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Re: EGO
Reply #90 - 26.05.2003 at 23:11:18
 
gape wrote on 26.05.2003 at 23:08:16:
si zihr?

Če govorimo o višjem Jazu, potem mislim, da ne? Oziroma ima vezo, ker je od tega seveda neposredno odvisen tvoj način in izbira med delovanjem in nedelovanjem. Druge povezave ne vidim, ali je pač še kakšna?
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Why? There is no why! Why is a mind f**king word!
 
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Reply #91 - 27.05.2003 at 16:48:22
 
Smiley kot je rekel in zapel
moj priljubljen pesnik in mojster Nanak, že pred 500 leti o srcu in egu sledeče,
s čimer se sam seveda globoko strinjam. Smiley


Srce in ego,
sta na nasprotnih straneh.

Onadva ne moreta obstajati,
na istem mestu hkrati.
Ego ne more služiti Bogu
in to življenje ostane brez smisla.

Prijatelj meditiraj na Boga,
zasluži si, kar mojster daje,
sledi njegovim navodilom
in tvoj ego bo izginil.

Ves ta svet, je en sam ego,
rojen je v egu in v egu tudi gre.
Ego je ogromna jama teme,
nihče ne najde jasnosti v njem.

V egu ni predanosti,
ego nima modrosti,
duša postane ujeta v ego
in zavestnost oslabi.

Nanak je našel svojega mojstra
in njegov ego je izginil,
dojel je smisel življenja.

Zaslužil je bistvo,
živel je resnico,
služil je resničnosti
in postal eno z njo. Smiley

brez prepoznanja notranje svetlobe,
absoluta, ali sebstva,
se res nikomur niti ne sanja,
kaj ego v bistvu je
in tudi zadnji berač,
ki jo je res doživel,
ve več o egu, kot vsi današnji "Freudi" Wink
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Reply #92 - 28.05.2003 at 17:34:53
 
What do you dislike about yourself?

Your addiction to your ego; dramas; your intellect; lack; to avoiding being bored; your suffering; your patterns of control.  

We all have aspects of our beingness, that are unlovable, yet paradoxically all is love, so these of course are loved.

But what is also loved and allowed by All That Is - is that place where we judge; and cause pain; and reject; and manipulate; and control - where we use lust, and pride, and envy, and sloth.  

These are allowed; they are part of the wholeness; so it's about allowing these aspects to just be - because the more you try to get rid of them the more they will be in your face - because they are where your attention is.
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Reply #93 - 28.05.2003 at 17:37:02
 
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Reply #94 - 19.06.2003 at 03:58:04
 
Quote:
seveda.

ker kvaliteta "zavesti" iz katere smo mi, je po naravi  "sluzenjska", odvisniska. tj. sama po seb neodvisno ne more obstajat.

kot sm ti ze velikrat povedu, vsa individualna ziva bitja (tud tista ki imajo trenutno clovesko telo) so delcek ene izmed potenc Boga, ki je gospodar vseh potenc (njihov izvor, in po logiki tud "zavetisce" vseh svojih potenc).

kvaliteta materiala iz katerga smo mi, se imenuje "mejna" (zarad svoje specificne narave) ker kot taka stalno potrebuje neko "zavetje". ce ne vzame zavetja notranje potence Boga (in ga sluzi v vecnosti), bo obvezno morala vzeti zavetje njegove zunanje potence (maye, iluzije) in se zacela poistovecat s tem ali onim (materialnim grobim ali subtilnim telesom, in z vsem trpljenjem ki spada zraven kot posledica tega).

ko/ce se tega zmotnega poistovecanja "odresi", postane njegova identiteta "sluga Boga", ki je vecna, cista (brez kakrsnihkoli materialnih primesi) in seveda blazena. ne zamenjevat te identitete s stanjem uma ki se ga da manipulirat z eksternimi sugestivnimi metodami. to je stanje zavesti duse (za razliko od stanja subtilnega telesa tj. mentalnega sistema  tko zavednega kot nezavednega, ki doloca in lahko vpliva le na aktivnosti ki jih izvaja grobo telo).

al sluzis enmu  al pa sluzis drugmu, rezultat je seveda pol razlicen. in tud nben mi ne more dokazat (ali sebi, ce premore kancek iskrenosti) da je dozivel vec kot le trenutek, ko ni sluzil nikomur.




* mi trpimo sam zarad napacnega delovanja, ne zarad delovanja samega. pravilno delovanje je tisto ki nas izpolne. *
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Reply #95 - 22.07.2003 at 01:31:55
 
Ego – The Owner's Manual
By  Lisa Marie Gutowski

ON OUR WAY TO REMEMBERING OUR TRUE SELVES, which is the point of being
here, we have assistance from a variety of sources. Some are high on the
vibrationary energy scale, such as angels, guides, ascended masters, and
our higher selves. This is assistance from our love sources, and we can
respond in kind with their help.

The opposite of the love response is fear, and if we so choose, we can
use the resources of the lower, slower vibrations, which are known in psychology as defense mechanisms. At the root of all that is not love is fear.

The need for self-protection, self defense, a safe haven for our soul as
it heals and gains ground against the harshness of the perceived world
is a vital part of the human experience. Feeling safe to awaken the
higher aspects of the self is important; healing and awakening will not
occur in a fear state. Unless we are able to invite wholeness to be us,
it will not, we have to want it enough to be available to it. Until we
can "drop our guard" we can embrace nothing.

The Universe is an energy realm where all is but perception. Buried deep
within each cell is the total recollection of every emotion, event, thought, deed, and memory, as we have perceived it from conception. What is stored is energy, and energy can be altered. Energy is just energy, neither positive or negative in its basic state. We assign the positive/negative/neutral aspect to it for our use. Our thoughts are pure energy, and only we are responsible for them. It takes conscious energy to alter another energy pattern. By our thoughts we are able to change the very patterns of energy trapped in our DNA. By learning how
to consciously take the helm on our incoming/outgoing energy patterns,
we can stop the accumulation of negatively charged energy that decreases
the flow of healing and ascension. The second, equally important aspect
is to clear out the remaining stagnant negative energy that has been
trapped in our bodies, causing dis-ease. Piece of cake, right?

As we come into the physical world, we are like pristine lakes, filled
with freshly fallen rain from the heavenly realms. Some lakes have
strong swift currents in them, as they are connected to other bodies of
water. This refreshes the lake, nurturing and revitalizing the life that
resides in it, cleansing the entire eco-system that surrounds it. Some
lakes have remained stagnant, cut off from the fresh input of clean
water for so long, life is no longer a viable option. Sound like anyone
you know? We can resuscitate the sluggish places in ourselves with
intent, with love, and with patience. Then the people who surround us
will start to be enlived by our very presence. That's another story.

Universal intelligence equips us with all that we need for
enlightenment, for cleansing, for healing, for coming back to spirit.
The energy systems that spring from and form our bodies can be used for
the defense of our being while we heal; this is the lower vibrational
resource. Each chakra, every layer of our auric field can be employed
for our benefit. Once a knowledge base is achieved, akin to a user's
manual, and our base line motives are revealed, we can see where our
major defense mechanisms spring from, and decide on a course of action
to heal them. Healing our core issues builds strength, not only in our
personalities, but in our energetic systems. We can then alter the
resource we use to react to day-to-day issues.

When we are solid in ourselves, secure in our environment, and at peace
with our spiritual wisdom, we become an immoveable force, impenetrable
to outside disturbances. We are able to function fully, expressing our
true selves entirely, not rock solid like the oak tree, which breaks in
the storm, but having a flexible strength, like the willow, able to bend
and flow in any situation. Becoming the willow will require a
willingness to see honestly, in complete openness, the truth of one's
self. It takes time, patience, and practice, with a load of grace on the
side...a never-ending process to be sure. Humans are complex beings,
able to hide our deepest truths, not only from others, but also from
ourselves.

The ego is with us from birth; it is the self, the instinct to survive,
the desire by which we discover our uniqueness. It is from the ego that
fear based defense mechanisms arise. Whether we choose to respond to the
stimulus before us in love or fear, it is reinforced by repeated use. We
have neural pathways in our brains, which as we learn or do anything get
reinforced, like ruts in the road, becoming deeper and wider with use.

As infants, we are completely open in all our energy systems. Crying to
have our needs met is a physical activity designed to anchor our base
chakra to the earth. As we pull the energy down, we become more
comfortable in our own skin, as it were. With the conscious use of our
ego, remembering ego is neither good nor bad but a tool for our use
while we need it, our higher chakras recede while the lower chakras
build in strength. This also serves us, helping us forget our
prior-to-birth selves, allowing further integration into the physical plane.

We re-enliven our higher chakras gradually as we age, and our self-
centeredness evolves into a more global view. This begins with the
realization that other people are separate beings, then the recognition
of the family unit, then local society. Later we become cognizant of the
world and our place in it. The gradual pace is a defense mechanism
designed so that we are not overloaded by awareness when we are not yet
ready. Defense mechanisms are fail-safe devices, acting as buffers until
we are capable of responding in love, not fear. Once the mechanisms are
recognized, a person can then choose to alter their perceptions, which
changes their behaviors, imprinting new responses to the same stimulus.
The energetic systems then expand, allowing the blocked energy to be
released, causing greater flow throughout the body, increasing health,
awareness, and chi (energy).

The ego, once a valuable protection device, becomes "dispensable". Like
all other defense mechanisms, the ego must decrease as we become
en-light-ened, dropping our heavy, lower vibrational baggage, to walk as
unencumbered light beings. However, until the ego is convinced that we
no longer need its protection, it will fight to survive. That is what it
is designed to do - keep us alive by defending us from all perceived
attacks. Only by the gradual and intentional use of the love responses
(forgiveness, humility, honesty, integrity) instead of the ego based
fear defense mechanisms (blame, shame, guilt, rage,helplessness) can we let the ego disappear completely. Do not give the ego any more power than that; it is a tool, nothing more.

How do we recognize a fear-based response, one that contracts us rather
than expands? By paying extremely close attention to ourselves, gaining
knowledge of how the universe works, and by asking it to be revealed,
while it is occurring or while reflecting on the event.

We are each other's keeper. Every person we have ever come into contact
with is a mirror, showing us our true nature, as we are to them. Every
emotional encounter is charged with what we need to pay attention to in
ourselves. Every situation is one that we have called into existence by
our creative thought energy, useful in our healing even before we are
awake enough to see it.

When the realization that all we have suffered, the pain, the heartache,
the human drama has been for our benefit, that each person has an
individualized path for our mutual growth, and that we can neutralize
fear with knowledge based love really takes hold in our consciousness,
we can end suffering for ourselves. We can walk this earth with
confidence, no longer needing our ego filled defense mechanisms to jump
in front of us for protection. This state of grace is ours for the
asking, but the inner work must be passed through. There are no
shortcuts.

Dissecting the response to the stimulus will allow us to see where the
root has been anchored, how deep it goes, and how we can pull it out
completely. Knowledge is power, and the more we know about ourselves,
the more powerful we become, for ourselves, our communities, our world.
An empowered person has no need for defense mechanisms, no ego issues
to declare. Think of how wonderful this world will be when we cease having
to use this tool to survive.

When we listen to our bodies, emotions, and feel psychically our
energetic bodies, we are able to control the emotional response before
it takes control. By detaching the emotion - using your imagination to
put the emotion on "pause", placing it in a bubble, and putting it
outside of yourself - it looses its charge. We see it for what it truly
is, an emotion, e = energy in motion. When we are no longer personally
attached to the emotion, we no longer have to act on it. If we choose to
bring the emotion back to us, we can at any time. With practice this
becomes easier; the higher the charge on the emotion or the deeper the
defense mechanism is, the more practice is required.

The first step is asking questions when the defensive emotion appears.
What is it? Is it anger? Greed? Jealousy? Hopelessness? Desire? Where on
the body do you feel it originates? How intense is the emotion? Any
defense mechanism can be done to you or come from you. Remember,
everyone is a mirror here to help us see ourselves. Any defense
mechanism can aid a person in avoiding the core issue.

There are seven major chakras in the body. Each has a function differing
from the others yet are connected by the energetic system which runs
through our body. Surrounding us like an egg is the aura, each layer
corresponding to a chakra. The energy of the emotion can be felt in or
near a chakra, or if you are sensitive to energy scanning, can be felt
in the layers of the aura. A brief explanation of which chakra correlates with which defense mechanism will help you understand how the body stores and uses these emotions.


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Reply #96 - 22.07.2003 at 01:32:23
 
1st chakra - base, located at the base of the spine at the tailbone in
the back and the pubic bone in the front: Issues of: security, survival,
safety, feelings of anxiety, frustration, helplessness, insecurity, greed, money or sex (men) issues Defense mechanisms: physical abusiveness, rebelling against society or family, body issues like anorexia, obesity, smoking, drug abuse, stealing, overly sexual or impotence, sexual abuse (men). Can feel the emotion: in the sexual organs (men), the hips, legs, feet, lower back.

2nd chakra - tan tien, located two inches below the navel: Issues of:
sex (women), blocked creativity, repressed emotions, immobility. Defense
mechanisms: emotionally explosive, sexual manipulation, need for control
or to be controlled, overly sexual or frigid, emotional withdrawal, sexual abuse (women). Can feel the emotion: in the kidneys, sex organs (women), bowels, lower back, bladder, large intestine.

3rd chakra - solar plexus, two inches below the breastbone: Issues of:
power, ego, pride, self - esteem, blame. Defense mechanisms: overpowering, intimidation, over working or under working, also emotional withdrawal and manipulation (he who cares the least has the most power). Can feel the emotion: in the stomach, liver, nerves, gut, gall bladder, pancreas, small intestines.

4th chakra - heart:
Issues of: love, connecting the upper chakras (spiritual) to the lower
(earthly), paranoia, unworthiness. Defense mechanisms: co-dependency,
emotional blackmail, self-pity. Can feel the emotion: in the chest,
lungs, heart, circulatory system, shoulders, upper back.

5th chakra - throat, in the v at the collarbone at the bottom of the neck:
Issues of: communication, creativity in the written or spoken word.
Defense mechanisms: verbal abuse, uncommunicative, lying, sarcasm. Can
feel the emotion: in the throat, neck, teeth, ears, thyroid, skin.

6th chakra - third eye, between the eyebrows above the eyes: Issues of:
not hearing intuition, superficiality or too literal. Defense mechanisms: daydreaming, pollyanna- ism, being or attracting an energy vampire. Can feel the emotion: in the eyes, face, brain, lymphatic systems, endocrine system

7th chakra - the crown, at the top of the head: Issues of: frustration, lack of joy, destructiveness Defense mechanisms: migraine, depression, fanaticism, overly preoccupied. Can feel the emotion: in the soul, back of head

How does it present itself? Sharp pain like a knife, or dull like novacaine? It can be felt on many levels: is there tension, tightness, is the pain psychological, physical, or emotional? Do you feel heavy, suffocated, controlled, light-headed?

Can you remember the very first time you felt it? Take the emotion
backwards in time. Does it have a taste, a smell, a memory? Identifying
where it is, when it began, or how it affects you is a great indicator
of where the causal fear resides.

Once you know all that you can about the response, again, realize that
whatever occurred happened not only for your benefit, but for the growth
of the other people involved. We can gain control over the defense
mechanism when a trigger point is presented to us. By examining the
originating causes of our stressors, we gain control over them,
activating a change to the love response in every like situation that
occurs. Then we will stop calling these situations to us because we have
learned all that we needed to learn from them, and will no longer
resonate at the same frequency. Can anyone say Hallelujah?

To grow into this safe space, an understanding of grace must be
achieved. Grace to allow others their path, grace to understand that
this was an agreement made before either of you were born for the
benefit of you both, and the grace not only to forgive others, but
yourself as well.

Perception is reality. Know who you truly are. In love all defenses
dissolve.
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Reply #97 - 22.07.2003 at 12:15:52
 
Osho: Pot belih oblakov
http://novice.lunin.net/templates/zanimivosti.asp?articleid=540&zoneid=14


Ego je proces, ne realnost. Ego je lastnik želja in strahov. Oboje uporablja hkrati.

Ego poganjajo želje, to mu daje vitalnost, moč, energijo. Brez želj se ego ustavi.

Vsako pričakovanje je hrana za ego.

Vi imate mehanizem za ustvarjanje upanja, imenuje se ego.


Tu in zdaj ego ne more obstati.

Če obstaja jutri, obstaja tudi ego. Brez "jutri" ego ne more živeti.


Ne poizkušajte odvreči ego. Raje poglobite svoje razumevanje.

Ego mora priti do svojega vrhunca, da bi ga lahko odvrgel.

Ego lahko odvržeš, šele ko ti postane neznosno breme.

Ego odpade sam, kdo ga naj sicer odvrže?
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Reply #98 - 25.07.2003 at 10:11:57
 
Quado -The battle with yourself is the ultimate battle


Today’s message is in answer to a question from a reader.  The question is:

How is it that the inner child, or your subconscious, can have more power than your own conscious awareness, your free will?  I have made free will choices, and then had them negated by my own inner child.

Quado, do you have an answer to this question?


Ah, yes, of course, of course.

The battle with yourself is the ultimate battle and the one which must be won.  It is more important than any of the battles you may have with other people, and you are correct to wish to focus on it.

And you are also right.  You may choose wonderful things for yourself on one level, wishing for yourself all the best, and then undermine yourself at every turn, through bad habits, lack of discipline and control.  And so often it does seem that there is a wayward child inside, one who kicks up a fuss at every turn, wants her own way, and generally makes a mess of everything that you try to straighten out.

And what you must do with this wayward child is what you must do with any wayward child.  You must gently guide her, through love and caring, but with a firm hand.  You must show her the way and have the courage to take her there, even if she kicks and screams and has a tantrum.

Think of yourself as a person with layers, like an avocado.  On the outside is the skin, the person you show to the world.  In some people this skin is very thin, and the slightest thing will cause a tear.  In some people the skin is really quite thick, and no one can see what lies underneath.

But in both cases, what lies underneath is the emotional layer, and it is soft.  This is the part of you that cries out in pain.  The part of you that feels sorry for yourself.  The part of you that kicks up a fuss, that loves to do things that are bad for yourself.  This is the part of you focused on by psychologists, the part that was mistreated as child.  The part that drives your mind and much of your life.

And most people think that this is who they are, this child, this difficult, struggling, crying, whining and complaining emotional person.  But it is not so.

For underneath all of this is the core, and the core is strong and reliant.  The core contains within it all of the creativity, the ability to become an entire tree.  The core is your soul self, your glowing spiritual self, and it is the part of you which you must expand upon and develop.  Go deeply to the core and learn to let it drive your life


Get yourself out of the emotional self and down to the spiritual self through the daily and rigorous practice of meditation.  Establish disciplines which build up this inner core of love and caring.  Act in your own behalf by focusing here and not falling into the misguided belief that you are your emotional self or that you cannot control the emotional child within you.

You can.  But you do it not by focusing attention on her, but by focusing attention on your core, on the creative powerful self which is you.  Focus here, until your core begins to glow golden and shines out, until the emotional self falls away, until you are nothing but your glowing golden spiritual soul self.  This is the goal.

Will you achieve this?  No, you will not, not in this lifetime.  But it is still the goal, and moving as closely to it as you can in this lifetime is a life well spent.  This is your purpose, to glow with your soul self within this world.  To be so full of love for yourself that you are wiling to do what you need to do to discipline yourself and develop yourself spiritually.

Begin with meditation.  Begin with love for yourself.  Begin with giving yourself the gift of a quiet mind.  When you learn to quiet and control your mind, you will then be able to build upon that to do all else.  You will be able to build upon this core of youness, this central core of beingness, which is connected to the great stillness, the great all.

And in this great all, this get stillness, there are no inner children whining and complaining.  They are gone.  They are part of the illusion.  They are part of what falls away when this life is over.  But you, the soul, the central glowing soulness of you does not go away, does not end.  It is the part of you which is eternal and part of the great soul which is a part of the all.  This must be the focus.  This must be the parent who drives your life.

Begin there.  Build from there.  It is all that is real.  It is all that matters.  And it has all the power.

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Reply #99 - 22.08.2003 at 17:57:35
 
gape wrote on 21.08.2003 at 00:43:18:

pa dobr ...

kaj je zdej s tem hudičem, satanom ???

to gape ni nič drugega, kot tisto, kar ti imenuješ ego !!!





jest sm tisti, ki se odloča ali bom delal dobro ali slabo
in glede na to sem 'bog' ali 'hudič'



verjamem, da se lahko na mojo nepopolnost, v smislu učenca popolnosti, nalepijo tudi entitete vredne jezusovega metanja njih v svinje, al kako že.

ta nepopolnost, tisti trenutki, ki gredo mimo mene neozaveščeni, to ...


zdej ... kam boš uvrstil 'zle duhove', tiste ki jih je izganjal jezus ne vem. med moje vzorce? med astralne entitete, ki so se napopale na moje vzorce?
... ne vem ... lahko se še neki časa hecaš in skušaš dokazat da so ti 'zli duhovi' izven tebe (sej tud so ... v drugih) ... pa se boš zapletu ...

tisti zli duhovi, ki se tičejo tebe, so v tebi ... so tudi zunaj tebe in vplivajo nate, ker si ti tako izbral in ker smo na tistih nivojih vsi povezani ... je tko itak brez veze govort o men al pa teb al pa komerkoli (osebno) ... mi smo mi ... v bistvu nisi nič in hkrati si vse.

ampak ... tega se na da razumet ... mislm da se ... če se hoče, če se odpreš tem nivojem, se da ...

si osebnost ... postaneš nič ... dosežeš vse ... izničiš vse ... in si eno z vsem.



še za pregledat
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Reply #100 - 22.08.2003 at 18:55:41
 
Smiley
najbolj preprosto rečeno:

stanje ega je stanje slabega počutja,

stanje višjega jaza pa,

zavest zadovoljstva, miru in sreče.

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Reply #101 - 28.08.2003 at 00:43:29
 
a_hero wrote on 26.08.2003 at 21:35:24:
Jest bi na njenem mestu raje negativno energijo ozavestil do skrajnosti, jo pretvoril v pozitivno in nato podaril ljudem potrebnim kakrsnekoli pomoci

Govorim o mentalni tehniki, da ne bo kaksnega nerazumevanja.  

Ker je clovekov um predvsem stvar navade, se da tukaj resnicno delati cudeze.
Vsakic, ko bi iz podzavesti prisel v zavest na mentalni ekran spomin na tega cloveka, bi se v tem istem mentalnem ekranu, sprva namerno, kasneje pa avtomaticno, kreirala vedno ena in ista pozitivna slika, ki kot taka ne bi dovolila negativnih custev.

Trik je v tem, da tem slikam na mentalnem ekranu sledijo custva. Torej, ce preprecimo, da se negativne slike tvorijo, preprecimo negativna custva.

Te slike nam zacrtajo pot, custva, ki jim sledijo, pa nas zenejo po tej poti.

Tako bi se s casom ocistila tudi podzavest in ne samo zavest. Na koncu bi cel postopek potekal povsem avtomaticno, vendar bi bilo na zacetku potrebnega precej dela.


a_hero wrote on 27.08.2003 at 18:04:57:
Torej, da tak custveni problem resimo, oz. da izgine, ga naj nebi odrinili, potlacili itd., temvec pograbili in nato transformirali.
Tastari bi rekli, da bi ga zrtvovali.

Bistvo zrtvovanja po tastaro pa je v tem, da en in isti tip energije dobi drugacno kvaliteto.

Torej, intenzivnost custev ostane, samo da na koncu namesto, da so negativna, se transformirajo v pozitivna.






Jakob_Ostrjan wrote on 29.08.2003 at 10:51:19:
Ljubezen ni počutje, še manj čustvo ali psihično stanje do nekoga. Ljubezen je način življenja, način ravnanja, celosten odnos do nekoga. Ki se kaže ravno v tistih preprostih stvareh, ki sem jih naštel zgoraj.

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Reply #102 - 31.08.2003 at 13:27:47
 
reinkarnacija
http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=izventelesneizkusnje;action=displ...

Reinkarnacija, vzhodnjaske vere?!?
http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=svetovalnica;action=display;num=1...
--- ta je za premaknt ... religije ...

V regresijo - da ali ne?
http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=izventelesneizkusnje;action=displ...

regresija
http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=izventelesneizkusnje;action=displ...

različnost
gape wrote on 15.07.2002 at 23:53:18:
vsak se reinkarnira s svojo nalogo, ki jo mora opraviti v tej inkarnaciji.
Nalogo si duša zastavi tako, da se bo na prvem (od trenutno izbranih) nivoju naučila določenih lekcij (tudi za ostale nivoje, saj vsi višji vsebujejo vse nižje). Lekcije so take da v nas vzbudijo občutke - čustva - odziv skratka, seveda slabe, saj smo si zastavili za nalogo, da se bomo naučili ljubiti vse (nam osebno kot duši) največje nagravžnobe kar je bilo mogoče (smo si drzini zaupati svoji presoji) ... vse dogodke, ki bodo na nas vplivali poučno - bodo vzbudili v nas slabo misel, zmo si seveda morali zrežirati sami, zrežirali smo jih na osnovi podatkov ki so nam bili na razpolago na tstem nivoju, smo se jih že naučili ali pa so javno dobro, če jih rabiš jih vzameš.
kao podatki na tistem nivoju so:
lahko se z dušo iz skupine 'zmeniš' za skupno definicijo naloge, tukaj dobiš ogromno podatkov - državo, narodnost ... to je že del definicije 'živali' ki si jo sestavljaš
... pa ne zdej vn padt ... tko je ... imho
pol si definiraš datum rojstva ... to nadalje definira 'žival' saj planeti s povezavo svojih vplivov, vplivajo na lastnosti živali, tekom njenega celega življenja, tukaj tudi definiraš večje prelomnice v lajfu, saj poznaš bioritem, on niha in tko počutje živali niha.
to, pa zihr še kej, je do zdej že definirano, če se tvoje individualno nihanje začne na ta dan, bo od idealne linije odstopalo v točno določene smeri, za točno toliko kot na to vplivajo planeti ... vsa ta nihanja lahko zdej začneš počas seštevat in jih sestavljat v eno samo nit ... sestavljeno iz več niti ... svetlobnih niti.
nato si na osnovi vseh podatkov ki jih imaš, lahko izbereš starše - o starših lahko izveš vse - najbolj pa te zanimajo njihovi vzorci in za kdaj so si splanirali njih razrešitev (za zgled). če so njihovi vzrorci enaki tvojim vzorcem, potem si na pravi poti pri iskanju staršev ... zdej začneš recimo pripravljat starše na spočetje ... kolkr si dobr ... če ti rata zaplodita otroka ... off you go
še 9 mescov in gasa ... gremo spet dol ...
čas je za zadnje priprave: komuniciraš z že inkarniranimi v tisti okolici, tistimi ki se še bodo inkarnirali, se učiš skratka - nabiraš znanje, časa je malo, dolgo pričakovani trenutek je napočil ... še nekaj mesecev ...

(tuki se seveda lahko zgodi da ena blesava duša od ne vem kje, si je pa izbrala glih uno cesto in bodoča (zdej že bivša) mama je bla zlo nepazljiva (kar je bila njena težava od vedno) in ti nisi mogu glih čist useh podatkov čist povsod kjer bo mama gazla pregledat in nisi opazu da si je un tm k živi 100 km stran se spravu kle divjat (naloga kaj čš) ... no v tem primeru bi šlo veliko časa ali kot mi prvimo energije v nič ... datum je mim, mama je čao) ... jovo na novo vse splanirat ... si predstavljaš kolk dela?
faaaaaaak
zarad enga idijota ... mislm
(ups, moja težava)

skratka ... to vse je delu JAZ SEM - višji jaz.
jaz sploh še ni na sceni ... bog je ...
zdej samo še upaš, ne, veruješ da si vse izbral čim bolje kot se je dalo
... še par mescov
v tem procesu enkrat se zgodi tud delitev duše
tega ne štekam glih točno ... bom pa probu še razumet ... recimo
... duša se odloči da se bo inkarnirala z določenim procentom svoje energije ...
višji jaz ostane z enim delom 'gor', ostala energija pa se bo naselila v prej izbrano telo

odvisna od tega, kolk si vzel energije sabo in kolk težke preizkušnje si si sprogramiru, je stopnja zajebanosti tvojega lajfa ... že od prej ... to vse sam nardiš

zdej sm pri rojstvu, duša se je že naselila, privadila se je utesnjenosti ... (tuki vmes pride na sceno prva večja napaka, ki se ti lahko primeri, zaradi nečesa, kar nisi upoštevu pri pogramirnju, se porod mal zamakne ... par urc, ampak, telo nima idealne osnovne krivulje) ... glavni vzorci so zapisani ... lahko se začne življenje človeka ... lahko se začne pisanje vzorev ... s strani staršev (mi točno vemo kakšne vzorce imajo in te nam bodo predali, s svojim vzorom, če so jih že spucal ... je pa zadost drugih okrog nas s tem istim vzorcem (podobno privlači podobno)) in okolice ... s to svinjarijo (in dobroto, ne pozabt, tud taki zgledi so) nas okolica pita in vzorci se zapisujejo, vedno bolj natančno se zapisuje človekov individualni odziv na neko doživetje. mlajše ko je telo bolj dovzetno za vzorce je ... pri sedmih letih je dovzetnost za vzorec skoraj nična, lahko se pa še vedno navlečemo slabe navade ki, je sorodna vzorcu seveda ...

in različnost je rojena
zakaj
zaradi naloge
naloga je pa???
vsak ima svojo
kaj pa je skupna naloga???




Re: dr.Rugelj o reinkarnaciji
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gape wrote on 27.07.2002 at 09:52:56:
tuki bi ti dal kr prav

sej sm vedu da brez boga ne morte nč skupi naštrikat

BOG namreč SeK ni jezus, v jezusu je učlovečen Bog, po imenu kristus, rajt?
tko nekako
BOG je za orlom in je neopisljiv, absoluten, nepredstavljiv in neoseben ... lahko si ga naprimer prestavljaš edinole kot ljubezen ki ti dovaja življensko energijo, nepreknjeno, rečmo mu (sveti) duh.
do orla je mega težko pridet, mimo orla, k BOGu pa še tsočkrat težje.
in to je naloga.
nekateri smo je zavestni nekateri ne
orel je nekako razsodnik, on ima vgrajen mehanizem ki 'poje' nabrano zavest (za BOGa) in ti da možnost da se vrneš nazaj in nabereš moči (energije) da prideš mimo njega.
ti si Bog ki je učlovečen v človeku
v človeškem telesu se ta Bog uči, nabira izkušnje, znanje, zavest, in sploh vse energetske zgodbe, ki jih bo lahko uporabljal tam kjer je BOG
tam je naslednji nivo, nivo o katerem ne vemo nič, dokler smo tukaj, nam je popolnoma nepredstavljiv, nam jaz-om, jaz-sem je precej nivojev višje in on tega ne rabi razumet, on to ve, njegov zapis to vsebuje, če se jaz z njim poveže, lahko izve tudi on.
jeba je edino to da niti Bog ne pozna RESNICE.


duh=BOG=enost=dao/tao
na poti do njega je orel (temno morje zavesti)
duša
nanj smo vsi - jaz sem = višji jaz - pripeti s svetlobnimi nitmi
(njemu nekateri rečejo tudi bog (v človeku))
8 - pred-enost (de/te)
med višjim jazom in jazom je še ena svetlobna nit
7 - Bog
na koncu te niti (pri zemlji), je svetlobna krogla
nebeško telo
6 - jasno vidim
duhovno telo
5 - učitelj
kavzalno telo
4 - ljubezen
intuitivno telo
3 - ego - strah - skorja skozi katero ne vidiš
mentalno telo
2 - sex
čustveno telo
1 - zemlja
eterično telo
(človek v materiji)


BOG ni oseba (oseben), osebnost se izgubi po 6 nivoju nekje

odnos - izmenjava - tantra
karma - reinkarnacija - orel
za prehod mimo orla rabiš določeno količino energije
na zemlji je treba kot prvo razrešiti vso svojo karmo pozitivno in negativno
potem pa še nabrati energijo za polet mimo orla
in mimo orla je lažje pridet če nas je več ... in to je ključna ugotovitev, ki razlaga zakaj delam(o) kar delam(o).
in skor 100% bo avtobus odpelju tm do 2012 enkrat in kdor ne bo pripravljen, ne bo pripravljen, in predpogoj za pripravljenost je razrešena karma, naslednji pogoj pa je energija zbrana in obvladljiva, skupaj s telesom (jaz-om), ki se temu upira - kar je logično, saj se njegovo potovanje tam konča, matrica se prenese na Boga - Bog se zlije z jazom in gremo tja kamor fizično telo ne more, lahko gre samo Bog, tam seveda ne vemo kaj je - pri BOGu namreč - in zato se ego upira kakršnikoli ideji o tem da bi tja sploh šel. zato ga je treba kultivirat do te mere da imaš kot Bog popolno oblast nad njim, da se ne upira, da ne izgubljaš dodatne energije.

Q
koncepti ala ego, superego in id zlo lepo prilepit na drevo življenja na sfere 9, 6 in 1
Hočm pa seveda povedat, da se dajo koncepti iz duhovnosti zlo lepo prenest v normaln jeziku

vsakim človeku razumljiv, brez potrebe da bi poznal folkloro določene kulture al pa naroda.
http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=102750...
Q

zdej ... ne me napadat če je vaša resnica drugačna, povejte jo ...

karel mislim da bo skrajni čas za sistematizacijo izrazov, jezika, enciklopedija skratka




... Temno morje zavesti
http://www.gape.org/gapes/prispevki/aktivna_stran_neskoncnosti2.htm#temno
Kristali#cakre
http://www.gape.org/gapes/prispevki/mockristalov/index.htm#cakre
resnica
http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=102577...





gape wrote on 16.06.2002 at 23:49:45:
to je pa res en boljših textov k sm jih bral u lajfu ...
VELIKA UČENJA VZHODA IN ZAHODA
http://ai.fri.uni-lj.si/xaigor/slo/modrosti/ucenja.htm

sm čist poln idej ratu med branjem tega ... dons k je bil smak svijeta ...

lahko bi npr enciklopedijo začel gradit iz tega texta ... itd ... ostalo je samo v moji glavi ... še


malo txta za pokušino:

Človek je sestavljen iz osebnosti (ega, nižje narave) , individualne duše in enotnega duha (višje narave). Osebnost je sestavljena iz fizičnega telesa, življenjske energije (energijskega telesa), čustev (čustvenega telesa) in razuma (mentalnega telesa). Duh je sestavljen iz (višje, čiste) inteligence (modrosti), (brezpogojne) ljubezni (dobrote) in (svobodne) volje (moči). Duša je vmesni člen, ki povezuje osebnost z duhom (nekatera učenja se izogibajo besedi duša in večina učenj se izogiba besedi Bog, ker ju razum ne more spoznati).

Namen življenja je učenje modrosti in gojenje duhovnih vrednot: preprostosti, skromnosti in prave mere ponižnosti, sprejemljivosti, strpnosti in potrpežljivosti, vztrajnosti, iskrenosti in poguma, vere in zaupanja ter ljubezni in sočutja. Končni cilj je spoznati samega sebe in preko razsvetljenja (blaženosti, nirvane) združiti materialno z duhovnim, tako da učenec postane mojster modrosti, ki preseže svoj ego, vzpostavi nadzor nad svojo osebnostjo, živi duhovne vrednote in postane učitelj. Modrecu se razširi metafizično srce preko vseh ljudi in ne dela več razlik med ljudmi. Njegova zavest se razširi, da dojame, da smo vsi z vsemi povezani.

Temeljni princip, ki omogoča učenje in napredovanje na duhovni poti, je reinkarnacija: duša se spušča v (fizično) telo znova in znova, se uči in nabira izkušnje, dokler ne obvlada svoje osebnosti in ne doseže razsvetljenja.

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          on: 05/27/03 at 16:48:22  /  stojchi:
kot je rekel in zapel  
moj priljubljen pesnik in mojster Nanak (........)

Srce in ego,  
sta na nasprotnih straneh.  

Onadva ne moreta obstajati,  
na istem mestu hkrati.  
Ego ne more služiti Bogu  
in to življenje ostane brez smisla (.......)  


            on: 06/19/03  /  gape:
* mi trpimo sam zarad napacnega delovanja, ne zarad delovanja samega. pravilno delovanje je tisto ki nas izpolne. *

   
Kdaj ljudje hoče z svojo držo vplivat na druge, kaj to pomeni, vedno delovanje ega .... ?

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