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Re: BIO ...
Reply #15 - 08.04.2002 at 14:48:22
 
Tako, tako, Gape! Kiss
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Reply #16 - 19.03.2003 at 14:41:47
 
Cool Fuel Cells
Fuel cells promise to be the environmentally-friendly power source of the future, but some types run too hot to be practical. NASA-funded research may have a solution.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/18mar_fuelcell.htm?list555071

a je to bio ???
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Reply #17 - 19.03.2003 at 15:56:08
 
Gape, fino da si ta topik našel. So namreč tudi začeli izdelovati gorivo iz jojobe. Problem je v tem, ker je pridelovanje jojobe zelo drago. Skratka, američani ne znajo kaj pametnega pogruntat, kot neki s čim bojo služili???  Cheesy btw nameravam legalizacijo konoplje (se pravi vseh industrijskih izdelokov iz konoplje)!! 8)
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Reply #18 - 20.03.2003 at 02:43:10
 
Lips SealedGlede jojobinega olja namesto goriva to so odkrili v Egiptu, Arabskih Emiratih...

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993464
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Joj kolk radi drug drugemu izdiramo iveri iz oči! Cheesy
 
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Reply #20 - 22.03.2003 at 22:48:42
 
Dragi moji, a je kdo od vas bral knjigo o Milarepi?
Ta se je lepo dvignil v zrak in kot avion potoval po deželi. Hkrati se je še istočasno manifestiral na različnih koncih in držal različne govore svojim učencem.
Torej zagarantirano najcenejši ful bio način, ki ne osnažuje okolja, razen, če te ravno takrat, ko si v zraku nekam slučajno ne prime in nimaš časa za pristanek Grin
V zgodovini je znano še nekaj več primerov, celo v Ramajani, ki naj bi nastala pred pet tisoč leti piše, da je Lakshman pogruntal leteči stroj in z njim po mili volji letal naokrog, bogve na kaj je ta stroj takrat šel, na bencin prav gotovo ne, če je živel na današnji Šri Lanki, hvalil pa se je celo, da je sposoben spremeniti vso slanost  vseh oceanov v sladko vodo, ali celo mleko Grin
Na Žalost je naše mišljenje že tako prilagojeno na 0 in 1,
da drugače kot škatlasto sploh ne znamo več razmišljati ???
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Re: BIO ...
Reply #21 - 11.08.2003 at 12:27:09
 

Spodi se sicer enmal ponavlja (4 posti), kar je bilo tukajle že povedano, vse pa tut ne.
Merci, ker je iz drugega, novega threada (zatem pobrisanega) sem prestavljeno ...



Avto - rastlinsko namesto plinskega olja!


I went camping at the Big Green Gathering; a meeting place for people with an interest in alternative lifestyles from all over the world. I struck up some fascinating conversations with a team of craft workers who had come all the way from Byron Bay.  

And I also met a man who he is about to tour Britain in a car that runs entirely on vegetable oil.  
His name is Daniel Blackburn and I quizzed him carefully about this.  
"Ordinary vegetable oil? The kind you fry chips in?"
"Absolutely," he replied "Straight from the supermarket."
"But you can't just pour it into your tank can you?"

Daniel looked at me with the air of a man who is used to dealing with unbelievers. "Well," he said, "It only works in diesel engines and you do have to make a few adjustments first - but whether you choose to tweak your engine or tweak the oil, it's not very expensive or difficult."

At this point, I began to get rather excited and Daniel stood patiently while I unleashed a stream of questions. Here, roughly speaking, are his answers. "No, it doesn't harm your engine or spoil the performance."

"Yes, it DOES work with oil that has been used for frying - just as long as you filter it first."
"No, it doesn't stop you from using ordinary diesel if you ever still want to."
"Yes, of course it is better for the environment."
Suddenly, a horrible thought struck me. "Hang on," I said, "Isn't it illegal?"

"Aha!" he replied brightly, "You are thinking of the folk in West Wales who got prosecuted last year. That's because they weren't paying tax on their oil. The way the law stands, you are supposed to DECLARE every drop you use for driving and then pay 26p per litre to the government. As long as you do that, they can't touch you!"

"Oh," I said. "I bet that means a pile of paperwork."
"No, you just call 0845 010 9000 and they send you a simple form. And you still pay less tax than you would on the garage forecourt. Normal Diesel is taxed at 40p per litre."

Daniel is an Aquarian, aged 32. He lives on a small farm in Pembrokeshire and today, he is setting off on in his black Citroen ZX 1.9 turbo diesel on the 850 mile trek from Land's End to John O Groats.

He has promised to let me know how his journey goes and I, in turn, shall pass on any news I get.  
Or you can follow his progress yourself, at: www.Vegoilmotoring.com.  
And if you want to know how to convert your own car to run on cooking oil,  
just contact the Low Impact Living Initiative at: www.lowimpact.org.

by Jonathan Cainer


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Reply #22 - 11.08.2003 at 12:27:37
 
Quote:
ja staro staro je to...

ampak dobr dela...

drugač pa vodik je zdej v igri, sicer se da bojda mal bencina za to, da se pretvorba iz vode dela, ampak majko če pokurš 2 l na 1000 km se pa ja splača a? se fantje že dolg dolg časa vozjo...

google linke najde v 0.15 s, sam se ti mora dat šravfat, sam men se ne ampak kdo vem, morda bom koga najdu ki to že zna...   Wink

voda H20 na po(pol) pravjo da je to to.

se pravi ko dobiš H2 in O

je prav lepo  Wink
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Reply #23 - 11.08.2003 at 12:28:08
 

Frendovo jutranje dopolnilo je v nadaljevanju,
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BIO DIESEL, kot ga uradno imenujejo,  
je že lep čas na naši zemljici, le da ni zanimiv za naftne lobije,  
ker tako izgubijo kontrolo nad enim delom svetovnega gospodarstva.  

Pri nas ga uporabljajo v PINUS-u, v Račah (pridobivajo ga kot stranski produkt pri proizvodnji kemikalij).  
Na Češkem pa že obstajajo na bencinskih črpalkah normalne črpalke z bio-dieslom.
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Re: BIO ...
Reply #24 - 11.08.2003 at 12:28:40
 

Ha, še en frend mi je repliko na gornje poslal ...
... sem očitno ena izmed redkih, ki vse do danes o bio dieslu pojma nis(m)o imeli ...
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Če ti pa še povem, da poznam tipa, ki ga sam doma filtira iz odpadnega olja od
restavracij in toči v svojo Xantio Break TurboD - kaj boš pa šele potem rekla  Shocked

Je pa doma v tam nekje bliz Kamnka - kremenit Slovenc torej  Cheesy

Avto diši ko friteza  Cheesy  Resno ...

Ja, to bo prihodnost ...   Grin
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Re: BIO ...
Reply #25 - 12.08.2003 at 10:59:33
 
V Evropski skupnosti gre ogromno denarja za subvencije kmetom, da ne bi obdelovali polj. Če bi ti kmetje pridelovali surovino za bio dizel, bi denar od subvencij lahko porabili za kaj boljšega, kot podpiranje "nedela", pa še znebili bi se odvisnosti od pridelovalcev nafte. Samo lobi je zaenkrat prehud, Amerika rules  Sad.

Sicer pa, jaz bi kupila električen avto takoj, ampak tudi tukaj je lobi prehud.

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Reply #26 - 13.08.2003 at 08:04:41
 
včeri je bla tekma shella z poskusnimi vozili na vodik.

prevoz z 1 kestlom vodika je dolg 16.000 km.  Grin

hm, se komu kolcne?

vozila so za eno osebo in gredo povprečno do 29km/h trenutno
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Reply #27 - 13.08.2003 at 12:51:12
 
V Thiaooubski prerokbi omenjajo motor na vodikov pogon, da je to najboljša alternativa za pogon vozil.
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Reply #28 - 13.08.2003 at 13:50:32
 
Baje da za proizvodnjo vodika potrebno ogromno energije (npr. za pridobivanje H iz H2O), tko da to ni niti ekološko niti ekomsko upravičeno. Za izgoretim H-jem  res ostane samo H2O, ampak problem je do čistga H-ja v količinah, primernih za množično pogonsko sredstvo, prit... Undecided ?. Kdo bi vedu kaj več o tem?

Jest mislm, da je najbolj bio čim manj česarkoli kurit (dons pr 40 stopinjah sem o tem še posebej prepričan Tongue).
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Reply #29 - 14.08.2003 at 08:51:48
 
titud, mal preglej googleta, boš videl sem že enkrat reku za proizvodnjo vodika in za 1000 km rabiš samo 2 litrčka benza, pomoje da tudi tolk ni reba sam za začetek, vodik itak izhaja sam, če znaš prave stvari skupi spravit, napr elektroliza.

sam več pa branje je na voljo, mogoč se bomo čez 10 let k bo to in vsi vozl na vodik, ker zdej je to tolk naprej in v javnost šlo da je shell pokrovitelj tekme, tko da je že ok, prej so mal bl oviral sam zdej pa ni panike.

sam mal mor bit mehanika da to sk spraviš, sam večina tle gor je bolj v duhovnih vodah tko da bomo kaj kar kupl ane?  Grin
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