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Message started by Harry on 23.09.2003 at 02:02:20

Title: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Harry on 23.09.2003 at 02:02:20

Kam drvimo?


Quote:
Ob koncu maja je vladna koalicija zabeležila "nov uspeh", saj je zunanji dolg Slovenije presegel 10 milijard ameriških dolarjev. Po biltenu Banke Slovenije se je namreč do 31. maja 2003 celotni zunanji dolg Slovenije povzpel že na 10,2 milijarde ameriških dolarjev.
Pri zunanjem zadolževanju je najbolj nevarno hitro naraščanje. Medtem ko je znašal celotni zunanji dolg Slovenije v letu 1997 še znosnih 4,1 milijarde dolarjev, se je do konca letošnjega leta povečal dvainpolkrat. Na vsakega Slovenca (od zibelke do groba) 5116 ameriških dolarjev oziroma 1,064.895 tolarjev. Povprečna slovenska družina (ona, on in otrok) je torej v tujini zadolžena za avto srednjega razreda, recimo za Golfa.

To so skrb vzbujajoči podatki o katerih se v javnosti ne govori veliko, vladna koalicija pod vodstvom LDS vseskozi uspešno preusmerja pozornost stran od gospodarskih indikatorjev, vendar se bo potrebno slej ko prej soočiti z visokim zunanjim dolgom, za katerega so dogovorni prav tisti, ki so že desetletje na oblasti.

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Joc on 23.09.2003 at 08:28:23

Ko ne bodo imeli več volilnega zaledja, ko bodo izgubili na volitvah, bo seveda na novi vladni koaliciji (ki bo pretežno seveda iz dandanašnje opozicije) vrnitev dolga...
Seveda v končni fazi ni nikoli vrnitev dolga na vladi ampak na ubogih nas davkoplačevalcih, ki nam bodo napisali še vrsto davkov.
Iztoka Mlakarja poslušat pa vsi v upor za staro pravdo, ko so naši nonoti hotli nazaj na desetino... >:(

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Kali on 23.09.2003 at 11:05:42

Kar so ljudje izvolili, zdaj to imajo.  ::)

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by gape on 23.09.2003 at 12:26:34


wrote on 23.09.2003 at 02:02:20:
Kam drvimo?

cu grunt ... očitno
sej veš ... kar ne gre skoz enost, gre pač skozi dvojnost ... sam ... blj boli ...

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by ten-nej on 23.09.2003 at 13:41:51



Samo, da nismo slabši od povprečja  ;D


(pa itaq gre povsod bolj ali manj na dol)



razen za optimiste


čeprav ni najboljši občutek, če veš, da te zmeraj eni in isti nategujejo


bo že  8)

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by soncnica on 23.09.2003 at 16:15:33

Saj veš kako američani "pametni" pravijo:" Več kot si zadolžen več si vreden."  ;D


Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by ten-nej on 23.09.2003 at 16:21:10


soncnica wrote on 23.09.2003 at 16:15:33:
Saj veš kako američani "pametni" pravijo:" Več kot si zadolžen več si vreden."  ;D



pravjo samo: bolj, ko si dolžan, več si vreden živ  ;)

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Harry on 23.09.2003 at 20:37:36

A ni to zanimivo, recimo vzemimo Evino Gajo, ki je komaj začela živet in se še ne zaveda, da je dolžna 5116 ameriških dolarjev.  :-/ ;D

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by bogglefreak20 on 24.09.2003 at 11:44:53


wrote on 23.09.2003 at 20:37:36:
A ni to zanimivo, recimo vzemimo Evino Gajo, ki je komaj začela živet in se še ne zaveda, da je dolžna 5116 ameriških dolarjev.  :-/ ;D



Ignorance is blissful!

Ne sprašujte se koliko ste vi dolžni državi, vprašajte se koliko je država dolžna vam!
(ker morate vsakodnevno poslušati kozlarije naših izvoljenih poslancev, proti katerim praktično nimate kaj narediti - razen razpisati referendum in vreči stran naslednjih 600 miljonov)  ;D

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by veronika on 24.09.2003 at 18:40:01


wrote on 23.09.2003 at 20:37:36:
A ni to zanimivo, recimo vzemimo Evino Gajo, ki je komaj začela živet in se še ne zaveda, da je dolžna 5116 ameriških dolarjev.  :-/ ;D


žalostno a resnično.

se nam sploh še splača delat otroke  ;)

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Harry on 24.09.2003 at 19:54:32


veronika wrote on 24.09.2003 at 18:40:01:
žalostno a resnično.

se nam sploh še splača delat otroke  ;)


Veš da se splača. Vsak novi otrok prevzame nase nekaj promilov dolga, ki se ostalim zmanjša. ;D

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by vida on 25.09.2003 at 08:32:39


veronika wrote on 24.09.2003 at 18:40:01:
žalostno a resnično.

se nam sploh še splača delat otroke  ;)



Vse Je Eno  VseEnoJe  Vse Eno Je

res ... hvala bogu valentina

hvala vsem
 
mi se mamo radi, radi, radi, radi

&&&&

the party is going on

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by veronika on 25.09.2003 at 16:15:59

ok splača se delat, vpr.  se ge splača naredit  ;)

drugač pa harry, če si za, pol pa kar nared kakega  ;D

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Harry on 26.09.2003 at 09:43:42


veronika wrote on 25.09.2003 at 16:15:59:
ok splača se delat, vpr.  se ge splača naredit  ;)

drugač pa harry, če si za, pol pa kar nared kakega  ;D


Komu? A to misliš tebi? 8) :P ;D

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by veronika on 26.09.2003 at 16:38:42

sam če bo imel tvojo lepoto in mojo inteligenco

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Harry on 26.09.2003 at 20:53:27


veronika wrote on 26.09.2003 at 16:38:42:
sam če bo imel tvojo lepoto in mojo inteligenco


A ni boljš, da ima tvojo lepoto in mojo inteligenco. ;)

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by veronika on 27.09.2003 at 09:52:23


wrote on 26.09.2003 at 20:53:27:
A ni boljš, da ima tvojo lepoto in mojo inteligenco. ;)


se še nisva videla v živo, zato bova kar žrebala

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Harry on 27.09.2003 at 11:29:48


veronika wrote on 27.09.2003 at 09:52:23:
se še nisva videla v živo, zato bova kar žrebala


Kaj imaš pismo al grb? Mečem kovanec. ;D

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by veronika on 29.09.2003 at 10:23:58

pismo

da bom pol rekal, o ti pismo  ;)

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Devi on 07.12.2003 at 10:21:10

RESUME
George W. Bush
The White House, USA

EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:

LAW ENFORCEMENT:

I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available.

MILITARY:
I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL.
I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use.  By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.

COLLEGE:
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average.
I was a cheerleader.

PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.


I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas, in
1975.  I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas.
The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money.

With the help of my father and our right-wing friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was
elected governor of Texas.


ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS:

I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union.

During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.

I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money.

I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history.


With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida, and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became
President after losing by over 500,000 votes.


ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:

I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.

I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.

I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S.
history. I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market.

In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their  jobs and that trend continues every month.

I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. President.

I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.

My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. History, Enron.

My political party used Enron private jets and corporate  attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.

I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest > corporate rip-offs in history.

I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the
oil industry was revealed.

I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.

I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be
awarded government contracts.

I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any President in U.S. history.


I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest  bureaucracy in the history of the United States government.

I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history.

I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.

I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.

I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. "prisoners of war" detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the
Geneva Convention.

I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations
election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).

I set the record for fewest number of press conferences of any President since the advent of television.

I set the the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period.

After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.

I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the
U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.

I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.

I am t he first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community.

I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and
their families -- in war time.

In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq, then blamed the lies on our British friends.

I am the first President in history to have a majority of  Europeans 71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.

I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD.

I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin
Laden and Saddam Hussein to justice.


RECORDS AND REFERENCES:

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father's library, sealed and unavailable for public view.


All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and
unavailable for public view.


All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.


PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004.
(PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERY VOTER YOU KNOW!!!)

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Kali on 15.12.2003 at 08:26:46

.........USA so dobili Sadama...

What is next? ;D

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by e on 15.12.2003 at 11:07:42


Petra. wrote on 15.12.2003 at 08:26:46:
.........USA so dobili Sadama...

What is next? ;D


Ja sej še niso celotnega seta kart zbrali skupaj.


Pa še novo leto, bo Sadam lepo na toplem preživel.

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by sinjeoka on 16.12.2003 at 10:34:09

Velike ribe žrejo male, zmagovalci pišejo zgodovino...

Mene zanima samo nekaj, zakaj se Bušiju tako mudi podpisat pogodbe za obnovo Iraka. A ne bi raje predal oblasti legitimno izvojljeni Iraški vladi in naj oni odločajo kdo bo pomagal pri obnovi in naj oni podpisujejo pogodbe.

Mene bolj zanima, zakaj kak velecenjeni novinar ne vpraša tega Johnnya Yunga, ali pa koga drugega.

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by titud on 16.12.2003 at 11:00:44


t wrote on 23.09.2003 at 16:21:10:
pravjo samo: bolj, ko si dolžan, več si vreden živ  ;)



To je  to, ja. Razpad bivše juge je svet najbolj skrbel zato, ker ni blo jasno, kdo bo odplačal njene pufe. Slovenija se je vključla v svetovno poltiko pa gopodarstvo koj, ko je začela odčevat svoj delež pufa. Skor za nobeno stvar nismo uspel tko hitr najt konsensenza kot za to, kako 'sanirat' banke in na državo (beri državljene  in njihove potomce) prevalit 'javni dolg'.

Pozabljamo tud, da je skor vsak državlajn zapufan induividualno, tko  na bankah kot z raznimi kreditnimi  karticami, lizingi in na črno. Seveda si v tem smislu zanje tokl več vreden, kolkr si jim dolžan, zato so tud zavarovalnice tolk agresivne s svojo ponudbo  nezgodnih  zavarovanj, saj ti banka sploh ne da več pufa, če ga v primeru tvojga konca ne bo od zavarovlnice izterjat. Tko da ma vsaka banka že kar svojo zavarovalnico, saj zakaj bi  pa dajale drugim služit, kar od folka lahko dvakrat kar same poberejo.        

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Bardo_Thodol on 16.12.2003 at 11:12:45


titud wrote on 16.12.2003 at 11:00:44:
To je  to, ja. Razpad bivše juge je svet najbolj skrbel zato, ker ni blo jasno, kdo bo odplačal njene pufe.  

To jih niti ni tako zelo skrbelo, saj se pufi razdelijo na naslednice.

Veliko bolj jih je skrbelo, da se ne bi začeli razpadi po domino efektu širiti tudi v drugih državah, predvsem v Sovjetski zvezi. Možen razpad Sovjetske zveze je bil takrat tista najbolj strašljiva možnost z najbolj nepredvidljivimi možnostmi.



Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by titud on 16.12.2003 at 11:50:44


Bardo_Thodol wrote on 16.12.2003 at 11:12:45:
To jih niti ni tako zelo skrbelo, saj se pufi razdelijo na naslednice.


Možno, ampak vsaj sami pred sabo smo  za našo glavno vrlino razglašal dejstvo, da smo v nasprotju z drugimi odplačilno sposobni in zato vredni zaupanja svetovne banke, WTO-ja pa kar je še tega. Države naslednice so se  med sabo tko razjebale, da so upnike pripeljal do tega, da so vsi srečni, da bodo lahko  v razrušno infrastruktoro na na novo vlagal in si tako zagotovil boljšo osnovo za vračanje novih pufov kot je bla tista iz titovih časov, so bli pufi  cena za tedanjo politično blokovsko  stabilnost in katera  je z razpadom blokovov postala brez vrednosti. To,  da smo titove pufe edino slovenci vzeli resno in smo pri njihovem vračanju bolj papeški od papeža je samo odraz naše iracionalne  hvaležnosti do svojih novih gopodarjev, ki so nam kao omogočl, da nam ni blo treba it skoz isti pekel kot drugim.  

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Bardo_Thodol on 16.12.2003 at 12:28:05


titud wrote on 16.12.2003 at 11:50:44:
To,  da smo titove pufe edino slovenci vzeli resno in smo pri njihovem vračanju bolj papeški od papeža je samo odraz naše iracionalne  hvaležnosti do svojih novih gopodarjev, ki so nam kao omogočl, da nam ni blo treba it skoz isti pekel kot drugim.  

To seveda ne drži, saj so v delitveni bilanci bivših republik tudi pufi razpadle Jugoslavije in ni samo Slovenija tista, ki jih je dolžna vračati. V južnejših republikah so si težo bremena dolgov morda le začasno odložili zaradi ravnokar končanih vojn, torej zaradi še težjih bremen.

Vprašaj kogarkoli in ti bo odgovoril, da je raje v državi, kjer se ne koljejo in  kjer jim ne rušijo domov in kjer je standard trikrat ali večkrat večji, pa čeprav v državi, ki  redno poravnava obveznosti do posojilodajalcev.




Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by titud on 16.12.2003 at 13:05:29

Bardo, hočeš rečt, da vidiš kakšen kakšen poseben smisu v teh dolžniških  razmerjih oz. vrlino v tem, da smo tko pridni dolžniki?

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Bardo_Thodol on 16.12.2003 at 13:15:40


titud wrote on 16.12.2003 at 13:05:29:
Bardo, hočeš rečt, da vidiš kakšen kakšen poseben smisu v teh dolžniških  razmerjih oz. vrlino v tem, da smo tko pridni dolžniki?

Jaz osebno se ne zadolžujem.  Tako požrešen tudi nisem in imam raje manj, kot da bi bil zapufan.

Kaj pa ti? A tebi se ne zdi pošteno, da je dolžnost vsakogar, ki si je kaj izposodil, da tisto tudi vrne?




Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by titud on 16.12.2003 at 13:50:27

Jest sem zapufan kolikor morem bit, vendar se zavedam, da ni to samo moj interes ampak tud intere s tistih, ki mi dnar posojajo in mi to tud mastno zaračunavajo. Jest v tem svojem odplačevanju dolgov ne vidm kakšen posebne moralne dolžnosti, ker  mi dnar ni posodu prjatu na podlagi zaupanja ampak banka na podlagi ocene poslovnega rizika. Če jest dnarja kdaj ne bi mogu ali hotu vrnt zarad tega ne bi imel kašnega posebnega moralnega mačka, še posebej, če bi to znal nardit tko, da ne bi občutu sorazmernega pritiska upnikov.  

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by m on 13.02.2004 at 11:17:40

ok, tale naslov topica bo kar pravi...

otvoritev Mediamarkta na Poljskem:
http://members.chello.at/h3llbring0r/mediamarkt/


se večkrat vprašam, kam gre ta svet  :P

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by t on 13.02.2004 at 11:34:58


m wrote on 13.02.2004 at 11:17:40:
ok, tale naslov topica bo kar pravi...

otvoritev Mediamarkta na Poljskem:
http://members.chello.at/h3llbring0r/mediamarkt/


se večkrat vprašam, kam gre ta svet  :P




v konzumshaft bi rekli germani  8)



uživajte!

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Eva on 23.02.2013 at 11:41:17

sm k verouku hodila in še več
http://consciouslifenews.com/pope-benedict-resigning/1149296/

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by gape on 23.02.2013 at 12:39:59

velik nas je tja hodil ja ...

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Petra. on 21.03.2014 at 16:30:52

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqQh0wS6uT4

je s podnapisi, kdo v resnici vodi evropo

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Robi on 24.04.2014 at 19:35:09

To tudi spada v rubriko, saj ni res, pa je.

http://www.delo.si/novice/slovenija/sonce-ukinja-pokojnine.html

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Petra. on 24.10.2014 at 18:17:16

kako se šefi države lotevajo zmolst, tiste k že tko nimajo dost, do zadnje kaplice krvi.

Title: Re: Saj ni res, pa je.....
Post by Petra. on 09.09.2015 at 17:08:48

http://www.rtvslo.si/crna-kronika/bavcarju-in-susinskemu-razveljavili-sodbo/373619#comments

sami nedolžni

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