evolution is looked upon in this way, the role of
individual prophets is somewhat lessened. They are, as the rest of us,
only agents of the Cosmic Plan and its divine purpose. And so, there
may be many different types of spiritual practice, embodied by several
different individuals, that may be leading people to the state of
Enlightenment. All that the Mayan calendar is saying is that at the
current time the evolution of consciousness is becoming increasingly
more favorable to the consciousness change that attaining the
Enlightened state means. It does not say that there is only one
individual that can help bring this change about, nor does it say that
there is only one type of spiritual practice that may lead there. What
it does say however is that step by step there will be a change in
consciousness in the current Galactic Underworld that until October 28,
2011, will make Enlightenment a state that is increasingly more easily

To the majority of humanity however, events ? not only the attainment
of a state of Enlightenment, but also changes in religious thinking or
technological innovations ? happen more or less at random and are
unrelated to its evolution at large. This denial or ignorance of a
cosmic time plan for the evolution of humanity blinds it to its higher
purpose. We should then not be surprised that the world looks the way
it does as most people to not recognize that they are here to fulfil a
purpose and to do this in a limited amount of time. A view of history
as being random fosters not only a lack of hope, but in many also an
irresponsible attitude towards life. Hence, the overriding importance
of working to disseminate information about the Mayan calendar in
today?s world and Kalki has encouraged adepts to study it.

The current unification of the modern expressions of some of the most
advanced ancient traditions of the West and the East, the Mayan and the
Vedic, in fact creates an opening for an understanding that human life
has an inherent purpose. Even if the modern East and West in recent
times have been engaged in many conflicts it thus seems possible that,
if we are willing to explore their ancient origins, it is possible to
find some common ground, in fact an entirely new world view that is
whole and where nothing is separate from the All is now gradually

In this unification it seems that it is the West, the Maya and some
other Native American peoples, that is providing the calendrical
knowledge about the cosmic plan, while it is the East, the Vedic and
Buddhist traditions that is carrying the time-less wisdom of the Self.
The practical unification of these thought systems and traditions is
then brought about by all those that are taking a path towards
Enlightenment and according to the Mayan calendar the time for this is
now. In so doing we are collectively speaking creating the Universal

Johan Calleman is one of the main teachers at the
target="_blank" href="http://www.experiencefestival.com">Experience
Festival at The World University of Consciousness where two of the
topics in focus are
Awakening and

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Reply #44 - 04.07.2006 at 17:48:58

The key to your future isn't a key ... it's a calendar

The true Mayan Calendar comes to an end, in less than 6 years from now.

While a great deal of focus has been placed on the end date of the calendar, here at Mayan Calendar Code, we're going to direct your attention to something of far greater value to your life right now.

For example:
  • Would you like to know why this calendar ends in the first place?
  • Would you like to know why understanding and utilizing this ancient calendar can create a whole new way to perceive Time?
  • Would you like to know how your life fits into the unfolding Plan of Creation?

This web site is not about what we believe is contained within the Mayan Calendar. It is not based on our opinions, speculations or abstract ideas about the Mayan Calendar.

This web site is about the latest discoveries about the Mayan Calendar that can be scientifically verified. That is our purpose here. This web site is about what can be scientifically verified and what, at the same time, is spiritually transformational. These two are not a diametrically opposed as many people may think.

The Mayan Calendar holds an astonishing message for humanity!

How can you benefit from knowing more about the Mayan Calendar?

Have you ever felt as if you're a small piece of a very BIG puzzle? And an unimportant piece at that! You may go about your life, day-to-day, feeling like what you do and what you think has very little effect on the world-at-large.

What if the exact opposite is true?

The encoded message of this ancient timing-device called the Mayan Calendar, has now been cracked wide open and guess what?

You are in it! I am in it. Everyone living on planet Earth right now, is in it.

According to the Mayan Calendar, you are living in the age where there is no escape clause anymore and you, along with everyone alive in this age, must take responsibility for your part in the process.

But how do you do that?...


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Petra. wrote on 09.02.2005 at 13:10:59:
It is not our possessions, nor our actions that determine who we are.  It is our decisions that make us.

Prišel je čas...
Petra. wrote on 08.07.2004 at 01:35:10:
Is Time Speeding Up?

The Maya are sharing their sacred timekeeping system with the rest of the world, and in this way they are giving us a heads-up. We all know the world is changing drastically and that time seems to be speeding up. The Mayan culture has not only known about this acceleration for 5,000 years - they can actually explain what's happening and why!

The bottom line is that time isn't actually speeding up. What's accelerating is the evolution of consciousness.  More is happening in every second than ever before. A shift in consciousness that used to take billions of years to happen now happens in only 360 days. Beginning in February 2011, the same shift will take only 20 days. Now, that's a head-spinning rate of change.  

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Petra. wrote on 05.06.2004 at 18:25:31:
Special planetary alignments facilitate this transformation. The Harmonic Convergence in 1987 marked the beginning of a 25-year period leading to the ending of the Mayan calendar in 2012. This is when the Maya say we will enter a new cycle they call the World of the Fifth Sun.

Harmonic Concordance
Strawin wrote on 23.10.2003 at 15:59:31:
Harmonic Concordance....to me it seems like a big crossroads where we will have to pick between good an evil...a war of sorts...

Petra. wrote on 06.11.2003 at 16:45:19:
When John presented this information to me, I had no context for it  no other facts against which to weigh what I was hearing. But with the recent predictions of the Maya and the Hopi, that has all changed.  

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