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Reply #75 - 20.01.2005 at 09:03:08
 
razloži se, vida Grin
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Reply #76 - 20.01.2005 at 09:09:46
 
iz gledisca, da smo vsi sinovi enega in istega Oceta/Boga in Matere/Narave mormo met vse nase brate in sestre radi.

ampak po drugi strani je pa ocitno, da nas nekatere aktivnosti nekaterih nasih bratov/sester motijo in vznemirjajo. tuki pa pol nastane problem. a je res narobe to kar pocne on al narobe pocnem jaz?

zato je treba iz gledisca najbolj pridnih (tj. zadovoljnih/pomirjenih) otrok prevert in tud izvedet kako nej se sami najprej spremenimo za nase vecno dobro in s tem lahko posledicno pomagamo tud vsem drugim s svojim zgledom in prijaznim/socutnim nasvetom.

naj bosta sodnik Bog in Narava in tisti, ki so z Njima tesno povezani. za te pa vemo kaksne pomirjujoce vibre naravno sevajo iz sebe.
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Reply #77 - 20.01.2005 at 10:08:26
 
Devi wrote on 20.01.2005 at 09:03:08:
razloži se, vida Grin
ne razumem te


oboji podpiramo isti družbeni red - demokracijo, saj hodimo na volitve ne. Pa tud če ne gremo je učinek isti, saj le odstopimo svoj glas drugim ... Več :
http://users.volja.net/tpetauer/robot_povzetek.htm
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Reply #78 - 20.01.2005 at 10:34:10
 
Mene je že tole prepričalo, da tip ne ve, kaj govori:

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1.  DOKAZI ZA NJEGOV OBSTOJ

1.1.  Viri:

1.1.1.  religije;

1.1.2.  miti;

1.1.3. pričevanja očividcev  paranormalnih  pojavov,  izganjalcev hudiča ali zlih duhov, t. i. duševnih bolnikov in drugih  oseb  z nenormalno/nadnormalno zaznavo;

1.1.4.  ezoterične teorije

1.1.5.  napovedi znanstvene fantastike, od katerih so se  nekatere že uresničile;

1.1.6.  osebne izkušnje.


Vsekakor so takšni viri zadnje, kar bi lahko resen človek vzel za dokaze ali za vire dokazov: religije, so bile in bodo vedno največji vir zablod, miti takisto - miti ali pravlice, in vsekakor so duševni bolniki in vsi z nenormalno ali nadnormalno zaznavo tisti, ki mi bodo podajali dokaze, ako kot bom slepe vzel za resne likovne kritike in gluhe za glasbenike. Precej podobno je tudi z ezoteričnimi teorijami in znanstveno fantastiko, ki jih lahko primerjam z dokazno močjo religij in pravljic. In seveda spet osebne izkušnje, ki vedno ostanejo na nivoju osebnega - brez kančka objektivnosti.

Takšni viri so lahko predvsem dokaz zblojenosti tistega, ki jim pripisuje resno dokazno moč česarkoli razen brezmejne neumnosti.


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Reply #79 - 20.01.2005 at 11:12:46
 
vida wrote on 20.01.2005 at 10:08:26:
oboji podpiramo isti družbeni red - demokracijo, saj hodimo na volitve ne.

mah kaj vem, jest ga zdej ze parkrat nisem podprla, k se mi zdi da se je čist izrodil
podpiram pa, da se bojkotira vse tiste, ki ga izrabljajo
in podpiram use, ki se trudijo kej boljšega nardit, sam na žalost takih ni v vladi
zaenkrat nimam nobene boljše ideje kaj nardit
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Reply #80 - 20.01.2005 at 11:14:10
 
objektivnost je samo mit Wink Grin
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Reply #81 - 20.01.2005 at 11:26:19
 
Petra. wrote on 20.01.2005 at 11:14:10:
objektivnost je samo mit Wink Grin

ja, ce govoris o popolni objektivnosti. prav tako je popolna subjektivnost mit.

in ce je neki po logiki zazeljeno/potrebno ampak hkrati po logiki neresljivo/neizvedljivo, pol ti ostane edin meditejsn... in "tam" lohk vids/cutis harmonijo med objektivnostjo in subjektivnostjo. sam kaj k spet pades ven/dol Wink. kaj ali kdo je tist zarad cesar/kogar pades dol je pametno odkrit.
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Reply #82 - 20.01.2005 at 13:26:48
 
Madan Gopal Das wrote on 20.01.2005 at 11:26:19:
ja, ce govoris o popolni objektivnosti. prav tako je popolna subjektivnost mit.

in ce je neki po logiki zazeljeno/potrebno ampak hkrati po logiki neresljivo/neizvedljivo, pol ti ostane edin meditejsn... in "tam" lohk vids/cutis harmonijo med objektivnostjo in subjektivnostjo. sam kaj k spet pades ven/dol Wink. kaj ali kdo je tist zarad cesar/kogar pades dol je pametno odkrit.



se pravi VSE KAR JE, samo JE!?! Wink Smiley
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Reply #83 - 20.01.2005 at 13:34:21
 
Petra. wrote on 20.01.2005 at 13:26:48:
se pravi VSE KAR JE, samo JE!?! Wink Smiley

to je zame suho, mrtvo in staticno/mirno in tud ne zdrzi dolg casa pr tem.

pejt se naprej.
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Reply #84 - 21.01.2005 at 12:21:08
 
t wrote on 20.01.2005 at 10:34:10:
Mene je že tole prepričalo, da tip ne ve, kaj govori:


ti vse veš  ??? ... blagor teb  8)

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Reply #85 - 21.01.2005 at 12:24:01
 
vida wrote on 21.01.2005 at 12:21:08:
ti vse veš  ??? ... blagor teb  8)





če bi le res,

vsekakor pa znam ločiti zrnje od plev



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Reply #86 - 21.01.2005 at 12:29:40
 
t wrote on 21.01.2005 at 12:24:01:
če bi le res,

vsekakor pa znam ločiti zrnje od plev

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A to še ni vse  ???
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Evo Islandske "mafije"...
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Andres, si mel ti tud klele prste vmes?

jap, čudeži dogajajo....


Icelanders Apologise for Iraq War
By Vidir Sigurdsson, Reuters
Jan 21, 2005, 20:27

     
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REYKJAVIK - A group of nationals from tiny Iceland have slammed their government's support of the U.S.-led war in Iraq, apologising to Iraqis in a full-page advertisement in The New York Times.

The advertisement, paid for with donations from more than 4,000 citizens which constitutes about 1.4 percent of the population, demanded "that Iceland be immediately removed from the list of invaders in the 'coalition of the willing'.




"We apologise to the Iraqi people for the Icelandic ministers' support for the invasion of Iraq," said the ad, published on Friday.

Four out of five Icelanders want their country off the list, according to a Gallup opinion poll published earlier this month.

But a foreign ministry official ruled out any policy change.

"No, Saddam Hussein has been overthrown and we are steadfast in our support for stability and democracy in Iraq," Foreign Minister David Oddsson's political adviser Illugi Gunnarsson told Reuters.

Iceland's backing has had little impact on the coalition's fortunes since the war began in March 2003. The North Atlantic archipelago of 295,000 people and no military has contributed nothing but its government's verbal support.

Prime Minister Halldor Asgrimsson and Oddsson, both seen by analysts as staunch allies of President George W.Bush, have come under fire for signing up Iceland as a coalition partner without consulting parliament.

"The decision to land us on this list of the coalition of the willing should have been discussed by parliament's foreign affairs committee," said Olafur Hannibalsson, spokesman for the National Movement for Active Democracy, which placed the ad.

He characterised the government's unilateral action as a "deviation from our foreign policy".

NO VETO

Gunnarsson said critics skated "on very thin ice".

Although major foreign affairs decisions should be brought to the attention of the committee in order to ensure members are informed, the body makes no decisions and has no veto over foreign policy, he said.

The government's position -- that the use of force in Iraq was not excluded -- was known to all committee members long before the decision to join the coalition, he said.

And the policy was known weeks before Iceland's May 2003 general election and voters could have opted for change, he noted, adding: "But the government firmly held office."

University of Iceland associate professor of political science Baldur Thorhallsson said the administration was "in trouble, but not in serious trouble" over the affair, which lately has dominated the news and public debate.

"The government is not going to back off and will not leave the coalition ... in no way is this ad going to affect the policy of the government," he said.

Some critics say the government sided with Washington in an effort to keep U.S. air force fighter jets at Keflavik air base. Reykjavik sees the base as vital for security and is worried by U.S. plans to close it due to the end of Cold War tensions.

"Several hundreds of jobs are at stake," said Hannibalsson, arguing that the base was probably "the real reason" for the cabinet's eagerness to please Washington.

Gunnarsson denied any such connection.
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