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Re: Sporočila in dnevne meditacije ŠAMANOV
Reply #15 - 28.05.2003 at 19:34:30
 
prevod po inspiraciji Kali in Marjane  Wink
Meditacija starešin za 28. maj
"Zemlja je sveta naložba, na splošno namenjena za dobrobit prihodnosti naših narodov."
--Haida Gwaii - Tradicionalni krog starešin

Stvarnik je naredil Zemljo v podporo življenju, da bi se življenje nadaljevalo, da bi se vse podpiralo in da bi prihodnje generacije imele enako ugodnost zalog in lepot, kot generacije pred njimi (če je namest pro- mišljen pre- ???) Ta cikel se bo nadaljeval samo do stopnje, kjer mi izbiramo in odločamo za prihodnje generacije. Danes smo preveč pohlepni in sebični. Goljufamo svoje otroke, vnuke in nerojene otroke.

Stvarnik, naj uvidim posledice svojih odločitev in pokaži mi, kako jih zdravo popraviti.
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Re: Sporočila in dnevne meditacije ŠAMANOV
Reply #16 - 29.05.2003 at 15:09:59
 
HVALA EVA! Kiss


Elder's Meditation of the Day - May 29  

"Humility is probably the most difficult virtue to realize."  
--Thomas Yellowtail, CROW

 
Two definitions of humility are (1) being aware of one's own defects of character, and (2) giving credit where credit is due. This means if you do something and are successful because God gave you certain talents, give credit to God when someone tells you how well you did; this is being humble. If you are successful at something, but had help from friends, spouse, neighbors, give credit to those who helped you; this is being humble. If you have done a task and you alone accomplished it, give credit to yourself; this is being humble. Say the truth and give credit where credit is due.  

Grandfather, let me walk a truthful road today.


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Re: Sporočila in dnevne meditacije ŠAMANOV
Reply #17 - 29.05.2003 at 20:13:36
 
ah, ah, hvala Kali (nehi mi vzbujat občutek dolžnosti  Grin Grin (oh, jest, jest  Tongue Roll Eyes))

"Ponižnost je verjetno najtežje dosegljiva vrlina."
Thomas Yellowtail (Rumenorepi  Wink), VRAN

Dve definiciji ponižnosti sta (1) zavedati se svojih značajskih napak in (2) hvaliti, ko je hvala na mestu. To pomeni: če nekaj počneš in si uspešen, ker ti je Bog dal določene talente, hvali Boga, ko ti nekdo reče, da si se dobro odrezal; to pomeni ponižnost. Če si pri nečem uspešen pa so ti pomagali prijatelji, soprog/a, sosedje, hvali tiste, ki so ti pomagali; to pomeni ponižnost. Če si sam izvršil nalogo, hvali sebe; to pomeni ponižnost. Govori resnico in hvali kjer je hvala na mestu.
 
Ded, naj danes hodim po resnicoljubni poti.  

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Re: Sporočila in dnevne meditacije ŠAMANOV
Reply #18 - 30.05.2003 at 09:43:38
 
NATIVE AMERICAN/APACHE CEREMONY (ob poroki)

NOW YOU WILL FEEL NO RAIN, FOR EACH OF YOU WILL BE SHELTER TO THE OTHER.

NOW YOU WILL FEEL NO COLD, FOR EACH OF YOU WILL BE WARMTH TO THE OTHER.

NOW THERE IS NO MORE LONELINESS, FOR EACH OF YOU WILL BE COMPANION TO THE
OTHER.

NOW YOU ARE TWO BODIES, BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE LIFE BEFORE YOU.

GO NOW TO YOUR DWELLING PLACE, TO ENTER INTO THE DAYS OF YOUR TOGETHERNESS.

AND MAY YOUR DAYS BE GOOD AND LONG UPON THE EARTH.

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Joj kolk radi drug drugemu izdiramo iveri iz oči! Cheesy
 
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Reply #19 - 30.05.2003 at 09:50:52
 
Eva, hvala! Grin Kiss




Elder's Meditation of the Day May 30

"Power comes and goes. It can vanish in the twinkling of an eye, like smoke dissolving in the air."
--Archie Fire Lame Deer, LAKOTA


The East, South, West and North are the powers of the four directions. The Creator makes these powers available to do things. We pray to the Creator to give us the power to do these things. Often, we are given these powers for a while, then these powers disappear. Power is given and taken from us by the Great Spirit, the source of power. During the time we have this power, we should be responsible and use the power in a good way. Many good things can be accomplished when we realize where this power really comes from.

Great Spirit, today, show me how to use Your power.
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Re: Sporočila in dnevne meditacije ŠAMANOV
Reply #20 - 30.05.2003 at 10:51:36
 
Petra. wrote on 30.05.2003 at 09:50:52:
Eva, hvala! Grin Kiss



Kali, Ni za kej  Cheesy Tongue Tongue Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #21 - 30.05.2003 at 10:58:01
 
btw Čestitam Gaji k prvemu zobku. Glede na moje izkušnje z mojimi nečaki, zna postati mali grizly. Wink Grin
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Re: Sporočila in dnevne meditacije ŠAMANOV
Reply #22 - 30.05.2003 at 11:12:19
 
Sej se mi je zdel, d ane boš tko zlahka odnehala  Grin (sej je prou fino prevest en tak kratek besediuček na dan)

"Moč pride in gre. Izgine lahko v trenu očesa, kakor dim, ki se razkadi v zraku."
--Archie Ogenj Lamé (tkanina) Jelen/Srna, LAKOTA

Vzhod, Jug, Zahod in Sever so moči štirih smeri. Stvarnik omogoči tem močem delovanje. Molimo k stvarniku, da nam dá te moči za delovanje. Pogosto začasno dobimo te moči, potem pa izginejo. Moč nam da in jo odvzame od nas Veliki Duh, izvor moči. V času, ko imamo to moč, moramo biti odgovorni in uporabiti moč na dober način. Veliko dobrega se da opraviti, ko spoznamo, od kje ta moč resnično prihaja.

Veliki Duh, danes mi pokaži kako uporabiti Tvojo moč.
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Re: Sporočila in dnevne meditacije ŠAMANOV
Reply #23 - 01.06.2003 at 15:38:57
 
Elder's Meditation of the Day - May 31  

"Sell a country? Why not sell the air, the great sea, as well as the earth? Did not the Great Spirit make them all for the use of his children?"  

--Tecumseh, SHAWNEE  



The White Man's way is to possess, control and divide. It has always been difficult for Indian people to understand this. There are certain things we cannot own that must be shared. The Land is one of these things. We need to re-look as what what we are doing to the Earth. We are digging in her veins and foolishly diminishing the natural resources. We are not living in balance. We do not own the Earth; the Earth owns us. Today, let us ponder the true relationship between the Earth and ourselves.  

Great Spirit, today, let me see the Earth as you would have me see Her.

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Elder's Meditation of the Day - June 1

"You have to have a lot of patience to hear those old people talk, because when they talk, they talk about motivation, the feeling, the unsound that is around the universe. They explain everything to one understanding. They bring it all together, and when they finish, just one word comes out. Just one word. They might talk all day, and just one word comes out."

--Wallace Black Elk, LAKOTA

We need to be careful about judging the old ones when we talk. At first they may not make sense to us. Maybe we'll say they're old fashioned and don't understand. But the old ones do understand! When they speak, listen very carefully. Often it will take weeks or maybe even years before we understand what they are really saying. This is the way of Wisdom. We need to listen, listen, listen.  

Great Spirit, today, open my ears so I can hear the Elders.



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Re: Sporočila in dnevne meditacije ŠAMANOV
Reply #24 - 02.06.2003 at 09:07:38
 
Elder's Meditation of the Day June 2

"The Natural Law is the final and absolute authority governing E Te No Ha, the earth we call our Mother."

--Traditional Circle of Elders


There is no power greater than the Natural Laws. These powers were set up by the Great Spirit in such a way that the human being has no access to it, except by obeying. If we choose not to follow the Natural Laws, our live will be filled with confusion, tension, anxiety and stress. If we poison the Earth, we poison ourselves. If we poison the Water of the Earth, we poison ourselves. As we do to the Earth, we do to ourselves and our children, even the children unborn. May we think about this today and ask ourselves, "Are we holding and acting toward the Mother Earth in a good way?"


Great Spirit, teach me the Natural Laws that govern the Earth.
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Re: Sporočila in dnevne meditacije ŠAMANOV
Reply #25 - 02.06.2003 at 16:52:57
 
m wrote on 30.05.2003 at 09:43:38:
NATIVE AMERICAN/APACHE CEREMONY (ob poroki)

NOW YOU WILL FEEL NO RAIN, FOR EACH OF YOU WILL BE SHELTER TO THE OTHER.

NOW YOU WILL FEEL NO COLD, FOR EACH OF YOU WILL BE WARMTH TO THE OTHER.

NOW THERE IS NO MORE LONELINESS, FOR EACH OF YOU WILL BE COMPANION TO THE
OTHER.

NOW YOU ARE TWO BODIES, BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE LIFE BEFORE YOU.

GO NOW TO YOUR DWELLING PLACE, TO ENTER INTO THE DAYS OF YOUR TOGETHERNESS.

AND MAY YOUR DAYS BE GOOD AND LONG UPON THE EARTH.



Ameriški domorodski/apaški obred

Zdaj ne bosta čutila dežja, saj bo vsak izmed vaju drugemu zavetišče.
Zdaj ne bosta čutila mraza, ker bo vsak izmed vaju drugemu toplota.
Zdaj ni več samote, ker bo vsak izmed vaju drugemu spremljevalec.
Zdaj sta dve telesi, a pred vama je le eno življenje.
Pojdita zdaj v svoje domovanje, da vstopita v dneve vajine skupnosti.
In naj bodo vajini dnevi na Zemlji dobri in dolgi.
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Re: Sporočila in dnevne meditacije ŠAMANOV
Reply #26 - 02.06.2003 at 18:52:49
 
Petra. wrote on 01.06.2003 at 15:38:57:
Elder's Meditation of the Day - May 31  

"Sell a country? Why not sell the air, the great sea, as well as the earth? Did not the Great Spirit make them all for the use of his children?"  

--Tecumseh, SHAWNEE  



The White Man's way is to possess, control and divide. It has always been difficult for Indian people to understand this. There are certain things we cannot own that must be shared. The Land is one of these things. We need to re-look as what what we are doing to the Earth. We are digging in her veins and foolishly diminishing the natural resources. We are not living in balance. We do not own the Earth; the Earth owns us. Today, let us ponder the true relationship between the Earth and ourselves.  

Great Spirit, today, let me see the Earth as you would have me see Her.


Prodati deželo? Zakaj ne prodati zraka, velikega morja, kot tudi zemlje? Mar jih ni Veliki Duh vseh napravil za uporabo za svoje otroke?

--Tecumseh, SHAWNEE

Način Belega Moža je posedovati, kontrolirati in deliti. Za indijansko ljudstvo je bilo to vedno težko razumljivo. So določene stvari, ki jih ne moremo posedovati in si jih je treba deliti. Zemlja je ena izmed teh stvari. Ponovno moramo pogledati, kaj delamo Zemlji. Kopljemo v njene vene in brezumno zmanjšujemo naravne vire. Ne živimo v ravnovesju. Ne posedujemo Zemlje; Zemlja nas poseduje. Danes razmislimo o resničnem odnosu med Zemljo in nami.

Veliki Duh, danes naj vidim Zemljo, kot naj bi Jo po tvojem videl.
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Re: Sporočila in dnevne meditacije ŠAMANOV
Reply #27 - 02.06.2003 at 19:32:05
 
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Prodati deželo? Zakaj ne prodati zraka, velikega morja, kot tudi zemlje? Mar jih ni Veliki Duh vseh napravil za uporabo za svoje otroke?

--Tecumseh, SHAWNEE

Način Belega Moža je posedovati, kontrolirati in deliti. Za indijansko ljudstvo je bilo to vedno težko razumljivo. So določene stvari, ki jih ne moremo posedovati in si jih je treba deliti. Zemlja je ena izmed teh stvari. Ponovno moramo pogledati, kaj delamo Zemlji. Kopljemo v njene vene in brezumno zmanjšujemo naravne vire. Ne živimo v ravnovesju. Ne posedujemo Zemlje; Zemlja nas poseduje. Danes razmislimo o resničnem odnosu med Zemljo in nami.

Veliki Duh, danes naj vidim Zemljo, kot naj bi Jo po tvojem videl.



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Re: Sporočila in dnevne meditacije ŠAMANOV
Reply #28 - 02.06.2003 at 20:44:08
 
Elder's Meditation of the Day - June 1

"Imeti moraš veliko potrpljenja, da poslušaš tiste stare ljudi, kajti ko govorijo, govorijo o motivaciji, občutku, nezanesljivem (?) ki je okrog vesolja. Vse razložijo v eno razumevanje. Vse združijo in ko zaključijo, pride ven ena sama beseda. Ena sama beseda. Govorijo lahko cel dan in ven pride ena sma beseda."

--Wallace Črni Los, LAKOTA

Ko govorimo, je potrebna previdnost pri presojanju starejših. Sprva za nas ne bodo imeli smisla. Mogoče bomo rekli, da so staromodni in ne razumejo. Toda starejši razumejo! Ko govorijo, poslušajte zelo pozorno. Pogosto bo trajalo tedne ali morda celo leta, preden bomo razumeli, kaj zares pravijo. To je način modrosti. Potrebno je poslušati, poslušati, poslušati.

Veliki Duh, danes odpri moja ušesa, da bom lahko slišal Starešine.
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Reply #29 - 02.06.2003 at 20:56:14
 
Elder's Meditation of the Day June 2

"Zakon Narave je končna in absolutna avtoriteta, ki vlada E Te No Ha -i, zemlji, ki ji pravimo naša Mati."

--Tradicionalni Krog Starešin

Nobena moč ni mogočnejša od Zakonov Narave. Te moči je postavil Veliki Duh na tak način, da človeško bitje nima dostopa do njih, razen če uboga. Če izberemo, da ne bomo sledili Zakonom narave, bo naše življenje polno zmede, napetosti, zaskrbljenosti in stresa. Če zastrupljamo Zemljo, zastrupljamo sebe. Če zastrupljamo Vode Zemlje, zastrupljamo sebe. Kot ravnamo z Zemljo, tako ravnamo s sabo in s svojimi otroki, tudi z nerojenimi otroki. Naj danes razmisimo o tem in se vprašamo: "Ali sta naša drža in ravnanje do Matere Zemlje dobra?"

Veliki Duh, nauči me Naravnih zakonov, ki vladajo Zemlji.
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