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Reply #30 - 25.11.2002 at 13:19:04
 
Full text: bin Laden's 'letter to America'
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Reply #31 - 13.02.2003 at 03:59:04
 
"I was once asked why I don't participate in anti-war demonstrations. I said that I will never do that, but as soon as you have a pro-peace rally, I'll be there."   Mother Teresa

THE WORLD WILL KNOW THE TRUTH
John Pilger in New Statesman (London) 16 December 2002 > >
John Pilger reveals the deranged agendas of the ruthlessly
power-and-profit-greedy people directing the current American
administration, most of them relics from the Reagan-Bush Sr. cold war era.
Two years ago a project set up by the men who now surround George W.Bush said what America needed was "a new Pearl Harbor". Its clearly spelled out aims have very conveniently come alarmingly true,  according to JohnPilger in the New Statesman.  "The threat posed by US state terrorism to the security of nations  and individuals was outlined in prophetic detail in this secret  document written more than a year before the Sept. 11 events,and  accidentally exposed recently. What was needed for America to
dominate most of humanity and the world's resources, it said, was  "some catastrophic and catalysing event -like a new Pearl Harbor". "The attacks of11 September 2001 provided the "new Pearl Harbor",described as "the opportunity of ages". The extremists who have since ruthlessly and effectively exploited 11 September come from the era of Ronald Reagan,when far-right groups and "think-tanks" were established to avenge the American "defeat" in Vietnam.
"One of George W. Bush's "thinkers" is Richard Perle. I interviewed Perle when he was advising Reagan; and when he spoke about "total war", I then dismissed him as mad.  He recently used the term again in describing America's "war on terror". "No stages," he said. "This  is total war. We are fighting a variety of enemies. There are lots of them out there. All this talk about first we are going to do Afghanistan, then we will do Iraq . .This is entirely the wrong way to go about it. If we just let our vision of the world go forth,  and we embrace it entirely and we don't try to piece together clever diplomacy, but just wage a total war . . . our
children will sing  great songs about us years from now."  & "Perle is one of the founders of the Project for the New American Century, the PNAC.
Other founders include Dick Cheney, now  vice-president, Donald
Rumsfeld,defence secretary, Paul Wolfowitz,  deputy defence secretary, Iewis Libby,Cheney's chief of staff, William J Bennett, Reagan's education secretary,and Zalmay Khalilzad, Bush's ambassador to Afghanistan. These are the modern chartists of American state terrorism.  "The PNAC's seminal report, Rebuilding America's Defences: strategy,  force and resources for a
new century, was a blueprint of American aims in all but name. Two years ago
it recommended an increase in arms-spending by $48 billion so that
Washington could "fight and win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars".
This has happened. It said the United States should develop "bunker-buster"
nuclear weapons and make "star wars" a national priority. This is happening.
"It said that, in the event of Bush taking power, Iraq should be a target.And so it is. As for Iraq's alleged "weapons of mass destruction", these were dismissed, in so many words, as a convenient excuse, which it is.
WWhile the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate
justification," it says, "the need for a substantial American force
presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."
How has this grand strategy been implemented?  "A series of articles in the Washington Post, co-authored by Bob Woodward of Watergate fame and based onlong interviews with senior  members of the Bush administration, reveals how 11 September was manipulated.
"On the morning of 12 September 2001, without any evidence of who the hijackers were, Rumsfeld demanded that the US attack Iraq. According to Woodward, Rumsfeld told a cabinet meeting that Iraq should be "a principal target of the first round in the war against terrorism".  Iraq was temporarily spared only because Colin Powell, the secretary of state, persuaded Bush that "public opinion has to be prepared  before a move against Iraq is possible". Afghanistan and the Talibans, created, trained and funded by the CIA, was chosen as the softer option.;
"If Jonathan Steele's estimate in the Guardian is correct, some 20,000 people in Afghanistan paid the price of this debate with their lives. "Time and again, 11 September is described as an "opportunity". In  last April's New Yorker, the investigative reporter Nicholas Lemann  wrote that Bush's most senior adviser, Condoleezza Rice, told him she had called together senior members of the National Security Council and asked them "to
think about 'how do you capitalise on  these opportunities' ", which she compared with those of "1945 to 1947": the start of the cold war."

Note: If anyone wishes to investigate in depth and detail all the
extraordinary unexplained anomalies and blatant inconsistencies in  the official story about September 11, I recommend the website
http://208.187.163.46/completetimeline/index.htm "Since 11 September,
America has established bases at the gateways to all the major sources of fossil fuels, especially central Asia. The Unocal
oil company is to build a pipeline across Afghanistan.  "Bush has scrapped the Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse gas emissions,  the war crimes provisions of the International Criminal Court and the anti-ballistic missile treaty. He has said he will use nuclear  weapons against non-nuclear states "if necessary". "Under cover of propaganda about Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, the Bush regime is developing new weapons of mass destruction
that undermine international treaties on biological and chemical warfare.
"In the Los Angeles Times, the military analyst William Arkin  describes a secret army set up by Donald Rumsfeld, similar to those  run by Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger and which Congress outlawed. This "super-intelligence support activity" will bring  together the "CIA and military covert action, information warfare, and deception". According to a classified document prepared for  Rumsfeld, the new organisation, known by its Orwellian euphemism as  the Proactive Pre-emptive Operations Group, or P2OG, will provoke  terrorist attacks which would then require "counter-attack" by the United States on countries "harbouring the
terrorists".

"In other words, innocent people will be killed by the United States. This is reminiscent of Operation Northwoods, the plan put to President Kennedy by his military chiefs for a phoney terrorist campaign - complete with bombings, hijackings, plane crashes and dead Americans - as justification for an invasion of Cuba. Kennedy  rejected it. He was assassinated a few months later. Now Rumsfeld  has resurrected Northwoods, but with resources undreamt of in 1963  and with no global rival to invite caution.  "You have to keep reminding yourself this is not fantasy: that truly dangerous men,such as Perle and Rumsfeld and Cheney, have power. The  thread running through their ruminations is the importance of the media: "the prioritised task of bringing on board journalists of repute to accept our position".
"Our position" is code for lying. Certainly, as a journalist, I have never known official lying to be more pervasive than today. We may laugh at the vacuities in Tony Blair's "Iraq dossier" and Jack Straw's inept lie that Iraq has developed a nuclear bomb (which his minions rushed to "explain"). But the more insidious lies, justifying an unprovoked attack on Iraq and linking it to would-be terrorists who are said to lurk in every Tube station, are routinely channelled as news. They are not news; they are black propaganda.
"This corruption makes journalists and broadcasters mere ventriloquists' dummies. An attack on a nation of 22 million  suffering people is discussed by liberal commentators as if it were a subject at an academic seminar, at &which pieces can be pushed around a map, as the old imperialists used to do.
"The issue for these humanitarians is not primarily the brutality of modern imperial domination, but how "bad" Saddam Hussein is. There is no admission that their decision to join the war party further seals the fate of tens or even hundreds of thousands of innocent ordinary people condemned to wait on America's international death row. Their doublethink will not work. You cannot support murderous piracy in the name of humanitarianism.
Moreover, the extremes of American fundamentalism that we now face have been staring at us for  too long for those of good heart and sense not to recognise them.
"Remember, if you send this on to just 10 others and all down the chain each one follows the same simple procedure, THE WORLD WILL  KNOW THE TRUTH:
That the present US administration is threatening in an unprecedented way not only the peace and survival of millions,  but the entire planet and all life on it. Other nations MUST speak  up to put a stop to this madness. The press is in the pay of the destructive powers and will not tell us the truth, so the Internet  is our only way to access and spread the truth.  LET'S USE IT!"
"Unless we change direction, we are likely to end up where we are
headed."
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Reply #33 - 19.02.2003 at 01:50:28
 
A piece from acclaimed author John le Carré

     The United States of America Has Gone Mad

     America has entered one of its periods of historical
     madness, but this is the worst I can remember: worse
     than McCarthyism, worse than the Bay of Pigs and in
     the long term potentially more disastrous than the
     Vietnam War.

     The reaction to 9/11 is beyond anything Osama bin
     Laden could have hoped for in his nastiest dreams. As
     in McCarthy times, the freedoms that have made America
     the envy of the world are being systematically eroded.
     The combination of compliant US media and vested
     corporate interests is once more ensuring that a
     debate that should be ringing out in every town square
     is confined to the loftier columns of the East Coast
     press.

     The imminent war was planned years before bin Laden
     struck, but it was he who made it possible. Without
     bin Laden, the Bush junta would still be trying to
     explain such tricky matters as how it came to be
     elected in the first place; Enron; its shameless
     favouring of the already-too-rich; its reckless
     disregard for the world's poor, the ecology and a raft
     of unilaterally abrogated international treaties. They
     might also have to be telling us why they support
     Israel in its continuing disregard for UN resolutions.


     But bin Laden conveniently swept all that under the
     carpet. The Bushies are riding high. Now 88 per cent
     of Americans want the war, we are told. The US defense
     budget has been raised by another $60 billion to
     around $360 billion. A splendid new generation of
     nuclear weapons is in the pipeline, so we can all
     breathe easy. Quite what war 88 per cent of Americans
     think they are supporting is a lot less clear. A war
     for how long, please? At what cost in American lives?
     At what cost to the American taxpayer's pocket? At
     what cost - because most of those 88 per cent are
     thoroughly decent and humane people - in Iraqi lives?

     How Bush and his junta succeeded in deflecting
     America's anger from bin Laden to Saddam Hussein is
     one of the great public relations conjuring tricks of
     history. But they swung it. A recent poll tells us
     that one in two Americans now believe Saddam was
     responsible for the attack on the
     World Trade Centre. But the American public is not
     merely being misled. It is being browbeaten and kept
     in a state of ignorance and fear. The carefully
     orchestrated neurosis should carry Bush and his fellow
     conspirators nicely into the next election.

     Those who are not with Mr Bush are against him. Worse,
     they are with the enemy. Which is odd, because I'm
     dead against Bush, but I would love to see Saddam's
     downfall - just not on Bush's terms and not by his
     methods. And not under the banner of such outrageous
     hypocrisy.

     The religious cant that will send American troops into
     battle is perhaps the most sickening aspect of this
     surreal war-to-be. Bush has an arm-lock on God. And
     God has very particular political opinions. God
     appointed America to save the world in any way that
     suits America. God appointed Israel to be the nexus of
     America's Middle Eastern policy, and anyone who wants
     to mess with that idea is a) anti-Semitic, b)
     anti-American, c) with the enemy, and d) a terrorist.

     God also has pretty scary connections. In America,
     where all men are equal in His sight, if not in one
     another's, the Bush family numbers one President, one
     ex-President, one ex-head of the CIA, the Governor of
     Florida and the ex-Governor of Texas.

     Care for a few pointers? George W. Bush, 1978-84:
     senior executive, Arbusto Energy/Bush Exploration, an
     oil company; 1986-90: senior executive of the Harken
     oil company. Dick Cheney, 1995-2000: chief executive
     of the Halliburton oil company. Condoleezza Rice,
     1991-2000: senior executive with the Chevron oil
     company, which named an oil tanker
     after her. And so on. But none of these trifling
     associations affects the integrity of God's
     work.

     In 1993, while ex-President George Bush was visiting
     the ever-democratic Kingdom of Kuwait to receive
     thanks for liberating them, somebody tried to kill
     him. The CIA believes that "somebody" was Saddam.
     Hence Bush Jr's cry: "That man tried to kill my
     Daddy." But it's still not personal, this war. It's
     still necessary. It's still God's work. It's still
     about bringing freedom and democracy to oppressed
     Iraqi people.

     To be a member of the team you must also believe in
     Absolute Good and Absolute Evil, and Bush, with a lot
     of help from his friends, family and God, is there to
     tell us which is which. What Bush won't tell us is the
     truth about why we're going to war. What is at stake
     is not an Axis of Evil - but oil, money and people's
     lives. Saddam's misfortune is to sit on the second
     biggest oilfield in the world. Bush wants it, and who
     helps him get it will receive a piece of the cake. And
     who doesn't,
     won't.

     If Saddam didn't have the oil, he could torture his
     citizens to his heart's content. Other leaders do it
     every day - think Saudi Arabia, think Pakistan, think
     Turkey, think Syria, think Egypt.

     Baghdad represents no clear and present danger to its
     neighbours, and none to the US or Britain. Saddam's
     weapons of mass destruction, if he's still got them,
     will be peanuts by comparison with the stuff Israel or
     America could hurl at him at five minutes' notice.
     What is at stake is not an imminent military or
     terrorist threat, but the economic imperative of US
     growth. What is at stake is America's need to
     demonstrate its military power to all of us - to
     Europe and Russia and China, and poor mad little North
     Korea, as well as the Middle East; to show who rules
     America at home, and who is to be ruled by America
     abroad.

     The most charitable interpretation of Tony Blair's
     part in all this is that he believed that, by riding
     the tiger, he could steer it. He can't. Instead, he
     gave it a phony legitimacy, and a smooth voice. Now I
     fear, the same tiger has him penned into a corner, and
     he can't get out.

     It is utterly laughable that, at a time when Blair has
     talked himself against the ropes, neither of Britain's
     opposition leaders can lay a glove on him. But that's
     Britain's tragedy, as it is America's: as our
     governments spin, lie and lose their credibility, the
     electorate simply shrugs and looks the other way.
     Blair's best chance of personal survival must be that,
     at the eleventh hour, world protest and an improbably
     emboldened UN will force Bush to put his gun back in
     his holster unfired. But what happens when the world's
     greatest cowboy rides back into town without a
     tyrant's head to wave at the boys?

     Blair's worst chance is that, with or without the UN,
     he will drag us into a war that, if the will to
     negotiate energetically had ever been there, could
     have been avoided; a war that has been no more
     democratically debated in Britain than it has in
     America or at the UN. By doing so, Blair will have set
     back our relations with Europe and the Middle East for
     decades to come. He will have helped to provoke
     unforeseeable retaliation, great domestic unrest, and
     regional chaos in the Middle East. Welcome to the
     party of the ethical foreign policy.

     There is a middle way, but it's a tough one: Bush
     dives in without UN approval and Blair stays on the
     bank. Goodbye to the special relationship.

     I cringe when I hear my Prime Minister lend his head
     prefect's sophistries to this colonialist adventure.
     His very real anxieties about terror are shared by all
     sane men. What he can't explain is how he
     reconciles a global assault on al-Qaeda with a
     territorial assault on Iraq. We are in this war, if it
     takes place, to secure the fig leaf of our special
     relationship, to grab our share of the oil pot, and
     because, after all the public hand-holding in
     Washington and Camp David, Blair has to show
     up at the altar.

     "But will we win, Daddy?"

     "Of course, child. It will all be over while you're
     still in bed."

     "Why?"

     "Because otherwise Mr Bush's voters will get terribly
     impatient and may decide not to vote for him."

     "But will people be killed, Daddy?"

     "Nobody you know, darling. Just foreign people."

     "Can I watch it on television?"

     "Only if Mr Bush says you can."

     "And afterwards, will everything be normal again?
     Nobody will do anything horrid any more?"

     "Hush child, and go to sleep."

     Last Friday a friend of mine in California drove to
     his local supermarket with a sticker on his car
     saying: "Peace is also Patriotic". It was gone by the
     time he'd finished shopping.

     The author has also contributed to an open Democracy
     debate on Iraq at www.open Democracy.net
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Reply #34 - 19.02.2003 at 21:43:03
 
Heh, škoda, da kakšni proameri nikoli ne preberejo kakšnega podobnega članka... No ja, verjetno itak ne znajo brat...

Quote:
because most of those 88 per cent are
thoroughly decent and humane people

Krhm, o tem pa bi se še dalo zelo debatirat...


Btw, kaj ima kdo kakšen članek, ali serijo člankov, ki bi opisovali svinjarijo ameriških vojn od prve, druge svetovne vojne dalje? Po možnosti v angleščini in čim več ekonomskih in političnih podatkov, imam seminarsko o tem...

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žal ne, razen "seznama" kao....

· 1890 ARGENTNINA – vojska zaščiti ameriške interese
· 1891 ČILE – marinci se spopadejo z nacionalističnimi uporniki
· 1891 HAITI – vojska zatre upor temnopoltih delavcev na otoku Navassa
· 1893 HAVAJI – marinci pomagajo devetim ameriškim poslovnežem zrušiti neodvisno kraljevino
· 1894 NIKARAGVA – vojska okupira Bluefields
· 1894/95 KITAJSKA – marinci se vključijo v kitajsko-japonsko vojno
· 1894/96 KOREA – marinci med vojno bazirani v Seulu
· 1895 PANAMA – marinci se izkrcajo
· 1896 NIKARAGVA – marinci se izkrcajo v Corintu
· 1898/1900 KITAJSKA – vojska zatre »boksarsko vstajo«
· 1898/1910 FILIPINI – vojska otočje loči od Španije; 600.000 mrtvih
· 1898/1902 KUBA – vojska otok loči od Španije; okupacija; zaliv Guantanamo še vedno ameriški
· 1898 PORTORIKO – vojska loči otok od Španije; še vedno ameriški teritorij
· 1898 GUAM – vojska otok loči od Španije; še vedno ameriški teritorij
· 1899 SAMOA – vojska se vključi v prestolonasledniški boj
· 1899 NIKARAGVA – marinci se izkrcajo v Bluefildsu
· 1900 HAVAJI – aneksija; vsi Havajčani čez noč postanejo Američani
· 1900 SAMOA – Amerika in Nemčija si razdelita otočje; Ameriška Samoa zdaj ameriški teritorij; priključevanje posameznih otokov trajalo do 1925
· 1903 PANAMA – vojska prežene okupatorsko Kolumbijo; Amerika takoj dobi koncesijo za izgradnjo panamskega kanala, ki je 1914 končan; preide pod kontrolo Amerike, vključno s 16-kilometersko cono ob kanalu
· 1903 HONDURAS – marinci posežejo v revolucijo
· 1903/04 DOMINIKANSKA REPUBLIKA – vojska med revolucijo zaščiti ameriške interese
· 1904/05 KOREJA – marinci se vključijo v rusko-japonsko vojno
· 1906/09 KUBA marinci se izkrcajo med volitvami
· 1907 NIKARAGVA – vojska ustvari protektorat
· 1907 HONDURAS – marinci se vključijo v honduraško-nikaragvansko vojno
· 1908 PANAMA – marinci posežejo med volitvami
· 1910 NIKARAGVA – marinci se izkrcajo v Bluefildsu in Corintu
· 1911 HONDURAS – vojska med državljansko vojno zaščiti ameriške interese; Honduras je med letoma 1911 in 1925 doživel 6 ameriških invazij
· 1911/41 KITAJSKA – vojska ves čas prisotna
· 1912 KUBA – vojska zaščiti ameriške interese; okupacija
· 1912 PANAMA – marinci se izkrcajo med volitvami
· 1912/33 NIKARAGVA – okupacija; bombardiranje; spopadi z gverilci
· 1913 MEHIKA mornarica med revolucijo evakuira Američane
· 1914 DOMINIKANSKA REPUBLIKA – mornarica se z uporniki udari za Santo Domingo
· 1914/18 MEHIKA – spopadi z nacionalisti; marinci 1914 naskočijo Tampico in Vera Cruz; konjenica generala Pershinga naskakuje vojsko Caranze
· 1913/34 HAITI – okupacija; bombardiranje; spopadi z uporniki; ameriški investitorji preženejo francoske, nemške in britanske
· 1916/24 DOMINIKANSKA REPUBLIKA – marinska okupacija
· 1917/33 KUBA – okupacija, protektorat
· 1918/22 RUSIJA vojska se petkrat izkrca (v Murmansku, Vladivostoku itd.), da bi vrgla bolševike
· 198/20 PANAMA vojska po volitvah nastopi kot policaj
· 1919 HONDURAS – marinci se izkrcajo med volitvami
· 1920 GVATEMALA – vojska se spopade z unionisti
· 1922 TURČIJA – vojska se v Smirni spopade z nacinalisti
· 1922/27 KITAJSKA – vojska poseže med nacionalističnimi vprašanji
· 1924/25 HONDURAS – vojska se izkrca med volitvami
· 1925 PANAMA – marinci zatrejo generalni štrajk
· 1927/34 KITAJSKA – marinci razporejeni vsepovprek
· 1932 SALVADOR – bojne ladje udarijo po upornikih
· 1945 JAPONSKA – dve atomski bombi; okupacija
· 1945 NEMČIJA – okupacija
· 1945 KOREJA – okupacija; zatiranje progresivnih sil
· 1946 IRAN – izgon Sovjetov; grožnja z atomskim orožjem
· 1946 JUGOSLAVIJA – mornarica pritiska po sestrelitvi dveh ameriških letal, ki sta kršili Jugoslovanski zračni prostor (prvo sestreljeno pri Zagrebu, drugo, ki je letelo iz Avstrije v Udine, pa na primorskem)
· 1947 ZDA – ustanovljena je CIA
· 1947/48 ITALIJA – Amerika zrežira volitve
· 1947 URAGVAJ – bombniki; grožnja z atomskim orožjem
· 1947/49 GRČIJA – vojska režira državljansko vojno; bori se ne strani neofašistov; Grčija postane klient
· 1945/49 KITAJSKA – vojska poseže v državljansko vojno – na Čankajškovi strani; evakuira Američane
· 1948 NEMČIJA – grožnja z atomskim orožjem; varovanje Berlinskega letalskega koridorja
· 1945/54 FILIPINI – vojska režira vojno z levičarskimi uporniki in nastavlja svoje marionete
· 1948/54 PORTORIKO – vojska režira zlom boja za neodvisnost
· 1949/53 ALBANIJA – neuspešno rušenje komunistične vlade
· 1950 EVROPA – CIA lansira radio Svobodna Evropa, ki oddaja za železno zaveso
· 1950/53 KOREA – vojna s komunističnim severom; grožnje z atomskim orožjem
· 1950 SEVERNA KOREJA – CIA pakira atentat na Kim II Sunga
· 1953 IRAN – CIA izzove socialne nemire, zrežira državni udar, zruši demokratično izvoljenega ministrskega predsednika Mosadeka in nastavi šaha Rezo Pahlavija
· 1954 VIETNAM – Franciji ponudijo atomsko orožje
· 1954 GVATEMALA – bombardiranje; grožnja z atomskim orožjem; vojska naredi invazijo, ker nova vlada nacionalizira posesti ameriških korporacij; CIA s pomočjo eksilantov zruši demokratično izvoljeno levičarsko vlado Jacoba Arbenza; sledila so desetletja, v katerih je umrlo in izginilo več kot 100.000 ljudi
· 1955 INDIJA – CIA pakira atentat na premierja Nehruja
· 1956/57 EGIPT – vojska poseže v sueško krizo; grožnja z atomskim orožjem; marinci evakuirajo tujce; CIA pakira atentat na premierja Naserja
· 1956/58 BLIŽNJI VZHOD – vojska se zasidra v regiji; poskusi rušenja sirijske vlade
· 1958 LIBANON – okupacija; marinci se spopadejo z uporniki, da bi rešili predsednika Chamouna
· 1958 IRAK – grožnja z atomskim orožjem; Irak posvarijo, da naj se ne dotika Kuvajta
· 1958 KITAJSKA – grožnja z atomskim orožjem; Kitajsko posvarijo da naj se ne dotika Tajvana
· 1958 PANAMA – vojska se spopade s protestniki
· 1957/58 INDONEZIJA – CIA skuša zrušiti Sukaranovo vlado – skuje tudi serijo neuspešnih atentatov na Sukara in lažni »erotični film« s katerim ga izsiljujejo
· 1960 KUBA – CIA začne z neuspešnimi atentati na Fiedela Castra



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· 1960 ZDA Amerika lansira prvi vohunski satelit
· 1960/75 VIETNAM – vojna; bombardiranje; grožnje z atomskim orožjem; poskusi rušenja strička Hoja; več kot MILIJON mrtvih· 1961 KONGO – preveč levičarskega premiera Patricija Lumumbo zrušijo in ga na zahtevo ameriškega predsednika Eisenhowerja usmrtijo.
· 1961 LAOS – Kennedy začne »tajno vojno» proti komunistični gverili
· 1961 KUBA – CIA vodi propadlo izkrcanje 1.400 eksilantov v Prašičjem zalivu
· 1961 NEMČIJA – grožnja z atomskim orožjem med gradnjo berlinskega zidu
· 1962 KUBA – grožnja z atomskim orožjem med kubansko raketno krizo
· 1962 LAOS – militarizacija med gverilsko vojno
· 1963 JUŽNI VIETNAM – CIA pakira atentat na predsednika Diema
· 1964 PANAMA – vojska poseže ob krizi s prekopom
· 1964 GVAJANA – Ameriki uspe po enajstih letih zrušiti vlado preveč neodvisnega Cheddija Jagana
· 1964 BRAZILIJA – CIA zrežira državni udar in rušenje preveč levega predsednika Goularta; formiranje »vodov smrti«
· 1965 INDONEZIJA – CIA asistira vojaškemu udaru; Sukarno pade, vstopi Suharto; v čistkah umre MILIJON ljudi, pretežno »komijev«
· 1963/66 DOMINIKANSKA REPUBLIKA – bombardiranje; marinci se izkrcajo med volitvami, zrušijo Juana Boscha, prvega dominikanskega demokratično izvoljenega predsednika po 1924, in nastavijo proameriško vlado
· 1966/67 GVATEMALA – zelene baretke se spopadejo z uporniki
· 1967 BOLIVIJA – CIA asistira pri likvidaciji Che Guevare
· 1967 VIETNAM – CIA lansira program »Phoenix«, s katerim naj bi nevtralizirala vietkong; program vključuje tudi atentate, likvidacije
· 1967 GRČIJA – CIA in vojska zrežirata vojaški udar in padec liberalne vlade Georgeja Papandreouja
· 1969/75 KAMBODŽA – tajno bombardiranje s tepihi; kaos; stradanje; CIA skuje serijo neuspešnih atentatov na predsednika, princa Norodoma Sihanukaka, ki ga 1970 vendarle zrušijo; več kot MILIJON mrtvih
· 1970 OMAN – vojska režira Iransko invazijo
· 1071/73 LAOS – vojska režira južno-vietnamsko invazijo; bombardiranje s tepihi
· 1973 BLIŽNJI VZHOD – grožnja z atomskim orožjem med vojno
· 1973 ČILE – CIA destabilizira Čile, režira vojaški udar in eksikucijo demokratično izvoljenega predsednika, levičarja, Salvadorja Allendeja; v nadaljevanju puča usmrtijo več kot 3.000 »subverzivcev«
· 1975 KAMBODŽA – marinci napadejo otok Tang, da bi osvobodili trgovsko ladjo Mayaguez
· 1975 VZHODNI TIMOR – ameriška vlada Indoneziji prižge zeleno luč za napad z ameriškim orožjem; do 1989 umre več kot 200.000 ljudi (tretjina prebivalstva)
· 1976/92 ANGOLA – CIA asistira upornikom, ki jih fura Južna Afrika
· 1979/92 AFGANISTAN – poligon, na katerem je Amerika merila moči s SZ; MILIJON mrtvih
· 1980 IRAN – grožnja z atomskim orožjem med krizo s talci & islamsko revolucijo
· 1981 LIBIJA – mornarica med manevri sestreli dve libijski letali
· 1981 PANAMA – CIA pakira atentat na generala Torrijosa, šefa države
· 1981/92 SALVADOR – vojaško svetovanje; preleti; spopadi z uporniki; tajna vojna; podpiranje desničarskih »vodov smrti«
· 1981/90 NIKARAGVA – vojaško svetovanje; podpiranje izgnanih contrasov in režiranje invazij, CIA skrivaj nastavi mine v zaliv, rušenje revolucije
· 1982 IRAN – CIA kuje atentat na ajatolo Homeinija
· 1982//84 LIBANON marinci izženejo PLO in podprejo falangiste; mornaricaobstreljuje muslimanske in sirijske položaje
· 1983/89 HONDURAS – vojska gradi baze ob meji
· 1983 GRENADA – destabilizacija; vojska priredi invazijo in zruši vlado Mauricia Bishopa
· 1984 IRAN – mornarica pred Zalivom sestreli dve iranski letali
· 1986 LIBIJA – letalski napad; bombardiranje Tripolija(40 mrtvih, tudi Gadafijeva hči); režiranje atentatov na Gadafija
· 1986 BOLIVIJA – vojska asistira pri čiščenju kokainske regije
· 1987/88 IRAN – mornarica poseže v iraško-iransko vojno, jasno, na iraški strani; bombardiranje
· 1989 LIBIJA – mornarica sestreli dve libijski letali
· 1989 DEVIŠKI OTOKI – vojska zatre črnske nemire
· 1989 FILIPINI – mornarica z letali zaščiti vlado pred udarom
· 1989/90 PANAMA – invazija; vojska zruši nacionalistično vlado in aretira Noriego, predsednika-diktatorja-dilerja; bombardiranje; več kot 3.000 mrtvih
· 1990 LIBERIJA – vojska evakuira tujce med državljansko vojno
· 1990/91 ZALIV – 540.000 vojakov se premakne v Savdsko Arabijo, Oman, katar, Bahrajn in Združene arabske emirate
· 1991 IRAK – vojna; bombardiranje; blokada; več kot 200.000 mrtvih med invazijo, do danes MILIJON IN POL!
· 1991 KUVAJT – bombardiranje; vrnitev kuvajtske kraljeve družine
· 1992/94 SOMALIJA – okupacija med državljansko vojno (via ZN); bombardiranje; spopadi z uporniki; bitka za Mogadiš, nafta
· 1992/94 JUGOSLAVIJA – vojaška blokada Srbije in Črne gore (via Nato); bombardiranje
· 1993/95 BOSNA – bombardiranje srbskih položajev
· 1987/94 HAITI vojaška, pomorska blokada po udaru 1991; vrnitev »svetega« diktatorja Aristida; CIA ves čas kurila vode smrti
· 1995 HRVAŠKA – bombardiranje srbskih položajev v Krajini pred hrvaško ofenzivo
· 1996/97 ZAIRE – marinci v begunskem taborišču za Hutuje
· 1996 IRAK – CIA poskuša likvidirat Sadama Huseina
· 1997 LIBERIJA – spopadi med evakuiranjem tujcev
· 1997 ALBANIJA - spopadi med evakuiranjem tujcev
· 1998 SUDAN – raketiranje farmacevtske tovarne
· 1998 AFGANISTAN – raketiranje kampov za urjenje islamskih gverilcev
· 1998 IRAK – hudo bombardiranje po odhodu inšpektorjev
· 1999 JUGOSLAVIJA – bombardiranje, raketiranje (via NATO); v času kosovske krize
· 2001 MAKEDONIJA – razoroževanje albanskih upornikov (via NATO)
· 2001/02 AFGANISTAN – bombardiranje; raketiranje; invazija; okupacija; več kot 3.500 mrtvih
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In kje si vse tole staknil? Mater so bli aktivni tile jenkiji. Zadnje leto je bolj siromašno, zato pa jih še bolj srbijo prsti. Doma naj bojo in se med sabo raketirajo, če jim je to v užitek.

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Mislim da je še veliko tega a ne vemo, in veliko česar nikoli ne bomo izvedeli.....


Nekako jih moramo ustaviti, I hope...    Ker grejo preko vseh meja.....     so šli že dolgo nazaj......

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Reply #39 - 19.02.2003 at 23:00:43
 
Jaz tudi mislim, da je ogromno svinjarij še prikritih. Veš kaj mi je pa novo? Da sta bili v Jugi sestrteljeni dve njihovi letali. To mi je pa ušlo.

Le kako jih zaustavit? Če pa ne j....jo ničesar. Če pogledaš kakšne proteste so imeli doma med Vijetnamsko vojno, pa vseeno ni zaleglo. In danes so še večji, močnejši. Včasih so vsaj mal Ruse cvikal, danes pa morajo biti Rusi tiho.

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To mi delaj!!! Hvala!!

Kaj pa mi znate priporočat kakšen dober vir o povezavi amerike in zahodnih vlad z prostozidarskim velikim načrtom in teorijo prostozidarske zarote... Rad bi sestavil nekaj, kar bo moje sošolčke v depresijo vrglo  Grin

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Očitno jih boli tudi za lastne ljudi, so že naročili 75 000 vreč za trupla!!!  Shocked
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To ni nič v primerjavi s tem, kolikor si obetajo od nafte...
Takrat bodo lahko kupili vreče za celi svet!  Grin
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Reply #43 - 21.02.2003 at 13:01:40
 
hnjehhh tomi, to boš pa težko najdu ... mislm to o teoriji zarote & stuff ... tega ma še največ andres, čeprov tud ni neki u jedro kar se tiče amerov in prostozidarjev. je pa skor zihr to res, pač to da so prostozidarji ustanovili USA z nemajhno pomočjo židov.
zdej al je to kar se je izciml dobr al slabo mora vsak presodit sam ... men se zdi slabo, bom reku tko, definitvno bi iz teh risorsov lahko modeli več popedenal ...

mogoče tega threada še nisi zapazu:
http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=slovenija;action=display;num=1033...

lahko pa dam klele še dva huda linka:
http://www.hermes-press.com/brainwash1.htm

oziroma, "portal" iz katerega sem nasel podobne webpejdze:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
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Reply #44 - 21.02.2003 at 14:28:31
 
Hvala, same lepe stvari...  Grin

Eni bolj drugi manj pretiravajo... Sam pa verjamem, da kapitalizem potrebuje "prilagojene" oz degenerirane ljudi za svoj obstoj... Vceplja jim pač ideje, da potrebujejo svetlikajoče stvari, ki jih v resnici ne, v izgovor, da je to zdaj njim všeč in je njihov stil.
Čisto možno je tudi, da so vključeni pristozidarji, saj so vsi zahodni liderji že od začetkov (zahodne) zgodovine člani lože. Menda niso izjeme niti današnji naftni mogotci, ki nadzorujejo dogajanje v svetu...

Ah, ja. No, če nič drugega je res, da je poneumljanje v teku povsod, to ti res MORA bit jasno, ko vklopiš TV...

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