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Re: Etika in morala
Reply #45 - 14.04.2003 at 10:03:40
 
t wrote on 14.04.2003 at 00:47:54:
Kaj pa Sartre pa obsojenost na svobodo?

Po mojem je ne gre omejevat na izbiro, kjer je v zakoličenih poteh iz situacije svoboda zreducirana na skranjni minimumum, ko lahko, če sploh, o svobodi še govorimo.

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Re: Etika in morala
Reply #46 - 14.04.2003 at 11:24:00
 
Vendar pa znotraj etike (etike kot delovanja - v praksi) svoboda ni nič drugega kot ravno svoboda izbire (čeprav se jo uporablja tudi kot parolo - kar je Marx dobro skritiziraral, češ da v kapitalizmu svoboda pomeni samo svoboda imeti lastnino in nič drugega).


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Re: Etika in morala
Reply #47 - 14.04.2003 at 14:14:41
 
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Tko nekako, kot v Trainspottingu Johna Hodgea:

Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a crappity smacking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of crappity smacking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the crappity smack you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing crappity smacking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, crappity smacked up brats you spawned to replace yourself.

Choose your future.

Choose life.


"The dangers of (societal) coercion have always existed, but they are now acute because of the instruments of coercion that we have put in each other's hands. The riches that can be offered as rewards and the horrors that can be threatened as punishment are so available and so powerful that human existence could become intolerable. Through various forms of bribery, through the kinds of manipulation involved in political and commercial advertising, through police surveillance and tac squads, as well as through the ever-increasing weaponry of seek-and-destroy and super bombs, we have become more at the mercy of each other than ever, even more so than earlier tribes were at the mercy of their gods of earth, water, fire, and air. In my view, only the widest possible expansion of teaching and learning will enable people, both individually and collectively, to act on the basis of their own comprehensive understanding rather than on the basis of massive and ubiquitous coercion" (Frank Oppenheimer).
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Re: Etika in morala
Reply #48 - 14.04.2003 at 19:31:25
 
Dobr je tale frank povedal, da z družbe razpolagajo s takšnimi represivnimi sredstvi, da je človeška ekistenca postala nevzdržna. Še posebe zdej, ko se je sesulo tud ravnotežje, vzpostavljenje na strahu pred medsebojnim uničenjem.   Zdej se da  uničevat sistematično natančno lokalizirano, a  hkrati gobalno in totalno. Kolkr jest zastopim franka, bi blo možno  nardit ekistenco znosno le z  induvidualno in kolektivo ekspanzijo zgoščenega uvidenja te neznosne eksitenčne situacije vseprisotnega nasilja. V tem smislu mora  etika nenasilja bit  enako agresivna kot etika nasilja, ga mora nevtarlizirat tako individualno kot kolektivno, saj se nasilje ni več sposobno medsebojno na ravnotežju strahu nevtraizirat. Tle sploh nimamo nobene posebne svobodne izbire, al kaj?
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Re: Etika in morala
Reply #49 - 15.04.2003 at 08:29:24
 
Vidi se, da je Frank bolj tehnične stroke - konec koncev tudi čez celotno zgodovino ni bilo nič drugače - kljub pomanjkljivi tehniki je bila kontrola velika, kazni pa so bile še za kakšno nianso bolj krute (poleg tega, da so tudi ljudje spadali med lastnino - če si bil navaden tlačan je bilo vse, vključno s tabo, last tvojega gospoda). Kontrole in manipulacije se pač sedaj dogajajo na bolj prefinjen in zvit način.

Vendar smo sedaj (vsaj nekatera plemena) vseeno kvalitativno na boljšem - res pa je, da nas lahko edino splošno ozavedenje in znanje postavi še nekoliko višje.


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