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Message started by Kali on 05.07.2004 at 02:27:13

Title: Ecstasy
Post by Kali on 05.07.2004 at 02:27:13

http://www.ecstasy.org/books/e4x/index.html


Title: Re: Ecstasy
Post by miha-- on 05.07.2004 at 17:36:20

ja izobrazujte se!! izobrazujte ;D

Title: Re: Ecstasy
Post by Sn0wBall on 05.07.2004 at 23:30:55

tabletkarji ;D

Title: Re: Ecstasy
Post by Cipralex on 30.10.2004 at 16:58:44


wrote on 05.07.2004 at 23:30:55:
tabletkarji ;D


najprej probi,  da boš sploh vedu, kwa to je...pol boš lohk kakšne komentarje dajau...


;D  ;D

Title: Re: Ecstasy v boju proti raku
Post by Kali on 18.01.2005 at 01:58:50

http://www.siol.net/novice/default.asp?site_id=1&page_id=51&article_id=15105010610235462

6.1.2005, 09:20
Ekstazi v boju proti raku

Ameriška agencija za hrano in zdravila (FDA) je odobrila novo raziskavo, s katero bodo skušali potrditi uporabo ekstazija v boju proti raku.

Z nadzorovanimi odmerki te halucinogene droge naj bi bolnikom pomagali premagati strah in olajšati odnose z najbližjimi.

Raziskava naj bi trajala štiri mesece, izvajali pa jo bodo znanstveniki s Harvarda ob pomoči 12 rakavih bolnikov. (SiOL) ;) ;D

Title: Re: Ecstasy
Post by nec on 09.11.2005 at 00:19:49

Živijo! Zanima me, če je kdorkoli imel kakšne probleme z xtc-jem ali posledice? Sam sem doživel namreč vrhunec ugodnega počutja in žal tudi obratno, skušam najti pomoč, nasvete...thanx !

Title: Re: Ecstasy
Post by t on 09.11.2005 at 12:22:37


nec wrote on 09.11.2005 at 00:19:49:
Živijo! Zanima me, če je kdorkoli imel kakšne probleme z xtc-jem ali posledice? Sam sem doživel namreč vrhunec ugodnega počutja in žal tudi obratno, skušam najti pomoč, nasvete...thanx !



U bistvu je s tem tako kot z vsem, zato pač vrhunec evforije plačaš z njenim nasprotjem - zato pač vsi stoiki prisegajo na zlato sredino.

Važno, da se ne sekiraš preveč in da preračunaš, če se ti račun izide v pozitivno stran, če ne boljše, da nehaš.

Če se ti sploh ne izide pa je najbolje, da stopiš do kakšnega profesionalca (takega, ki ti lahko da zadeve na recept) - baje, da imajo res dobro robo.



uživaj!

Title: Re: Ecstasy
Post by David on 09.11.2005 at 15:15:16

Nec kaj pa ti dogaja če ni too much?

Title: Re: Ecstasy
Post by nec on 09.11.2005 at 22:31:25

Panic disorder causes repeated attacks of intense fear in response to ordinary situations. This anxiety disorder can cause physical symptoms like shortness of breath, a racing heart, trembling, dizziness, chest pain, and stomach upset. A person having a panic attack may fear they are dying or "going crazy."

The depression, shame, and agonizing sense of isolation caused by eating disorders can disrupt families, interrupt schooling, damage careers, and destroy relationships. Without treatment, the future is bleak; however, with psychological counseling, often in conjunction with medications such as PROZAC, people can recover and live normal, productive lives. Group therapy, in which people share their experiences with others who have similar problems, has been especially effective for resolving underlying emotional issues.

Bulimia typically begins during early adulthood; however, many people do not seek help until they reach their 30s or 40s. By this time, their eating behavior may be deeply ingrained and more difficult to change. For that reason, people with bulimia who get early treatment have a better chance of full recovery than those who wait years before getting help. A combination of psychotherapy and medication may be the best form of therapy for bulimic patients.

Panic disorder causes severe, uncontrollable anxiety (fear and nervousness) in response to ordinary situations. These repeated episodes of intense fear—called panic attacks—are usually accompanied by a variety of physical symptoms. Such symptoms can include shortness of breath, dizziness, sweating, chest pain, heart palpitations, racing heart, stomach upset, and others.

The symptoms of panic disorder can be very frightening. At first, many people think they may be having a heart attack or dying. Some visit the emergency room again and again before finally being diagnosed with panic disorder.

to sem našel v angleščini, je dobro opisano in se tudi ujema z mojim stanjem. Me zanima , je že kdo prišel iz takšne situacije ?



Title: Re: Ecstasy
Post by ixtlan on 10.11.2005 at 01:48:10


nec wrote on 09.11.2005 at 22:31:25:
to sem našel v angleščini, je dobro opisano in se tudi ujema z mojim stanjem. Me zanima, je že kdo prišel iz takšne situacije ?


v vsakem primeru pogosto uživanje MDMAja, kakor tudi amfetaminov (ki so večinoma poleg ostale še bistveno bolj nezaželene kemije v slovenskih tabletkah), privede do porabe serotinina (nevrotransmiter), ki se po zaužitju teh substanc prekomerno izloča; pomanjkanje serotinina vedno vodi v depresijo. kako priti iz situacije? ena daljša pavza, da se zaloge serotinina obnovijo in s tem vzpostavi tudi normalno počutje. boh ne dej poskušat olajšat situacijo z drugimi drogami (!) predlog: a) posvetuj se z zdravnikom - kot vedno je to dobr pripomnt b) take a break, pa če do novega leta ne bo dobr, počak še kakšen mesec, da si sistem čist opomore. pa še pol bi se jst glede na trenutno stanje v Sloveniji rajš izogibal tabletk ker so itak daleč od MDMA in se jih preprost ne splača niti občasno pokonzumirat

Title: Re: Ecstasy
Post by t on 10.11.2005 at 02:52:17


nec wrote on 09.11.2005 at 22:31:25:
Panic disorder causes repeated attacks of intense fear in response to ordinary situations. This anxiety disorder can cause physical symptoms like shortness of breath, a racing heart, trembling, dizziness, chest pain, and stomach upset. A person having a panic attack may fear they are dying or "going crazy."

The depression, shame, and agonizing sense of isolation caused by eating disorders can disrupt families, interrupt schooling, damage careers, and destroy relationships. Without treatment, the future is bleak; however, with psychological counseling, often in conjunction with medications such as PROZAC, people can recover and live normal, productive lives. Group therapy, in which people share their experiences with others who have similar problems, has been especially effective for resolving underlying emotional issues.

Bulimia typically begins during early adulthood; however, many people do not seek help until they reach their 30s or 40s. By this time, their eating behavior may be deeply ingrained and more difficult to change. For that reason, people with bulimia who get early treatment have a better chance of full recovery than those who wait years before getting help. A combination of psychotherapy and medication may be the best form of therapy for bulimic patients.

Panic disorder causes severe, uncontrollable anxiety (fear and nervousness) in response to ordinary situations. These repeated episodes of intense fear—called panic attacks—are usually accompanied by a variety of physical symptoms. Such symptoms can include shortness of breath, dizziness, sweating, chest pain, heart palpitations, racing heart, stomach upset, and others.

The symptoms of panic disorder can be very frightening. At first, many people think they may be having a heart attack or dying. Some visit the emergency room again and again before finally being diagnosed with panic disorder.

to sem našel v angleščini, je dobro opisano in se tudi ujema z mojim stanjem. Me zanima , je že kdo prišel iz takšne situacije ?



Poznam take situacije, ne vem, če bi jih ravno nalepil na zgoraj opisano ampak doživljal sem tudi hujše stvari (parkrat pa sem bil tudi prisoten, ko se je to ljudem dogajalo) - načelo je jasno: samo brez panike.

Sicer pa je zdaj na terenu baje ogromno te robe, ki naj bi povzročala točno te simptome (pa tudi, če spiješ pol litra močne kave).

V takih primerih (če se že lotiš akcije pa te je še strah, potem si z eno nogo že v peklu) je priporočljivo, da si z nekom, ki mu lahko zaupaš.

Meni pomaga sproščanje in kakšne fine dihalne vaje - pa brez panike (znanje je najboljše, tako zmagaš, če se vnaprej pozanimaš, kaj se dogaja v telesu in drugod - znanje je še vedno najboljša obramba pred paniko). Seveda pa tudi alkohol pa kakšn špinel.

Če pa se ti to dogaja na redni bazi pa ni druge, kot zamenjati mamila, pustiti mamila, in sprehod do špecialista, ki daje mamile na recept.



uživaj!

Title: Re: Ecstasy
Post by nec on 10.11.2005 at 12:28:16

Če še malo opredelim stvar, vse to je bilo vzrok ..... NE ! dolgotrajno jemanje, ampak ......... ena usodna noč, v kateri sem doživel vročinski udar; prevelko doziranje vsega. In to je res, celo na internetu sem bral, da je zadosten en prevelik odmerek doziranja za poškodbe možganskih celic, živčnih itd... Če bi se jst dorgiral redno in recimo par let, se sploh ne bi čudil mojemu stanju. Jebga, eni nastradamo takoj, gledam pa ene, ko so vsak vikend na takih dozah, ob katerih bi jst ne več živel. Tisto najhuje je mimo, saj je od tega že 2 leti, vendar posledice so ostale in te so nenehno drhtenje čeljusti, strah pred ... depresija pa nastane samo zaradi vsega tega Zdravniki me pošiljajo psihiatrom, vendar ko pridem do psihiatra, ki nima pojma o tem, se lahk sam obrnem, ker pa tud vem, da se da določene stvari ozdravit brez tablet-drog, kot si rekel, kakšne meditacije itd.
Naj rečem, its a hard way of life with that...

Title: Re: Ecstasy
Post by David on 10.11.2005 at 20:37:31

..jaz ti tudi priporočam da pavziraš, da pavziraš tud z drugimi stvarmi če so v igri, pa daš času čas
če pa je TooMuch pa kakšno bolj konkretno pomoč poiskat
fajn bodi

Title: Re: Ecstasy
Post by Petra G. on 07.02.2012 at 19:10:33

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLNT2bf9Hy8&feature=related

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