Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
Forum Svet pogovorov gape.org
Sončeve pozitivke
pilcom.si
 
  HomeHelpSearchMembersLoginRegister  
 
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 ... 8
(Read 43782 times)
ARS
5
*****
Offline

Preveč dobrega je lahko
... čudovito. (Mae West)

Posts: 2510
daleč od rodne barjanske grude
Gender: female
28 - CHANGE AS GREED  -  Part I
Reply #45 - 24.10.2002 at 20:42:50
 
That still leaves us with a big question: Do I do anything to change myself?

I've got a big surprise for you, lots of good news!  You don't have to do
anything.  The more you do, the worse it gets.  All you have to do is
understand.

Think of somebody you are living with or working with whom you do not like,
who causes negative feelings to arise in you.  Let's help you to understand
what's going on.  The first thing you need to understand is that the
negative feeling is inside you.  You are responsible for the negative
feeling, not the other person.  Someone else in your place would be
perfectly calm and at ease in the presence of this person; they wouldn't be
affected.  You are.  Now, understand another thing, that you're making a
demand.  You have an expectation of this person.  Can you get in touch with
that?  Then say to this person, "I have no right to make any demands on
you."  In saying that, you will drop your expectation.  "I have no right to
make any demands on you.  Oh, I'll protect myself from the consequences of
your actions or your moods or whatever, but you can go right ahead and be
what you choose to be.  I have no right to make any demands on you."

See what happens to you when you do this.  If there's a resistance to
saying it, my, how much you're going to discover about your "me."  Let the
dictator in you come out, let the tyrant come out.  You thought you were
such a little lamb, didn't you?  But I'm a tyrant and you're a tyrant.  A
little variation on "I'm an ass, you're an ass."  I'm a dictator, you're a
dictator.  I want to run your life for you; I want to tell you exactly how
you're expected to be and how you're expected to behave, and you'd better
behave as I have decided or I shall punish myself by having negative
feelings.  Remember what I told you, everybody's a lunatic.

A woman told me her son had gotten an award at his high school.  It was for
excellence in sports and academics.  She was happy for him, but was almost
tempted to say to him, "Don't glory in that award, because it's setting you
up for the time when you can't perform as well."  She was in a dilemma: how
to prevent his future disillusionment without bursting his bubble now.

Hopefully, he'll learn as she herself grows in wisdom.  It's not a matter
of anything she says to him.  It's something that eventually she will
become.  Then she will understand.  Then she will know what to say and when
to say it.  That award was a result of competition, which can be cruel if
it is built on hatred of oneself and of others.  People get a good feeling
on the basis of somebody getting a bad feeling; you win over somebody
else.  Isn't that terrible?  Taken for granted in a lunatic asylum!

There's an American doctor who wrote about the effect of competition on his
life.  He went to medical school in Switzerland and there was a fairly
large contingent of Americans at that school.  He said some of the students
went into shock when they realized that there were no grades, there were no
awards, there was no dean's list, no first or second in the class at the
school.  You either passed or you didn't.  He said, "Some of us just
couldn't take it.  We became almost paranoid.  We thought there must be
some kind of trick here."  So some of them went to another school.  Those
who survived suddenly discovered a strange thing they had never noticed at
American universities: students, brilliant ones, helping others to pass,
sharing notes.  His son goes to medical school in the United States and he
tells him that, in the lab, people often tamper with the microscope so that
it'll take the next student three or four minutes to readjust
it.  Competition.  They have to succeed, they have to be perfect.  And he
tells a lovely little story which he says is factual, but it could also
serve as a beautiful parable.
Back to top
 

Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right. (neznan(a)
 
IP Logged
 
ARS
5
*****
Offline

Preveč dobrega je lahko
... čudovito. (Mae West)

Posts: 2510
daleč od rodne barjanske grude
Gender: female
28 - CHANGE AS GREED  -  Part II
Reply #46 - 24.10.2002 at 20:44:19
 
There was a little town in America where
people gathered in the evening to make music.  They had a saxophonist, a
drummer, and a violinist, mostly old people.  They got together for the
company and for the sheer joy of making music, though they didn't do it
very well.  So they were enjoying themselves, having a great time, until
one day they decided to get a new conductor who had a lot of ambition and
drive.  The new conductor told them, "Hey, folks, we have to have a
concert, we have to prepare a concert for the town."  Then he gradually got
rid of some people who didn't play too well, hired a few professional
musicians, got an orchestra into shape, and they all got their names in the
newspapers.  Wasn't that wonderful?  So they decided to move to the big
city and play there: But some of the old people had tears in their
eyes.  They said, "It was so wonderful in the old days when we did things
badly and enjoyed them."  So cruelty came into their lives, but nobody
recognized it as cruelty.  See how lunatic people have become!

Some of you ask me what I meant when I said, "You go ahead and be yourself,
that's all right, but I'll protect myself, I'll be myself."  In other
words, I won't allow you to manipulate me.  I'll live my life; I'll go my
own way; I'll keep myself free to think my thoughts, to follow my
inclinations and tastes.  And I'll say no to you.  If I feel I don't want
to be in your company, it won't be because of any negative feelings you
cause in me.  Because you don't anymore.  You don't have any more power
over me.  I simply might prefer other people's company.  So when you say to
me, "How about a movie tonight?"  I'll say, "Sorry, I want to go with
someone else; I enjoy his company more than yours."  And that's all
right.  To say no to people -- that's wonderful; that's part of waking
up.  Part of waking up is that you live your life as you see fit.  And
understand: That is not selfish.  The selfish thing is to demand that
someone else live their life as YOU see fit.  That's selfish.  It is not
selfish to live your life as you see fit.  The selfishness lies in
demanding that someone else live their life to suit your tastes, or your
pride, or your profit, or your pleasure.  That is truly selfish.  So I'll
protect myself.  I won't feel obligated to be with you; I won't feel
obligated to say yes to you.  If I find your company pleasant, then I'll
enjoy it without clinging to it.  But I no longer avoid you because of any
negative feelings you create in me.  You don't have that power anymore.

Awakening should be a surprise.  When you don't expect something to happen
and it happens, you feel surprise.  When Webster's wife caught him kissing
the maid, she told him she was very surprised.  Now, Webster was a stickler
for using words accurately (understandably, since he wrote a dictionary),
so he answered her, "No, my dear, I am surprised.  You are astonished!"

Some people make awakening a goal.  They are determined to get there; they
say, "I refuse to be happy until I'm awakened."  In that case, it's better
to be the way you are, simply to be aware of the way you are.  Simple
awareness is happiness compared with trying to react all the time.  People
react so quickly because they are not aware.  You will come to understand
that there are times when you will inevitably react, even in
awareness.  But as awareness grows, you react less and act more.  It really
doesn't matter.

There's a story of a disciple who told his guru that he was going to a far
place to meditate and hopefully attain enlightenment.  So he sent the guru
a note every six months to report the progress he was making.  The first
report said, "Now I understand what it means to lose the self."  The guru
tore up the note and threw it in the wastepaper basket.  After six months
he got another report, which said, "Now I have attained sensitivity to all
beings."  He tore it up.  Then a third report said, "Now I understand the
secret of the one and the many."  It too was torn up.  And so it went on
for years, until finally no reports came in.  After a time the guru became
curious and one day there was a traveler going to that far place.  The guru
said, "Why don't you find what happened to that fellow."  Finally, he got a
note from his disciple.  It said, "What does it matter?"  And when the guru
read that, he said, "He made it!  He made it!  He finally got it!  He got it!"
Back to top
 

Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right. (neznan(a)
 
IP Logged
 
ARS
5
*****
Offline

Preveč dobrega je lahko
... čudovito. (Mae West)

Posts: 2510
daleč od rodne barjanske grude
Gender: female
28 - CHANGE AS GREED  -  Part III
Reply #47 - 24.10.2002 at 20:45:11
 
And there is the story about a soldier on the battlefield who would simply
drop his rifle to the ground, pick up a scrap of paper lying there, and
look at it.  Then he would let it flutter from his hands to the
ground.  And then he'd move somewhere else and do the same thing.  So
others said, "This man is exposing himself to death.  He needs help."  So
they put him in the hospital and got the best psychiatrist to work on
him.  But it seemed to have no effect He wandered around the wards picking
up scraps of paper, looking at them idly, and letting them flutter to the
ground.  In the end they said, "We've got to discharge this man from the
army."  So they call him in and give him a discharge certificate and he
idly picks it up, looks at it, and shouts, "This is it?  This is it."  He
finally got it.

So begin to be aware of your present condition whatever that condition
is.  Stop being a dictator.  Stop trying to push yourself somewhere.  Then
someday you will understand that simply by awareness you have already
attained what you were pushing yourself toward.
Back to top
 

Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right. (neznan(a)
 
IP Logged
 
ARS
5
*****
Offline

Preveč dobrega je lahko
... čudovito. (Mae West)

Posts: 2510
daleč od rodne barjanske grude
Gender: female
29 - A CHANGED PERSON  -  Part I
Reply #48 - 24.10.2002 at 20:46:43
 
In your pursuit of awareness, don't make demands.  It's more like obeying
the traffic rules.  If you don't observe traffic rules, you pay the
penalty.  Here in the United States you drive on the right side of the
road; in England you drive on the left; in India you drive on the left.  If
you don't, you pay the penalty; there is no room for hurt feelings or
demands or expectations; you just abide by the traffic rules.

You ask where compassion comes in, where guilt comes in all this.  You'll
know when you're awake.  If you're feeling guilty right now, how on earth
can I explain it to you?  How would you know what compassion is?  You know,
sometimes people want to imitate Christ, but when a monkey plays a
saxophone, that doesn't make him a musician.  You can't imitate Christ by
imitating his external behavior.  You've got to be Christ.  Then you'll
know exactly what to do in a particular situation, given your temperament,
your character, and the character and temperament of the person you're
dealing with.  No one has to tell you.  But to do that, you must be what
Christ was.  An external imitation will get you nowhere.  If you think that
compassion implies softness, there's no way I can describe compassion to
you, absolutely no way, because compassion can be very hard.  Compassion
can be very rude, compassion can jolt you, compassion can roll up its
sleeves and operate on you.  Compassion is all kinds of things.  Compassion
can be very soft, but there's no way of knowing that.  It's only when you
become love -- in other words, when you have dropped your illusions and
attachments -- that you will "know."

As you identify less and less with the "me," you will be more at ease with
everybody and with everything.  Do you know why?  Because you are no longer
afraid of being hurt or not liked.  You no longer desire to impress
anyone.  Can you imagine the relief when you don't have to impress anybody
anymore?  Oh, what a relief.  Happiness at last!  You no longer feel the
need or the compulsion to explain things anymore.  It's all right.  What is
there to be explained?  And you don't feel the need or compulsion to
apologize anymore.  I'd much rather hear you say, "I've come awake," than
hear you say, "I'm sorry."  I'd much rather hear you say to me, "I've come
awake since we last met; what I did to you won't happen again," than to
hear you say, "I'm so sorry for what I did to you."  Why would anyone
demand an apology?  You have something to explore in that.  Even when
someone supposedly was mean to you, there is no room for apology.

Nobody was mean to you.  Somebody was mean to what he or she thought was
you, but not to you.  Nobody ever rejects you; they're only rejecting what
they think you are.  But that cuts both ways.  Nobody ever accepts you
either.  Until people come awake, they are simply accepting or rejecting
their image of you.  They've fashioned an image of you, and they're
rejecting or accepting that.  See how devastating it is to go deeply into
that.  It's a bit too liberating.  But how easy it is to love people when
you understand this.  How easy it is to love everyone when you don't
identify with what they imagine you are or they are.  It becomes easy to
love them, to love everybody.

I observe "me," but I do not think about "me."  Because the thinking "me"
does a lot of bad thinking, too.  But when I watch "me," I am constantly
aware that this is a reflection.  In reality, you don't really think of "I"
and "me."  You're like a person driving the car; he doesn't ever want to
lose consciousness of the car.  It's all right to daydream, but not to lose
consciousness of your surroundings.  You must always be alert.  It's like a
mother sleeping; she doesn't hear the planes roaring above the house, but
she hears the slightest whimper of her baby.  She's alert, she's awake in
that sense.  One can not say anything about the awakened state; one can
only talk about the sleeping state.  One hints at the awakened state.  One
cannot say anything about happiness.  Happiness cannot be defined.  What
can be defined is misery.  Drop unhappiness and you will know.  Love cannot
be defined; unlove can.  Drop unlove, drop fear, and you will know.  We
want to find out what the awakened person is like.  But you'll know only
when you get there.
Back to top
 

Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right. (neznan(a)
 
IP Logged
 
ARS
5
*****
Offline

Preveč dobrega je lahko
... čudovito. (Mae West)

Posts: 2510
daleč od rodne barjanske grude
Gender: female
29 - A CHANGED PERSON  -  Part II
Reply #49 - 24.10.2002 at 20:47:55
 
Am I implying, for example, that we shouldn't make demands on our
children?  What I said was: "You don't have a right to make any
demands."  Sooner or later that child is going to have to get rid of you,
in keeping with the injunction of the Lord.  And you're going to have no
rights over him at all.  In fact, he really isn't your child and he never
was.  He belongs to life, not to you.  No one belongs to you.  What you're
talking about is a child's education.  If you want lunch, you better come
in between twelve and one or you don't get lunch.  Period.  That's the way
things are run here.  You don't come on time, you don't get your
lunch.  You're free, that true, but you must take the consequences.

When I talk about not having expectations of others, or not making demands
on them, I mean expectations and demands for my well-being.  The President
of the United States obviously has to make demands on people.  The traffic
policeman obviously has to make demands on people.  But these are demands
on their behavior -- traffic laws, good organization, the smooth running of
society.  They are not intended to make the President or traffic policeman
feel good.
Back to top
 

Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right. (neznan(a)
 
IP Logged
 
ARS
5
*****
Offline

Preveč dobrega je lahko
... čudovito. (Mae West)

Posts: 2510
daleč od rodne barjanske grude
Gender: female
30 - ARRIVING AT SILENCE  -  Part I
Reply #50 - 24.10.2002 at 20:49:12
 
Everyone asks me about what will happen when they finally arrive.  Is this
just curiosity?  We're always asking how would this fit into that system,
or whether this would make sense in that context, or what it will feel like
when we get there.  Get started and you will know; it cannot be
described.  It is said widely in the East, "Those who know, do not say;
those who say, do not know."  It cannot be said; only the opposite can be
said.  The guru cannot give you the truth.  Truth cannot be put into words,
into a formula.  That isn't the truth.  That isn't reality.  Reality cannot
be put into a formula.  The guru can only point out your errors.  When you
drop your errors, you will know the truth.  And even then you cannot
say.  This is common teaching among the great Catholic mystics.  The great
Thomas Aquinas, toward the end of his life, wouldn't write and wouldn't
talk; he had seen.  I had thought he kept that famous silence of his for
only a couple of months, but it went on for years.  He realized he had made
a fool of himself, and he said so explicitly.  It's as if you had never
tasted a green mango and you ask me, "What does it taste like?"  I'd say to
you, "Sour," but in giving you a word, I've put you off the track.  Try to
understand that.  Most people aren't very wise; they seize upon the word --
upon the words of scripture, for example -- and they get it all
wrong.  "Sour," I say, and you ask, "Sour like vinegar, sour like a
lemon?"  No, not sour like a lemon, but sour like a mango.  "But I never
tasted one," you say.  Too bad!  But you go ahead and write a doctoral
thesis on it.  You wouldn't have if you had tasted it.  You really
wouldn't.  You'd have written a doctoral thesis on other things, but not on
mangoes.  And the day you finally taste a green mango, you say, "God, I
made a fool of myself.  I shouldn't have written that thesis."  That's
exactly what Thomas Aquinas did.

A great German philosopher and theologian wrote a whole book specifically
on the silence of St. Thomas.  He simply went silent.  Wouldn't talk.  In
the prologue of his Summa Theologica, which was the summary of all his
theology, he says, "About God, we cannot say what He is but rather what He
is not.  And so we cannot speak about how He is but rather how He is
not."  And in his famous commentary on Boethius' De Sancta Trinitate he
says there are three ways of knowing God: (1) in the creation, (2) in God's
actions through history, and (3) in the highest form of the knowledge of
God -- to know God tamquam ignotum (to know God as the unknown).  The
highest form of talking about the Trinity is to know that one does not
know.  Now, this is not an Oriental Zen master speaking.  This is a
canonized saint of the Roman Catholic Church, the prince of theologians for
centuries.  To know God as unknown.  In another place St. Thomas even says:
as unknowable.  Reality, God, divinity, truth, love are unknowable; that
means they cannot be comprehended by the thinking mind.  That would set at
rest so many questions people have because we're always living under the
illusion that we know.  We don't.  We cannot know.

What is scripture, then?  It's a hint, a clue, not a description.  The
fanaticism of one sincere believer who thinks he knows causes more evil
than the united efforts of two hundred rogues.  It's terrifying to see what
sincere believers will do because they think they know.  Wouldn't it be
wonderful if we had a world where everybody said, "We don't know"?  One big
barrier dropped.  Wouldn't that be marvelous?

A man born blind comes to me and asks, "What is this thing called
green?"  How does one describe the color green to someone who was born
blind?  One uses analogies.  So I say, "The color green is something like
soft music."  "Oh," he says, "like soft music."  "Yes," I say, "soothing
and soft music.''  So a second blind man comes to me and asks, "What is the
color green?"  I tell him it's something like soft satin, very soft and
soothing to the touch.  So the next day I notice that the two blind men are
bashing each other over the head with bottles.  One is saying, "It's soft
like music"; the other is saying, "It's soft like satin."  And on it
goes.  Neither of them knows what they're talking about, because if they
did, they'd shut up.  It's as bad as that.  It's even worse, because one
day, say, you give sight to this blind man, and he's sitting there in the
garden and he's looking all around him, and you say to him, "Well, now you
know what the color green is."  And he answers, "That's true.  I heard some
of it this morning!"
Back to top
 

Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right. (neznan(a)
 
IP Logged
 
ARS
5
*****
Offline

Preveč dobrega je lahko
... čudovito. (Mae West)

Posts: 2510
daleč od rodne barjanske grude
Gender: female
30 - ARRIVING AT SILENCE  -  Part II
Reply #51 - 24.10.2002 at 20:50:10
 
The fact is that you're surrounded by God and you don't see God, because
you "know" about God.  The final barrier to the vision of God is your God
concept.  You miss God because you think you know.  That's the terrible
thing about religion.  That's what the gospels were saying, that religious
people "knew," so they got rid of  Jesus.  The highest knowledge of God is
to know God as unknowable.  There is far too much God talk; the world is
sick of it.  There is too little awareness, too little love, too little
happiness, but let's not use those words either.  There's too little
dropping of illusions, dropping of errors, dropping of attachments and
cruelty, too little awareness.  That's what the world is suffering from,
not from a lack of religion.  Religion is supposed to be about a lack of
awareness, of waking up.  Look what we've degenerated into.  Come to my
country and see them killing one another over religion.  You'll find it
everywhere.  "The one who knows, does not say; the one who says, does not
know."  All revelations, however divine, are never any more than a finger
pointing to the moon.  As we say in the East, "When the sage points to the
moon, all the idiot sees is the finger."

Jean Guiton, a very pious and orthodox French writer, adds a terrifying
comment: "We often use the finger to gouge eyes out."  Isn't that
terrible?  Awareness, awareness, awareness!  In awareness is healing; in
awareness is truth; in awareness is salvation; in awareness is
spirituality; in awareness is growth; in awareness is love; in awareness is
awakening.  Awareness.

I need to talk about words and concepts because I must explain to you why
it is, when we look at a tree, we really don't see.  We think we do, but we
don't.  When we look at a person, we really don't see that person, we only
think we do.  What we're seeing is something that we fixed in our mind.  We
get an impression and we hold on to that impression, and we keep looking at
a person through that impression.  And we do this with almost
everything.  If you understand that, you will understand the loveliness and
beauty of being aware of everything around you.  Because reality is there;
"God," whatever that is, is there.  It's all there.  The poor little fish
in the ocean says, "Excuse me, I'm looking for the ocean.  Can you tell me
where I can find it?"  Pathetic, isn't it?  If we would just open our eyes
and see, then we would understand.
Back to top
 

Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right. (neznan(a)
 
IP Logged
 
ARS
5
*****
Offline

Preveč dobrega je lahko
... čudovito. (Mae West)

Posts: 2510
daleč od rodne barjanske grude
Gender: female
31- LOSING THE RAT RACE
Reply #52 - 24.10.2002 at 20:50:59
 
Lets get back to that marvelous sentence in the gospel about losing oneself
in order to find oneself.  One finds it in most religious literature and in
all religious and spiritual and mystical literature.

How does one lose oneself?  Did you ever try to lose something?  That's
right, the harder you try, the harder it gets.  It's when you're not trying
that you lose things.  You lose something when you're not aware.  Well, how
does one die to oneself?  We're talking about death now, we're not talking
about suicide.  We're not told to kill the self, but to die.  Causing pain
to the self, causing suffering to the self would be self-defeating.  It
would be counterproductive.  You're never so full of yourself as when
you're in pain.  You're never so centered on yourself as when you're
depressed.  You're never so ready to forget yourself as when you are
happy.  Happiness releases you from self.  It is suffering and pain and
misery and depression that tie you to the self.  Look how conscious you are
of your tooth when you have a toothache.  When you don't have a toothache,
you're not even aware you have a tooth, or that you have a head, for that
matter, when you don't have a headache.  But it's so different when you
have a splitting headache.

So it's quite false, quite erroneous, to think that the way to deny the
self is to cause pain to the self, to go in for abnegation, mortification,
as these were traditionally understood.  To deny the self, to die to it, to
lose it, is to understand its true nature.  When you do that, it will
disappear; it will vanish.  Suppose somebody walks into my room one day.  I
say, "Come right in.  May I know who you are?"  And he says, "I am
Napoleon."  And I say, "Not the Napoleon .  .  ."  And he says,
"Precisely.  Bonaparte, Emperor of France."  "What do you know!"  I say,
even while I'm thinking to myself, "I better handle this guy with care."

''Sit down, Your Majesty," I say.  He says, "Well, they tell me you're a
pretty good spiritual director.  I have a spiritual problem.  I'm anxious,
I'm finding it hard to trust in God.  I have my armies in Russia, see, and
I'm spending sleepless nights wondering how it's going to turn out."  So I
say, "Well, Your Majesty, I could certainly prescribe something for
that.  What I suggest is that you read chapter 6 of Matthew: "Consider the
lilies of the field .  .  .  they neither toil nor spin."

By this point I'm wondering who is crazier, this guy or me.  But I go along
with this lunatic.  That's what the wise guru does with you in the
beginning.  He goes along with you; he takes your troubles
seriously.  He'll wipe a tear or two from your eye.  You're crazy, but you
don't know it yet.  The time has to come soon when he'll pull the rug out
from under your feet and tell you, "Get off it, you're not Napoleon."  In
those famous dialogues of St. Catherine of Siena, God is reported to have
said to her, "I am He who is; you are she who is not."  Have you ever
experienced your is-not-ness?  In the East we have an image for this.  It
is the image of the dancer and the dance.  God is viewed as the dancer and
creation as God's dance.  It isn't as if God is the big dancer and you are
the little dancer.  Oh no.  You're not a dancer at all.  You are being
danced!  Did you ever experience that?  So when the man comes to his senses
and realizes that he is not Napoleon, he does not cease to be.  He
continues to be, but he suddenly realizes that he is something other than
what he thought he was.

To lose the self is to suddenly realize that you are something other than
what you thought you were.  You thought you were at the center; now you
experience yourself as satellite.  You thought you were the dancer; you now
experience yourself as the dance.  These are just analogies, images, so you
cannot take them literally.  They just give you a clue, a hint; they're
only pointers, don't forget.  So you cannot press them too much.  Don't
take them too literally.
Back to top
 

Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right. (neznan(a)
 
IP Logged
 
ARS
5
*****
Offline

Preveč dobrega je lahko
... čudovito. (Mae West)

Posts: 2510
daleč od rodne barjanske grude
Gender: female
32 - PERMANENT WORTH
Reply #53 - 24.10.2002 at 20:51:53
 
To move on to another idea, there is the whole matter of one's personal
worth.  Personal worth doesn't mean self-worth.  Where do you get
self-worth from?  Do you get it from success in your work?  Do you get it
from having a lot of money?  Do you get it from attracting a lot of men (if
you're a woman) or a lot of women (if you're a man)?  How fragile all that
is, how transitory.  When we talk about self-worth, are we not talking,
really, about how we are reflected in the mirrors of other people's
minds?  But do we need to depend on that?  One understands one's personal
worth when one no longer identifies or defines one's self in terms of these
transient things.  I'm not beautiful because everyone says I'm
beautiful.  I'm really neither beautiful nor ugly.  These are things that
come and go.  I could be suddenly transformed into a very ugly creature
tomorrow, but it is still "I."  Then, say, I get plastic surgery and I
become beautiful again.  Does the "I" really become beautiful?  You need to
give a lot of time to reflect on these things.  I've thrown them at you in
rapid succession, but if you would take the time to understand what I have
been saying, to dwell on it, you'll have a gold mine there.  I know,
because when I stumbled upon these things for the first time, what a
treasure I discovered.

Pleasant experiences make life delightful.  Painful experiences lead to
growth.  Pleasant experiences make life delightful, but they don't lead to
growth in themselves.  What leads to growth is painful
experiences.  Suffering points up an area in you where you have not yet
grown, where you need to grow and be transformed and change.  If you knew
how to use that suffering, oh, how you would grow.  Let's limit ourselves,
for the time being, to psychological suffering, to all those negative
emotions we have.  Don't waste your time on a single one of them.  I've
already told you what you could do with those emotions.  The disappointment
you experience when things don't turn out as you wanted them to, watch
that!  Look at what it says about you.  I say this without condemnation
(otherwise you're going to get caught up in self-hatred).  Observe it as
you would observe it in another person.  Look at that disappointment, that
depression you experience when you are criticized.  What does that say
about you?

Have you heard about the fellow who said, "Who says that worry doesn't
help?  It certainly does help.  Every time I worry about something it
doesn't happen!"  Well, it certainly helped him.  Or the other fellow who
says, "The neurotic is a person who worries about something that did not
happen in the past.  He's not like us normal people who worry about things
that will not happen in the future."  That's the issue.  That worry, that
anxiety, what does it say about you?

Negative feelings' every negative feeling is useful for awareness, for
understanding.  They give you the opportunity to feel it, to watch it from
the outside.  In the beginning, the depression will still be there, but you
will have cut your connection with it.  Gradually you will understand the
depression.  As you understand it, it will occur less frequently, and will
disappear altogether.  Maybe, but by that time it won't matter too
much.  Before enlightenment I used to be depressed.  After enlightenment I
continue to be depressed.  But gradually, or rapidly, or suddenly, you get
the state of wakefulness.  This is the state where you drop desires.  But
remember what I meant by desire and cravings.  I meant: "Unless I get what
I desire, I refuse to be happy."  I mean cases where happiness depends on
the fulfillment of desire.
Back to top
 

Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right. (neznan(a)
 
IP Logged
 
ARS
5
*****
Offline

Preveč dobrega je lahko
... čudovito. (Mae West)

Posts: 2510
daleč od rodne barjanske grude
Gender: female
33 - DESIRE, NOT PREFERENCE
Reply #54 - 24.10.2002 at 20:52:37
 
Do not suppress desire, because then you would become lifeless.  You'd be
without energy and that would be terrible.  Desire in the healthy sense of
the word is energy, and the more energy we have, the better.  But don't
suppress desire, understand it.  Understand it.  Don't seek to fulfill
desire so much as to understand desire.  And don't just renounce the
objects of your desire, understand them; see them in their true light.  See
them for what they are really worth.  Because if you just suppress your
desire, and you attempt to renounce the object of your desire, you are
likely to be tied to it.  Whereas if you look at it and see it for what it
is really worth, if you understand how you are preparing the grounds for
misery and disappointment and depression, your desire will then be
transformed into what I call a preference.

When you go through life with preferences but don't let your happiness
depend on any one of them, then you're awake.  You're moving toward
wakefulness.  Wakefulness, happiness -- call it what you wish -- is the
state of nondelusion, where you see things not as you are but as they are,
insofar as this is possible for a human being.  To drop illusions, to see
things, to see reality.  Every time you are unhappy, you have added
something to reality.  It is that addition that makes you unhappy.  I
repeat: You have added something .  .  .  a negative reaction in
you.  Reality provides the stimulus, you provide the reaction.  You have
added something by your reaction.  And if you examine what you have added,
there is always an illusion there, there's a demand, an expectation, a
craving.  Always.  Examples of illusions abound.  But as you begin to move
ahead on this path, you'll discover them for yourself.

For instance, the illusion, the error of thinking that, by changing the
exterior world, you will change.  You do not change if you merely change
your exterior world.  If you get yourself a new job or a new spouse or a
new home or a new guru or a new spirituality, that does not change
you.  It's like imagining that you change your handwriting by changing your
pen.  Or that you change your capacity to think by changing your hat.  That
doesn't change you really, but most people spend all their energies trying
to rearrange their exterior world to suit their tastes.  Sometimes they
succeed -- for about five minutes they get a little respite, but they are
tense even during that respite, because life is always flowing, life-is
always changing.

So if you want to live, you must have no permanent abode.  You must have no
place to rest your head.  You have to flow with it.  As the great Confucius
said, "The one who would be constant in happiness must frequently
change."  Flow.  But we keep looking back, don't we?  We cling to things in
the past and cling to things in the present.  "When you set your hand to
the plow, you cannot look back."  Do you want to enjoy a melody?  Do you
want to enjoy a symphony?  Don't hold on to a few bars of the music.  Don't
hold on to a couple of notes.  Let them pass, let them flow.  The whole
enjoyment of a symphony lies in your readiness to allow the notes to
pass.  Whereas if a particular bar took your fancy and you shouted to the
orchestra, "Keep playing it again and again and again," that wouldn't be a
symphony anymore.  Are you familiar with those tales of Nasr-ed-Din, the
old mullah?  He's a legendary figure whom the Greeks, Turks, and Persians
all claim for themselves.  He would give his mystical teachings in the form
of stories, generally funny stories.  And the butt of the story was always
old Nasr-ed-Din himself.

One day Nasr-ed-Din was strumming a guitar, playing just one note.  After a
while a crowd collected around him (this was in a marketplace) and one of
the men sitting on the ground there said, "That's a nice note you're
playing, Mullah, but why don't you vary it a bit the way other musicians
do?"  "Those fools," Nasr-ed-Din said, "they're searching for the right
note.  I've found it.
Back to top
 

Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right. (neznan(a)
 
IP Logged
 
ARS
5
*****
Offline

Preveč dobrega je lahko
... čudovito. (Mae West)

Posts: 2510
daleč od rodne barjanske grude
Gender: female
34 - CLINGING TO ILLUSION  -  Part I
Reply #55 - 24.10.2002 at 20:53:45
 
When you cling, life is destroyed; when you hold on to anything, you cease
to live.  It's all over the gospel pages.  And one attains this by
understanding.  Understand.  Understand another illusion, too, that
happiness is not the same as excitement, it's not the same as
thrills.  That's another illusion, that a thrill comes from living a desire
fulfilled.  Desire breeds anxiety and sooner or later it brings its
hangover.  When you've suffered sufficiently, then you are ready to see
it.  You're feeding yourself with thrills.  This is like feeding a
racehorse with delicacies.  You're giving it cakes and wine.  You don't
feed a racehorse like that.  It's like feeding human beings with
drugs.  You don't fill your stomach with drugs.  You need good, solid,
nutritious food and drink.  You need to understand all this for yourself.

Another illusion is that someone else can do this for you, that some savior
or guru or teacher can do this for you.  Not even the greatest guru in the
world can take a single step for you.  You've got to take it
yourself.  St.  Augustine said it so marvelously: "Jesus Christ himself
could do nothing for many of his hearers."  Or to repeat that lovely Arab
saying: "The nature of the rain is the same and yet it produces thorns in
the marsh and flowers in the garden."  It is you who have to do it.  No one
else can help you.  It is you who have to digest your food, it is you who
have to understand.  No one else can understand for you.  It is you who
have to seek.  Nobody can seek for you.  And if what you seek is truth,
then you must do this.  You can lean on no one.

There is yet another illusion, that is it important to be respectable, to
be loved and appreciated, to be important.  Many say we have a natural urge
to be loved and appreciated, to belong.  That's false.  Drop this illusion
and you will find happiness.  We have a natural urge to be free, a natural
urge to love, but not to be loved.  Sometimes in my psychotherapy sessions
I encounter a very common problem: Nobody loves me; how, then, can I be
happy?  I explain to him or her: "You mean you never have any moments when
you forget you're not loved and you let go and are happy?"  Of course they
have.

A woman, for example, is absorbed in a movie.  It's a comedy and she's
roaring with laughter and in that blessed moment she's forgotten to remind
herself that nobody loves her, nobody loves her, nobody loves her.  She's
happy!  Then she comes out of the theater and her friend whom she saw the
movie with goes off with a boyfriend, leaving the woman all alone.  So she
starts thinking, "All my friends have boyfriends and I have no one.  I'm so
unhappy.  Nobody loves me!"

In India, many of our poor people are starting to get transistor radios,
which are quite a luxury.  "Everybody has a transistor," you hear, "but I
don't have a transistor; I'm so unhappy."  Until everyone started getting
transistors, they were perfectly happy without one.  That's the way it is
with you.  Until somebody told you you wouldn't be happy unless you were
loved, you were perfectly happy.  You can become happy not being loved, not
being desired by or attractive to someone.  You become happy by contact
with reality.  That's what brings happiness, a moment-by-moment contact
with reality.  That's where you'll find God; that's where you'll find
happiness.  But most people are not ready to hear that.

Another illusion is that external events have the power to hurt you, that
other people have the power to hurt you.  They don't.  It's you who give
this power to them.
Back to top
 

Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right. (neznan(a)
 
IP Logged
 
ARS
5
*****
Offline

Preveč dobrega je lahko
... čudovito. (Mae West)

Posts: 2510
daleč od rodne barjanske grude
Gender: female
34 - CLINGING TO ILLUSION  -  Part II
Reply #56 - 24.10.2002 at 20:54:39
 
Another illusion: You are all those labels that people have put on you, or
that you have put on yourself.  You're not, you're not!  So you don't have
to cling to them.  The day that somebody tells me I'm a genius and I take
that seriously, I'm in big trouble.  Can you understand why?  Because now
I'm going to start getting tense.  I've got to live up to it, I've got to
maintain it.  I've got to find out after every lecture: "Did you like the
lecture?  Do you still think I'm a genius?"  See?  So what you need to do
is smash the label!  Smash it, and you're free!  Don't identify with those
labels.  That's what someone else thinks.  That's how he experienced you at
that moment.  Are you in fact a genius?  Are you a nut?  Are you a
mystic?  Are you crazy?  What does it really matter?  Provided you continue
to be aware, to live life from moment to moment.  How marvelously it is
described in those words of the gospel: "Look at the birds of the air: they
neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns .  .  .  Consider the lilies of
the field .  .  .  they neither toil nor spin."  That's the real mystic
speaking, the awakened person.

So why are you anxious?  Can you, for all your anxieties, add a single
moment to your life?  Why bother about tomorrow?  Is there a life after
death?  Will I survive after death?  Why bother about tomorrow?  Get into
today.  Someone said, "Life is something that happens to us while we're
busy making other plans."  That's pathetic.  Live in the present
moment.  This is one of the things you will notice happening to you as you
come awake.  You find yourself living in the present, tasting every moment
as you live it.  Another fairly good sign is when you hear the symphony one
note after the other without wanting to stop it.
Back to top
 

Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right. (neznan(a)
 
IP Logged
 
ARS
5
*****
Offline

Preveč dobrega je lahko
... čudovito. (Mae West)

Posts: 2510
daleč od rodne barjanske grude
Gender: female
35 - HUGGING MEMORIES  -  Part I
Reply #57 - 24.10.2002 at 20:56:25
 
That brings me to another theme, another topic.  Put this new topic ties in
very much with what I've been saying and with my suggestion of becoming
aware of all the things we add to reality.  Let's take this one step at a time.

A Jesuit was telling me the other day how years ago he gave a talk in New
York, where Puerto Ricans were very unpopular at the time because of some
incident.  Everybody was saying all kinds of things against them.  So in
his talk he said, "Let me read to you some of the things that the people in
New York were saying about certain immigrants."  What he read to them was
actually what people had said about the Irish, and about the Germans, and
about every other wave of emigrants that had come to New York years
before!  He put it very well when he said, "These people don't bring
delinquency with them; they become delinquent when they're faced with
certain situations here.  We've got to understand them.  If you want to
cure the situation, it's useless reacting from prejudice.  You need
understanding, not condemnation."  That is how you bring about change in
yourself Not by condemnation, not by calling yourself names, but by
understanding what's going on.  Not by calling yourself a dirty old
sinner.  No, no, no, no!

In order to get awareness, you've got to see, and you can't see if you're
prejudiced.  Almost everything and every person we look at, we look at in a
prejudiced way.  It's almost enough to dishearten anybody.

Like meeting a long-lost friend.  "Hey, Tom," I say, "It's good to see
you," and I give him a big hug.  Whom am I hugging, Tom or my memory of
him?  A living human being or a corpse?  I'm assuming that he's still the
attractive guy I thought he was.  I'm assuming he still fits in with the
idea I have of him and with my memories and associations.  So I give him a
hug.  Five minutes later I find that he's changed and I have no more
interest in him.  I hugged the wrong person.

If you want to see how true this is, listen: A religious sister from India
goes out to make a retreat.  Everybody in the community is saying, "Oh, we
know, that's part of her charisma; she's always attending workshops and
going to retreats; nothing will ever change her."  Now, it so happens that
the sister does change at this particular workshop, or therapy group, or
whatever it is.  She changes; everyone notices the difference.  Everyone
says, "My, you've really come to some insights, haven't you?"  She has, and
they can see the difference in her behavior, in her body, in her face.  You
always do when there's an inner change.  It always registers in your face,
in your eyes, in your body.  Well, the sister goes back to her community,
and since the community has a prejudiced, fixed idea about her, they're
going to continue to look at her through the eyes of that
prejudice.  They're the only ones who don't see any change in her.  They
say, "Oh well, she seems a little more spirited, but just wait, she'll be
depressed again."  And within a few weeks she is depressed again; she's
reacting to their reaction.  And they all say, "See, we told you so; she
hadn't changed."  But the tragedy is that she had, only they didn't see
it.  Perception has devastating consequences in the matter of love and
human relationships.

Whatever a relationship may be, it certainly entails two things: clarity of
perception (inasmuch as we're capable of it; some people would dispute to
what extent we can attain clarity of perception, but I don't think anyone
would dispute that it is desirable that we move toward it) and accuracy of
response.  You're more likely to respond accurately when you perceive
clearly.  When your perception is distorted, you're not likely to respond
accurately.  How can you love someone whom you do not even see?  Do you
really see someone you re attached to?  Do you really see someone you're
afraid of and therefore dislike?  We always hate what we fear.
Back to top
 

Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right. (neznan(a)
 
IP Logged
 
ARS
5
*****
Offline

Preveč dobrega je lahko
... čudovito. (Mae West)

Posts: 2510
daleč od rodne barjanske grude
Gender: female
35 - HUGGING MEMORIES  -  Part II
Reply #58 - 24.10.2002 at 20:57:26
 
"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom," people say to me
sometimes.  But wait a minute.  I hope they understand what they're saying,
because we always hate what we fear.  We always want to destroy and get rid
of and avoid what we fear.  When you fear somebody, you dislike that
person.  You dislike that person insofar as you fear that person.  And you
don't see that person either, because your emotion gets in the way.  Now,
that's just as true when you are attracted to someone.  When true love
enters, you no longer like or even dislike people in the ordinary sense of
the word.  You see them clearly and you respond accurately.  But at this
human level, your likes and dislikes and preferences and attractions, etc.,
continue to get in the way.  So you have to be aware of your prejudices,
your likes, your dislikes, your attractions.  They're all there, they come
from your conditioning.  How come you like things that I don't
like?  Because your culture is different from mine.  Your upbringing is
different from mine.  If I gave you some of the things to eat that I
relish, you'd turn away in disgust.

There are people in certain parts of India who love dog flesh.  Yet others,
if they were told they were being served dog steak, would feel
sick.  Why?  Different conditioning, different programming.  Hindus would
feel sick if they knew they had eaten beef, but Americans enjoy it.  You
ask, "But why won't they eat beef?"  For the same reason you won't eat your
pet dog.  The same reason.  The cow, to the Indian peasant, is what your
pet dog is to you.  He doesn't want to eat it.  There is a built-in
cultural prejudice against it which saves an animal that's needed so much
for farming, etc.

So why do I fall in love with a person really?  Why is it that I fall in
love with one kind of person and not another?  Because I'm
conditioned.  I've got an image, subconsciously, that this particular type
of person appeals to me, attracts me.  So when I meet this person, I fall
head over heels in love.  But have I seen her?  No!  I'll see her after I
marry her; that's when the awakening comes!   And that's when love may
begin.  But falling in love has nothing to do with love at all.  It isn't
love, it's desire, burning desire.  You want, with all your heart, to be
told by this adorable creature that you're attractive to her.  That gives
you a tremendous sensation.  Meanwhile, everybody else is saying, "What the
hell does he see in her?"  But it's his conditioning -- he's not
seeing.  They say that love is blind.  Believe me, there's nothing so
clear-sighted as true love, nothing.  It's the most clear-sighted thing in
the world.  Addiction is blind, attachments are blind.  Clinging, craving,
and desire are blind.  But not true love.  Don't call them love.  But, of
course, the word has been desecrated in most modern languages.  People talk
about making love and falling in love.  Like the little boy who says to the
little girl, "Have you ever fallen in love?"  And she answers, "No, but
I've fallen in like."

So what are people talking about when they fall in love?  The first thing
we need is clarity of perception.  One reason we don't perceive people
clearly is evident-- our emotions get in the way, our conditioning, our
likes and dislikes.  We've got to grapple with that fact.  But we've got to
grapple with something much more fundamental -- with our ideas, with our
conclusions, with our concepts.  Believe it or not, every concept that was
meant to help us get in touch with reality ends up by being a barrier to
getting in touch with reality, because sooner or later we forget that the
words are not the thing.  The concept is not the same as the
reality.  They're different.  That's why I said to you earlier that the
final barrier to finding God is the word "God" itself and the concept of
God.  It gets in the way if you're not careful.  It was meant to be a help;
it can be a help, but it can also be a barrier.
Back to top
 

Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right. (neznan(a)
 
IP Logged
 
ARS
5
*****
Offline

Preveč dobrega je lahko
... čudovito. (Mae West)

Posts: 2510
daleč od rodne barjanske grude
Gender: female
36 - GETTING CONCRETE  -  Part I
Reply #59 - 24.10.2002 at 21:00:13
 
Every time I have a concept, it is something that I could apply to a number
of individuals.  We're not talking about a concrete, particular name like
Mary or John, which doesn't have a conceptual meaning.  A concept applies
to any number of individuals, countless individuals.  Concepts are
universal.  For instance, the word "leaf" could be applied to every single
leaf on a tree; the same word applies to all those individual
leaves.  Moreover, the same word applies to all the leaves on all trees,
big ones, small ones, tender ones, dried ones, yellow ones, green ones,
banana leaves.  So if I say to you that I saw a leaf this morning, you
really don't have an idea of what I saw.

Let's see if you can understand that.  You do have an idea of what I did
not see.  I did not see an animal.  I did not see a dog.  I did not see a
human being.  I did not see a shoe.  So you have some kind of a vague idea
of what I saw, but it isn't particularized, it isn't concrete.  "Human
being" refers not to primitive man, not to civilized man, not to grownup
man, not to a child, not to a male or a female, not to this particular age
or another, not to this culture or the other, but to the concept.  The
human being is found concrete; you never find a universal human being like
your concept.  So your concept points, but it is never entirely accurate;
it misses uniqueness, concreteness.  The concept is universal.

When I give you a concept, I give you something, and yet how little I have
given you.  The concept is so valuable, so useful for science.  For
instance, if I say that everyone here is an animal, that would be perfectly
accurate from a scientific viewpoint.  But we're something more than
animals.  If I say that Mary Jane is an animal, that's true; but because
I've omitted something essential about her, it's false; it does her an
injustice.  When I call a person a woman, that's true; but there are lots
of things in that person that don't fit into the concept "woman."  She is
always this particular, concrete, unique woman, who can only be
experienced, not conceptualized.  The concrete person I've got to see for
myself, to experience for myself, to intuit for myself.  The individual can
be intuited but cannot be conceptualized.

A person is beyond the thinking mind.  Many of you would probably be proud
to be called Americans, as many Indians would probably be proud to be
called Indians.  But what is "American," what is "Indian"?  It's a
convention; it's not part of your nature.  All you've got is a label.  You
really don't know the person.  The concept always misses or omits something
extremely important, something precious that is only found in reality,
which is concrete uniqueness.  The great Krishnamurti put it so well when
he said, "The day you teach the child the name of the bird, the child will
never see that bird again."  How true! The first time the child sees that
fluffy, alive, moving object, and you say to him, "Sparrow," then tomorrow
when the child sees another fluffy, moving object similar to it he says,
"Oh, sparrows.  I've seen sparrows.  I'm bored by sparrows."

If you don't look at things through your concepts, you'll never be
bored.  Every single thing is unique.  Every sparrow is unlike every other
sparrow despite the similarities.  It's a great help to have similarities,
so we can abstract, so that we can have a concept.  It's a great help, from
the point of view of communication, education, science.  But it's also very
misleading and a great hindrance to seeing this concrete individual.  If
all you experience is your concept, you're not experiencing reality,
because reality is concrete.  The concept is a help, to lead you to
reality, but when you get there, you've got to intuit or experience it
directly.
Back to top
 

Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right. (neznan(a)
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 ... 8