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Title: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by gape on 09.09.2002 at 13:37:27 Skupina Težki časi (Troubled Times) verjame, da bodo leta 2003 Zemljo pretresle katastrofe neslutenega obsega. Vzrok tega naravnega dogodka je velikanski planet, ki je bil znan našim prednikom, današnji ljudje pa ga ne poznajo, ki se bo takrat, v okviru svojega 3600 let trajajočega cikla okoli Sonca, gibal blizu Zemlje. http://www.zetatalk.com/slovene/thub.htm |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by alenka07 on 09.09.2002 at 22:49:33 :) :) :) ... kaj pa zdaj Gape? nas boš kar pustil, da se predamo strahu ... ??? itak se bliža 11. 9. ... ;) |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by gape on 09.09.2002 at 23:29:01 ne zakaj sej motiti se je človeško pa tud če se zemlja začne u drugo stran vrtet ni panike greš na tiglav in čao, računalnik neseš s sabo, in ko pridemo dol bomo že zrihtl reči, point je samo v tem da si pripravljen. maja dvomim da se bo zemlja začela kontra vrtet, ker sm to tud drugje že zasledu pa ni noben o tolk zgodnjem datumu govoru. sicer pa sej veš, časa je do 2012 3 leta prej pa maitreya uleti ni panike, je pa zanimivo čtivo, bomo vidl kva bo nism sploh uspel prečitat usega a je hudo? a se poklapa s tvojo resnico ... če se ne, pol že ni res. je pa možno, ni nujno da se bo zgodil, je pa možno, sej veš, spremembe so potrebne, vse sorte se dogaja, če bo koga to premaknl da je časa samo še do maja 2003, kul, naj se premakne, naj se odloči za stran ... vsak rab neki druzga, nekateri imajo tako resnico da jim to pomaga, egotom ... tko da ni panike, ni strah ... a nisi že zadost dobrga nardila u lajfu, da če bi mela zadost cajta, bi se zihr rasvetlila do 2012, če ti bog odmeri premalo časa, je zihr za to namen in point je dosežen, to je vse poštiman, če se jutr postavš na pravo pot si (od)rešena že jutr - razsvetljenje ti ne uide ... tud če se maja zemlja u drugo stran začne vrtet ... ni panike, ti si že tm, ker vse kar šteje je tuki in zdaj in če si tuki in zdaj na pravi poti, je to to, sej veš, mantra is stronger than atom bomb - om namaha shivaya! http://www.gape.org/gapes/prispevki/alien28k/Om%20Namaha%20Shivaya.mp3 zdej glih berem nostradamusa ... kaj tm prebereš ... kaj vse nas še čaka ... res je zadnji čas da odidemo s tega planeta in seveda (kot ponavadi) da damo tudi drugim to možnost. skratka kul je ... kdor bo imel vero bo zmogu vse naloge, ki nam jih prihodnost prinaša. tko je obljubljeno, tko tud bo. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Andres on 10.09.2002 at 00:24:18 A še nisi opazil, da si v zadnjih letih nadevajo neka stronomska imena? Zetatalk, pa Chiron, pol je bla tudi Ašthar komanda, in nobenega vesoljčka ni bilo 11.8.97. Ma ja. Saj bo ruknu kakšen planet v Zemljo, ampak ne glih zdaj čez par mesecev. O ne, to pa ne. Andres |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by gape on 10.09.2002 at 09:15:20 sm učeri to fejst premediteru bomo vidl čez 8 mescov grem naprej brat reč zgleda precej konsistentna, mi je pa čudno da bi tko blo pa da nas vladarji nebi na to opozoril, čeprov je logično da nas ne opozorijo, če bi nas (tv ob pol osmih npr), bi jutr redkokdo šu u službo, velik ljudi bi tud začel krast opremo, ker bi jo takoj povsod zmanjkal, in ker bi zlo cene poskočile. namreč, če je to res, potem popolnoma druge reči dobijo vrednost, kot tudi vrednoste, če se to zgodi, no more elektrika, no more tlefon, no more nothing, samo še lastna iznajdljivost, podobno kot v mad maxu, pa še iz poletja pademo u zimo ... |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Kali on 10.09.2002 at 13:45:32 btw, ogromno narodov in ljudi napoveduje velike spremembe na zemlji, katastrofe, dvig Atlantide... Da se o tem marsikaj poiskat na netu. Zanimivo pri tem je , da so vse napovedi si dokaj podobne, čeprav izhajajo iz različnih koncev sveta, ljudstev in posameznikov, vsi pa zatrjujejo, da živimo v najbolj razburljivih časih, kar jih je bilo na zemlji. Čas sprememb in resnice in predvsem ljubezni. Maitreya pravi, da se stvari nam lahko začnejo dogajati šele, ko se odrečemo egu. Spremembe se v bistvu že dogajajo, saj sami vidimo kako vreme imamo, potresi... Bomo videli kaj bo. Drgač je pa tako po mojem največja štala, vse vojne v katere se bo vpletel George Bush. Lahko se pa motim, a ne.?! Nostradamusa sem tudi že ful preštudirala, če bo tako kot je on napovedal, oz. kakor so si njegove verze razlagali drugi, potem bo res grozno. Samo so te napovedi res zelo morbidne, se mi od drugih ne zdijo tako zelo težke, črne... Drugače naj bi bili do leta 2012 na zemlji že v 5 dimenziji, drugo leto, mislim da enkrat poleti, pa naj bi stopili v 4 dimenzijo, dimenzijo ljubezni in videnja novih energij. Drugače naj bi vsi tisti, ki imajo ljubezen v sebi in so dobri ljudje preživeli vse katastrofe. Tisti, ki bodo po nesreči umrli, kot npr. ljudje 11.9., pa naj bi se izognili nadaljnim inkarnacijam, ne bo se jim več potrebno vrniti na Zemljo, ki pa je baje eden najlepših planetom v celem vesolju, tako da se lahko vsak malo zamisli nad tem, koliko je pripomogel k temu, da se ohrani narava taka kot smo jo dobili, ko smo se rodili. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by gape on 10.09.2002 at 13:55:05 Petra. wrote on 10.09.2002 at 13:45:32:
e tako s tem kakšen si tukaj in zdaj definiraš svojo prihodnost, kakršnakoli že pač bo ... |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Valentina on 10.09.2002 at 14:39:48 Tudi Marko Pogačnik: http://www.ljudmila.org/pogacnik/FrameSET1.html Bomo vidl! |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Oldi on 10.09.2002 at 15:05:18 Dajte no, tak ogromen planet bi že davnaj odkrili amaterski astronomi, sicer pa to po logiki sploh ne more biti planet, ker se ne giblje po planetom namenjenih tirnicah. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Kali on 10.09.2002 at 15:18:42 glede tega planeta ne vem točno, ni vedno omenjen, je pa res, da se veliko govori še o enem planetu našega sončnega sistema, ki še ni odkrit. Aja, Oldi, drugače obstajajo še druge dimenzije, glede na to, da je zemlja v 3 dimenziji, morda je ta planet v višjih frekvencah in potemtakem sploh ne more biti viden povprečnemu gledalcu. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by gape on 10.09.2002 at 16:18:40 glede tega planeta nibiru-ja - vandrovca kot mu pravi mohorič herez a picture http://www.crystalinks.com/nibiru.html and some more http://www.crystalinks.com/kabala.html http://www.crystalinks.com/archetypes.html The internet had to happen so we can all share information and put the pieces of the puzzle together as we help each other remember. http://www.crystalinks.com/sirius.html If you have found your way to this file, there is something about Sirius or the metaphors linked to it that is a trigger for you. Perhaps it is about Nibiru which many people feel will return in 2003. This will not happen but is yet another metaphor for our awakening consciousness. trigger http://www.crystalinks.com/sacred_geometry.html |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Bardo Thodol on 10.09.2002 at 17:06:08 Možno bi sicer bilo, da obstaja objekt velikosti Zemlje ali tudi večji, ki kroži okoli sonca po neobičajni tirnici. To bi pomenilo da ni nastal hkrati z ostalimi planeti in da dejansko ni od nastanka osončja njegov član in da se mu je priključil kasneje. Zaradi velikosti in kroženja okoli sonca bi ga, če bi obstajal, lahko imenovali planet. Zelo nenavadno je, da ga še niso odkrili, ampak se o njem samo ugiba, kar seveda daje krila domišljiji. Njegova oddaljenost od sonca bi tudi pomenila, da je zelo hladen in potem s kakšnim življenjem na njem ne moremo resno računati, posebno pa ne s kakšnimi reptili ali dvoživkami, kar nekateri omenjajo. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by gape on 10.09.2002 at 18:24:02 branje zgornjega texta o nibiruju toplo priporočam ... |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by alenka07 on 10.09.2002 at 18:30:34 :) :) :) ... Gape, hvala za tale pojasnila in optimistične besede ;). Vedela sem, da jih imaš, zato sem jih želela slišati :) - hvala Ti! :) ...saj veš, kot vem jaz - marsikaj se dogaja, tudi katastrofičnega..., se je dogajalo, se bo dogajalo... ...tudi vse napovedi za prihodnost, še tako črnoglede, so bile napisane iz "tistega" danega trenutka...in ne pomeni, da veljajo za prihodnost tudi v "tem" danem trenutku... ;) ...pa tudi marsikaj lepega se je dogajalo, se dogaja, se bo dogajalo...celo, vedno več je tega... :) in to me navdaja z optimizmom... ne ni me strah... kakorkoli že bo...dolgo že živim, pa vem, da še dolgo bom ;), tako ali drugače...je pa res, da prav rada na tejle Zemljici živim... :) ;) in vem tudi, da Življenje tukaj na njej ni popolno...ampak cilj je to...Živeti Življenje... na Zemlji... ;) :) ...v danem Trenutku...tukaj, zdaj - vsak tukaj in vsak zdaj... ;) ...se to poklapa s Tvojo Resnico Gape? Saj vem odgovor, pa vseeno... :) :) :) ...da rečem še enkrat - malo drugače: z Ljubeznijo Ljubezni naproti in jo Živeti... :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* alenka |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Oldi on 11.09.2002 at 07:35:58 gape wrote on 10.09.2002 at 18:24:02:
Ja Bardo je napisou tko k' je ;) |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by A. on 14.09.2002 at 21:04:10 ja kje si mi najdu zetatalk, to so tipi uvedl ene 5 let nazaj?? se mi zdi da so takrat dosegl popularnost, k jih je poznal tud folk, ki drugač ni ravno blestel s teh področij... sem mislu, da so se zgubil ampak ene dva dni nazaj sem pa pomislu spet kje so ti modeli in evo pridem sem in gape piše o njih... drugač pa sem mi zdi, da so zetatalk napovedal že vse mogoče katastrofe do danes, pa ni blo veliko od dogodkov, ki bi dokazali zetatalk prerokabe... |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by gape on 14.09.2002 at 22:44:45 ana mi ga je pokazala se mi zdi nimajo veze sploh prerokbe, ki bi se naj uresničile, veze imajo sprožilci - 'trigger-ji', ti naj bi nas spominli kdo zares smo, ozadje teh 'dogodkov' je pomebno. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Andres on 14.09.2002 at 22:54:02 S temi zetatalki in drugimi podobnimi stvarmi je po moje tako, da se uresniči al pa ne. Če se ne uresniči gre za deformirano informacijo :), če pa uresniči se, je to pač zadetek v polno. Sem bral pri Hrvatih eno stran, ki govori o nečem kao nek Indijski horoskop, veda, pojma nimam, sem pozabil. Na podlagi tega naj bi bilo 17. aprila letos nekaj groznega na zemlji. In kaj se je zgodilo? Nič.. Isti signal je bil 11.9. lani. Ne vem, preveč je Zetatalkov, in ko nekaj ni tako kot so napovedali se vsi poskrijejo v mišje luknje. Andres |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Borut on 14.09.2002 at 23:31:56 Je pa razmisliti. Prej ali slej se bo nekaj zgodilo. Smo v dekadenci in prej ali slej se bomo dotaknili dna in se obrnili nazaj proti gor. Je pa res, da je potrebno vsako tako zadevo gledati iz več strani. Lahko se zbere skupina ljudi in če zna manipulirat dovolj kvalitetno, potem potegne za sabo veliko število ljudi. Nastane sinergija in eto, jutri se zamenjajo zemeljski poli. Verjamem pa, da še dokler bom jaz živ, nas bo doletela sigurno kaka katastrofa. Če ne naravna pa kaka vojna. Nekaj se bo sigurno zgodilo. Preveč je napovedi iz različnih virov o preobrazbi sveta, da bi človek ne verjel. Zanima me, če je kdo iz tistih, ki zagovarjajo teorijo o menjavi polov že prodal svojo hišo ali stanovanje ob morju ali v LJ in se preselil v Prekmurje.....mislim da nihče! Kaj to pomeni??? Še ena teorija pač. Zato, pripraviti se, povezovati se z naravo in znati poslušati je mislim da osnovna naloga vsakega posameznika. Borut |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by alenka07 on 15.09.2002 at 11:02:54 :) :) :) ne morem, da ne bi... :) :) :) :-* Kali: ....da živimo v najbolj razburljivih časih, kar jih je bilo na zemlji. Čas sprememb in resnice in predvsem ljubezni... ...je tudi moja resnica... :) Kali: glede tega planeta ne vem točno, ... Aja, Oldi, drugače obstajajo še druge dimenzije, glede na to, da je zemlja v 3 dimenziji, morda je ta planet v višjih frekvencah in potemtakem sploh ne more biti viden povprečnemu gledalcu. Drugače naj bi bili do leta 2012 na zemlji že v 5 dimenziji, drugo leto, mislim da enkrat poleti, pa naj bi stopili v 4 dimenzijo, dimenzijo ljubezni in videnja novih energij... ...sprejemam ... :) ;) Borut: in prej ali slej se bomo dotaknili dna in se obrnili nazaj proti gor. ...se strinjam - mislim, da se dogaja to že - pri mnogih - na osebni ravni...se je dogajalo, se dogaja, se bo dogajalo. - lahko bi rekli katastrofe v življenju posameznika...in...saj vemo vse kaj vse... in ... človek na novo vstane - nov in drugačen... - in potem - vzame Življenje v svoje roke... in ... se človeku obrne Življenje za ??? stopinj... :) ;) Borut: Lahko se zbere skupina ljudi in če zna manipulirat dovolj kvalitetno, potem potegne za sabo veliko število ljudi. Nastane sinergija in eto, jutri se zamenjajo zemeljski poli. ...tudi meni je bila v prvem branju v mislih taka zamenjava polov - v smislu preobrazbe - ljudi, mišljenja, vrednot...da enkrat - končno - ali pa ponovno...pozitivne - optimistične plati - Ljubezen -prevlada, zavlada...preokrene dogajanja in Življenje na Zemlji... :) Gape: ni nujno da se bo zgodil, je pa možno, sej veš, spremembe so potrebne, vse sorte se dogaja, če bo koga to premaknl da je časa samo še do maja 2003, kul, naj se premakne, naj se odloči za stran ... vsak rab neki druzga, nekateri imajo tako resnico da jim to pomaga, egotom ... ...sprejemam... :) Gape: veze imajo sprožilci - 'trigger-ji', ti naj bi nas spominli kdo zares smo, ozadje teh 'dogodkov' je pomebno. ...se strinjam... :) Gape: ker vse kar šteje je tuki in zdaj s tem kakšen si tukaj in zdaj definiraš svojo prihodnost, kakršnakoli že pač bo ... ...se popolnoma strinjam... ...več, ko nas bo - in bolj ko bomo MI - TUKI in ZDAJ ... hitreje in "blažje" se bodo zamenjali poli Življenja na Zemlji... ...in planet, ki je/ni planet ;)... Gape... imaš kakšno asociacijo ??? :) :) :) ...svetlobna krogla ... :) ;) ::) ...več ne bi...ni moje, da bi...bo že oseba...ki...saj veš... :) :) :) :) :) :) :) ...Zemlja je tako lepa, nismo slučajno na njej...in Živeti Življenje je tako lepo... :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* alenka |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by gape on 15.09.2002 at 12:19:27 vem ... čakam ... nedelujem |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Kali on 16.09.2002 at 12:50:32 Drugače pa, ko bomo v 5. dimenziji, bomo tam kjer je bila Atlantida pred katastrofo. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Oldi on 18.09.2002 at 08:43:21 Ma kake dimenzije neki. Planet je materija in ko te oplazi tebe ni več v fizični dimenziji. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Anonymous Coward on 18.09.2002 at 10:03:50 Doomsayers seem to pop up every few years. Last time, it was the alignment of the planets that somehow managed not to destroy the Earth in May 2000. Now, we have Planet X. A few people are claiming that a heretofore unknown planet in our solar system is on a very long, elliptical orbit. In May 2003, it will pass close enough to the Earth to affect it in some way, causing it to flip over (what many call a "pole shift") and spur many other huge disasters. The end result will be the deaths of many billions of people. There are a large number of web pages, chat rooms and books about Planet X and its horrible affects on the Earth. So the question is, does this planet exist, and will it come by in May 2003 and cause all this horror?... http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/ http://www.planet-x.150m.com/ http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question4.html Moj komentar je samo škoda, da tolk dobrih in pametnih ljudi izgublja čas za neumnosti. Znova in znova. Lp, Anonymous Coward |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by gape on 18.09.2002 at 10:23:45 ja res je a ti to o sebi, da izgubljaš čas s tem, al o nas, ki kuitak izgublajmo čas s takimi in podobnimi rečmi, ker če si pozorno preberš vse texte boš ugotovu kje je v bistvu hec tega, če ti pa ne bo potegnl pa si lahko vzamem (ponovno) čas in ti razložim. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Oldi on 18.09.2002 at 11:09:23 Če je tole letelo name se nima smisla matrat, kar se pa tiče Planeta X in premika polov je pa to čista neumnost. Kako naj bi na daljavo spremenil os vrtenja homogeni masivni krogli (zemlji), ki se vrti s tako hitrostjo kot naša zemljica. To je čista bedarija. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by gape on 18.09.2002 at 11:22:19 nope letelo je na anonimno šlevo Oldio wrote on 18.09.2002 at 11:09:23:
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Bardo Thodol on 18.09.2002 at 11:47:50 Magnetni poli Zemlje so se v njeni dolgi zgodovini že velikokrat zamenjali. Zadnja zamenjava je bila pred 740.000 leti. Če bi nanjo res vplival planet X, bi to pomenilo, da ga že tričetrt milijona let ni bilo nič naokoli 8) Resnični vzroki premikanja magnetnih polov Zemlje so bolj verjetno povezani z dogajanji v njeni tekoči in vroči notranjosti (magma). Natančnega mehanizma ne pozna nihče, vendar se nekaj podobnega dogaja tudi na soncu, kjer se magnetni poli bolj pogosto spreminjajo in so tesno povezani s povečano aktivnostjo sonca (sončne pege, protuberance, ...), kar se intenzivira približno na vsakih 11 let. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by herby on 20.09.2002 at 14:56:00 Rečejo mu tud Niburu http://www.detailshere.com/niburu.htm |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Gvido Penzl on 20.09.2002 at 19:10:00 Meni Pa LEILA :-* :-* :-* |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by herby on 15.11.2002 at 09:18:57 DA mal updejtam... kateri so že znaki? povečana vulkanska in potresna aktivnost: so potrdil znanstveniki (sobotna priloga) da je tendenca močnejšim izbruhom in pogostejših potresov gospodarski sistem se ruši: ja na dnevniku tega ne govorijo, je pač cenzura, če pa mal financial times bereš or so, pa ugotoviš, da že 10 let pada svet v recesijo magnetizem se spreminja: tudi to so znanstveniki potrdili, oni sicer napovedujejo v 100 letih, da se bodo poli zamenjali a vendarle, ugotavljajo da se zemljin magnetizem drastično zmanšuje ( s tem tudi zaščita pred sevanji iz vesolja) in da se to redno dogaja vsakih 250000let vremenske neprilike: značilne so ekstremne spremembe... kaj ni blo prejšen teden minus zjutrej včeri pa 21 stopinj (sredi novembra!!), kaj niso v najbolj sušnem mesecu letos poleti bile v europi poplave ne vem, vse skup je mal sumljivo |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Kali on 15.11.2002 at 12:32:08 Ja, npr. v nacionalnem parku Yellowstone v USA, je 8km globoko jezero magme, ki je 50km dolgo, 30km široko in 10km globoko. Je polno plinov, ki so pod ekstremnim pritiskom. V bistvu je cel park velikanski krater, kjer je bil izbruh nazadnje 640 000 let nazaj in redno bruha na približno 600 000 let. In letno je na tem območju na stotine potresov, vedno več. Sumljivo je pa vedno bolj marsikaj! Treba samo mal opazovat okol sebe. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Kali on 20.02.2003 at 12:52:27 Planet X: Comets & Earth Changes The EDGE Interview with James McCanney by Cathy Smith Perhaps one of the most controversial figures in astronomy, offering evidence that a planet-sized body may come close to Earth as early as this May, James McCanney, M.S., a former theoretical physicist at Cornell University, spoke with The EDGE about his findings, which are detailed in his recently published book, Planet-X: Comets & Earth Changes. Subtitled "A Scientific Treatise on the Effects of a new large Planet or Comet arriving in our Solar System and Expect Earth Weather and Earth Changes," this book has some people quite nervous and reportedly has high governmental officials planning ways to protect themselves in the case of cataclysmic disaster. What is the nature and origin of Planet X, also known as the tenth planet in our solar system? James McCanney: First of all. I want to put in perspective the solar system in general and I'll do this throughout the interview to clarify my beliefs, as opposed to what you may hear or say from a standard astronomy textbook. First of all, the solar system was not created all at one time as NASA would have you believe. All of the planets except for Jupiter have been adopted into the solar system one at a time throughout the history of the solar system. The original star system was just Jupiter and our Sun. So throughout history, we've gathered occurrences where new planets come into form by an electrical process. They become very large comets and then nestle in as planets, and my theoretical work shows how all of this happens. Let's call any new planet to come into the solar system "Planet X," because that is a term that is used for objects that have not been named yet. If we could go way outside of the solar system and look back at our solar system from a distance and identify all of the bodies that are associated with it, we would see numerous large objects, possibly in very large orbits around the Sun. Only a few of them come into the inner solar system where we live, and the ones that do frequent the inner solar system, some may be on orbits of 100,000 years, while some might be on orbits of a few thousand years. These objects are the ones that have affected Earth in the past. We are now expecting another object, which possibly has been here before, to come into the inner solar system within possibly the next 10 years -- and there is a good reason to believe that it might be as early as May 2003. This Planet X is in the category of large solar system objects that orbit our Sun and also come within the planetary region of our solar system occasionally. A few of these in the past have come close enough to Earth or close enough to the Sun to cause serious damage to planet Earth. I also should mention that we see the marks of these "invaders," so to speak, or these periodic visitors on the other planets. For example, Mars is devoid of an atmosphere and its oceans, but it's very clear when you look at Mars that it lost its water and atmosphere recently. So, the belief that an object could come into this solar system and drastically affect Earth is not that outlandish. NASA, of course, will try and tell you that the solar system formed all at one time four and a half billion years ago and all the planets have been in stable orbits since then, but even NASA is discovering new planets that it never knew about -- and it has no explanation for where these mini planets came from. I want to mention Hale-Bopp, the comet that visited the inner solar system in the 1990s. It was a perfect example of a new planet that is in its formative stages. NASA kept secret the real information on Hale-Bopp long before its 1995 discovery, which was made public, that it was on a near-collision course with Earth. However, due to its dragging in the tail material and becoming larger, its orbit was altered so that Earth moved ahead three months during that about nine-year period to the point where we were no longer on a collision course with Hale-Bopp. The other thing is NASA has been lying about the size of the nucleus of Hale-Bopp. The nucleus of Hale-Bopp is about the size of our Moon. They claim that it's only a large comet, possibly only 80 miles in extent. So, we've already seen one of these Planet X type objects. NASA & VATICAN LINKS NASA was in communication with the Vatican during the 1990s, and the Vatican, in fact, built a major observatory in Arizona, staffed it with NASA astronomers. The main purpose of that observatory was to observe the large comet Hale-Bopp. The question the Vatican posed to NASA was, "Is Hale-Bopp wormwood?" (Wormwood is the the large planetary object referenced in Revelations that ravaged Earth.) So they all knew very early in the early '90s that this large comet, Hale-Bopp, was on a near-collision course with Earth, but throughout the '90s they refused to make this public. The Hopi Indians believe that Hale-Bopp was the precursor to what we call Planet X. My personal belief is that Hale-Bopp was a small companion to the large Planet X on its previous visit about 4,000 years ago and that there was also another companion to Planet X, which later became the planet Venus, as explained by Immanuel Belikovsky. My theoretical work shows how comets are not dirty snowballs, that they are, in fact, a plasma-electrical phenomenon involving the Sun and an astroidal comet nucleus and, in fact, that these comets are dragging in the tail material and becoming larger. So, in the case of Venus, my theoretical work explains how Venus was a huge comet, ravaged Earth on two separate occasions about 4,000 and 3,600 years ago and then as it absorbed material from the comet tail, eventually nestled into the orbit where we see it today. Could you please explain the history of your work back to 1979 when you were on the faculty of Cornell University, which led to your current book, Planet X, Comets and Earth Changes? McCanney: I was a theoretical physicist at that time, studying celestial mechanics and plasma physics on my own. I also had access to NASA data from space probes, which were newly discovering the properties of Jupiter, Saturn, Venus and the other planets. What I found was that the expectations of traditional theory were not being met. I found that the electrical, magnetic nature of the solar system that I had been studying quietly in the back room was very pronounced in the data that was coming back from these space probes. Thus, I began publishing my papers in astrophysics journals. And then I was actually relieved of my teaching position at Cornell because my theories (about the nature of comets) were so radically different from the standard norm. I lost my teaching position and was blackballed from further publication. I continued to study this over the past 30-plus years and this has led to my current book, Planet X, Comets and Earth Changes, which was written for the general public. It also contains the early technical papers in the back for more technically minded people. The book was written to explain my theories on how the Sun's electric fields affect our weather and what I call Earth changes. My point is that these large comets, which are fairly rare but do visit our inner solar system occasionally as is imminently clear from historical records from the ancients, can drastically affect the planet in numerous ways. In the book I explain the theoretical nature of comets and describe how they become planets, new members of our solar system, and also how their near-approaches to the inner solar system can cause dramatic Earth changes. EARTH CHANGES....? What are some of the Earth changes expected to take place as this planet approaches the Earth? McCanney: First of all, we don't have a definite sighting on this object. There is a belief, based on NASA's internal studies from the early '90s, that this object is coming in from a southerly location that is only visible during the month of May from the very southern locations on Earth, specifically New Zealand. Last spring, the weather in New Zealand did not cooperate and we were unable to get good observations, but we're waiting possibly as early as February of this year to be able to observe this object in the southern hemisphere as the Earth turns around the Sun. We do believe a large, new object is coming into the solar system because of the preparations of the governments around the world, including our own. They're building cave cities for certain elite members of our society and basically leaving the rest of us out to hang like dirty laundry in the wind. The effects on the Earth are very clear, both from my theoretical work and from what the ancients describe. There are episodes of mountain building. There could be a pole shift caused by a gravitational tidal wave that moves through the surface mantle of the Earth. There would be flooding both from tidal waves of the oceans, tremendous atmospheric storms and also from a huge pollution influx of oil and water -- hydrocarbons and water -- from inner planetary space onto Earth. And all of these things have been seen in the past. The Bible talks about, for example, when all the vermin, bugs, insects and snakes came out of the ground and overran the Earth. This was a direct result of the electric fields penetrating the mantle of the Earth and causing these creatures to leave the ground and come out of the ground. The atmospheric conditions include the increase in the number of volcanoes going off. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Kali on 20.02.2003 at 12:53:23 I want to mention is that these planetary objects do not have to come necessarily that close to Earth to cause even dramatic Earth changes. Electrical discharges can occur between the planets even a distance apart. These, in fact, have been measured with NASA satellites where, in the 1990s, we saw incredible electrical discharges flow between Jupiter and Earth, taking out a number of our communication satellites. The scientists at that time were totally puzzled that outer space could do this. They still don't understand the very electrical nature of our solar system. My book explains, in fact, how this works in a theoretical sense, and it also explains in a practical sense the effects it would have on planet Earth. Have we already seen any of the effects that could be attributed to Planet X? McCanney: Absolutely. We're seeing the Sun at an excited level never before seen. There was a solar maximum in the year 2000 that would be the expected time for the Sun to reach the maximum of activity on its 11-year solar cycle, and after that it would be expected to diminish in energy over that 11-year span of time. We should be well on the way in the year 2003 to the solar minimum, but instead, the Sun is at an explosive state never before seen in the history of our solar system. My theoretical work shows how, in fact, the Sun is interacting with some large object that we have not seen yet -- NASA probably has seen it, but it is not telling us -- causing the dramatic solar flares that we're seeing. Are there any safe zones to be aware of should this come to pass? McCanney: It's very difficult to say that there are so-called "safe zones." You might be safe from flooding in one area, but earthquakes and volcanic activity might be devastating. The best thing you can say is that it would not be safe to be near the oceans, because of the movement of the oceans, tidal waves and that type of Earth change. What is desperately needed is public awareness so we can build safe shelters, domed regions with reinforced cement. We know these structures will withstand a lot, but right now there's been no preparation except for the people who we call "leaders" in this country. They've prepared for a 50-year span where they would be safe in caves, without informing the public who, very much at this point, could be on the road towards preparedness and being in a mode of being much better off than they would be with no information and no preparation. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Kali on 20.02.2003 at 12:54:13 ICE AGES Please explain how the findings of ancient civilizations in the so-called Ice Age relates to your theory. McCanney: What is very clear is that the Ice Age that we see in North America, what we call the Laurentian ice shield, was actually the old north polar cap of Earth. At that time, Siberia had a tropical climate and the south pole was in the region of the south Indian Ocean. What we're finding is that the mass extinction that included the mastodons, the woolly mammoths and the saber tooth tiger was an event that occurred due to the passage of a very large celestial object that caused the poles to move approximately 30-40 degrees. The old north pole of Earth used to be somewhere north of the state of Wisconsin, and this shift happened overnight. The mastodons in Siberia that are frozen in the tundra, for example, were quick-frozen in a moment's notice. The one they dug out of the tundra just a year or two ago, was standing on all fours with undigested tropical plants in its throat. In other words, it was frozen, alive, while standing. We find this type of devastation all around the world. We're also learning how vast civilizations of humans around the globe were devastated at that time. Entire cities, predating the Egyptian pyramids, are being dug out of the lower regions of the Andes mountains in South America. An ancient pyramid-type city, off the coast of Cuba, was recently discovered 2,000 feet under the ocean surface. And, of course, we have tales of cities like Atlantis and the prediluvian world, with standard science trying its best to explain away all of this as being localized events. But what is crystal clear is that this was one worldwide event caused by the passage of a large celestial object -- and we are expecting that this could happen in the future with the passage of a large object that we call Planet X. This passes approximately every 3,600 years? McCanney: There are people saying numbers, but I don't give numbers myself unless I have scientific data. There are people claiming that they have visions or other sources of information that would indicate May 2003 would be the date of the next passage, but I won't predict dates or project dates into the past without definite scientific information. There is a definite dating structure, however, that shows that approximately 3,600 years ago there was a major event on this planet caused by an extra-celestial object. But, when it will happen in the future is unknown scientifically at this time, except to the people in NASA who are hiding the information from the public. Most of the information about Planet X, comets and earth changes have been strictly grassroots. Why hasn't NASA or the government released this information to the general public? McCanney: NASA scientists are under a strict National Security Agency contract to not talk to the public at all. They cannot talk to the public about anything. NASA has official news release agencies. NASA has been confronted with the topic of Planet X, but it has chosen to send out representatives who are not NASA employees, and the first thing that they say is they do not represent NASA or their interests. To date, NASA has refused to make a public statement on record regarding Planet X, its arrival date and what they know about this large object that we believe is coming in the solar system. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Kali on 20.02.2003 at 12:54:50 MEDIA DISINFORMATION Now, there's been much disinformation on the subject in the media. Can you shed some light on this? McCanney: If you go on the internet and search for Planet X, you'll find a tremendous amount of disinformation. There has been a concerted disinformation campaign by the government through people on the internet, some of whom claim to be visionary or talk to aliens. Other disinformation comes from people who simply use their first name. What I'm attempting to do with my book and radio interviews is draw a middle ground and some clarity to this topic. I've been on possibly 50 national radio shows in the past four months. I have my own radio show on the internet every Thursday night from 9-10 p.m. Eastern, streaming on the internet [www.realityradionetwork.com]. You have the disinformation people on the internet on one side, and you have the government introducing disinformation on the other, leaving the public unable to understand what they should believe. That's why I have been very popular on these radio shows. People understand what I'm saying and it makes sense. Now, Jim, is it possible that this is one of the cataclysmic events prophesied by those such as the Bible, Nostradamus and Edgar Cayce? McCanney: Yes, and if you look at not just the prediction of Earth changes and dramatic Earth devastation, many of the other prophecies are very much coming in line with this event. So, for people who have studied those topics, most people agree that we are on the verge of having another major Earth change. The Hopi Indians have an entire legend built around this. Their early cultures talked very much about the passage, about the seven stages of Earth changes as they called them. They make no qualms about the Earth changes. They say that the comets are the things that cause this and that the blue comets are the dangerous ones. We now know scientifically that the blue comets are the dangerous ones, because those are the ones that are so electrically active that they literally light up like a light bulb in the daytime sky. Is it expected that there will be a collision with the Earth or are these changes going to happen by a near passage? McCanney: The probability of a direct collision is very remote and very small, but in the past we know that these things have occurred without a large crater on Earth. In fact, all of the Earth changes can be explained by a near passage of one of these large objects through the inner solar system. In fact, my book talks about what I call "action at a distance." That is, the object does not have to be anywhere near Earth to cause dramatic Earth changes. For example, the object could interact electrically with the Sun, as it is doing now, the Sun would throw out an enormous solar flare and that would drastically affect our weather, causing tremendous storms that would devastate the Earth. It could reverse our magnetic field, causing a high amount of radiation to come into the planetary surface. It could increase the number of volcanoes that become active and cause earthquakes. We already know that the Sun can do this without the Planet X object being near Earth. Do you believe that if the public is well-informed about this event that they may take steps to prepare for it? McCanney: The entire purpose of my going public, and writing my book, is to make the statement that it's not a matter of "if" this is going to happen. The question is only "when." Preparation at an early stage is imperative. It would be a mistake to wait and allow ourselves to expect to prepare at the last minute. Government scientists are mistaken when they believe that this passage will only cause a day or two of trauma to the Earth. We are already seeing the effects of a large object in the solar system, and a near passage would cause months of effects before the passage and possibly years of effects afterwards. So, it is imperative to prepare early and to have good data that NASA is hiding right now that would help us prepare. THE SPIRITUAL ASPECT Now, looking at this from a spiritual aspect, could it be that this is a triggering device to awaken souls to the time of transition and a shift in consciousness and not an end-time scenario as many view it to be? McCanney: Absolutely. The human consciousness is definitely going to be awakened. For people to survive, it will not be possible for them to crawl into a cave by themselves with supplies and somehow come out of this as the sole survivor. It will have to be a total community effort where people understand what the damage and dangers would be and to prepare for it in a communal type of manner with total cooperation. Without such cooperation, there won't be any survivors -- if it's as serious as we think it possibly could be, if it's as serious as it has been in the past. We see that the civilizations that did survive the last encounter actually formed many of the religious beliefs that came out of ancient culture. For example, a simple one is that if a man died, his brother would marry his wife to keep the procreation going, because at that point they were in a desperate survival mode. So, you find that much of the civilizations that did survive in the past did so as civilizations, not as individuals. Along with your book, Planet X, Comets and Earth Changes, could you recommend any other good sources of information to people who would like to learn more about this topic. McCanney: As I mentioned, I host a weekly radio show on the internet and I also have a website that I keep current with information. Other books that would be pertinent might be Mark Hazlewood's book, Blindsided, which talks about the possibility that this object could be here as early as May 2003. Mark's book is important because it made the public aware of Planet X, not so much as he is specifying a date for a passage. A tremendous source of information is the work by Immanuel Velikovsky, who wrote three books describing his translation of ancient texts which, in fact, describe what the ancients encountered during the last series of Earth changes caused by an extra-solar system object. I'm going to mention also that NASA has spent decades downgrading his work, but what my work shows is that Velikovsky was right on the mark. The only thing missing from his books, which were written in the 1950s and describe Venus as a large comet that devastated Earth on two occasions 3,600 years ago, was a sound theoretical structure for his space science -- and that's what my work provides. It explains how comets become planets and how they come into the solar system and are formed. What is clear from recent space probe data is that all of the theories presented by NASA are incorrect. In an overall statement to society in general, what is it you would like to tell them about the whole subject of Planet X and what is the message that we need to receive from this? McCanney: The entire message of Planet X is that Earth has experienced and that civilizations have experienced these events in the past and they will happen again in the future. As a civilization, we have to prepare for this as it will be the most Earth-changing event in our future. Left totally unprepared, it might happen in 100 years, it might happen in 50 years, it could happen within the next 10 years or it could happen this coming May, but given any of those scenarios, we, as a civilization, as a species, must prepare for the most devastating event. If not, as a civilization we are doomed. And, being prepared is the most important thing that we can do. We can build cement domes that kids could play in when this is not an imminent danger, but left totally unprepared there would be nearly a mass extinction of the human race. That's why it's imperative that we prepare now, whether it's in the near future or the more distant future. We must prepare mentally, physically and spiritually as a human race for these events because, as I said before, it's not a matter of "if" it will happen, but a matter of "when." Our government, obviously, is doing this major cover-up about Planet X. What are the other countries doing? Are they covering up the information as well? McCanney: What's interesting is that this is public knowledge in other countries, including Russia, where we usually would consider it to be a state where the government controls information. The topic of Planet X has been on billboards in Moscow, so the public around the world is very much aware of this. The news media in the United States is very controlled by large corporations and government influence. In fact, the United States is one of the regions where very little, if anything, is known about Planet X amongst the general public. Throughout the '90s, top space scientists and astronomers in Russia took my published scientific papers, translated them into Russian and were teaching them to graduate-level science students in Russia in the top universities. Later in the 1990s, I noticed my e-mails were being intercepted, and eventually, my contact with the Russian scientists was cut off entirely. The Russian scientists became very interested in my work because they were experimentalists, atmospheric experimentalists and space scientists and they were measuring effects that they didn't understand. When they read my papers they realized that my papers explained what they were seeing. For more information, go to James McCanney's homepage at www.jmccanneyscience.com http://quizilla.com/users/arwen/quizzes/What%20Stone%20Are%20You%3F/ |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by ana on 20.05.2003 at 08:56:37 novosti: http://www.cyberkiko.com/ZetaTalk/slovene/t129.htm http://www.cyberkiko.com/tezkicasi/ med drugim piše: Najbolj kritičen čas je čas same menjavo polov, ki traja približno en dan. Točen dan trenutno ni znan, po zadnjih izračunih pa pade v obdobje med 15. majem 2003 in 1. junijem 2003. Na kaj paziti v tem obdobju, je v grobem opisano v članku Pogovor z Zetami - Preventivni ukrepi. Ob tem pa je smiselno upoštevati naslednje specifike Slovenije:... sem iskala Rainbow, da ga nainstaliram na svoj službeni PC, ki so mi ga razsuli med mojo dolgo odsotnostjo. Nahaja se seveda na istih straneh kot pa Zeta talk, saj ureja te strani Krištof Gajšek. mene take stvari pustijo mrtvo hladne. Se spomnim, ko sem pred mnogimi leti kot otrok prebirala stoletno pratiko pri starimami: kakšne katastrofe so bile napovedane za prehod v novo tisočletje! No, staramama je umrla (pred novim tisočletjem), nekaj njenih starih bukel sem dobila jaz in pred meseci sem zopet prebirala tiste katastrofalne stvari. Bi blo treba prepisat v opomin tistim, ki strašijo ljudi s koncem sveta - kolk je vse uresničljivo. Seveda vem, da do sprememb v svetu prihaja. Ne zatiskam si oči pred dejstvi. Ampak še vedno ostaja dejstvo, da je važnejše od našega zunanjega življenja naše notranje življenje. Da je zunanjost samo odraz viharjev, ki rjujejo v nas. Utišajmo jih, pa bo tudi strah pred katastrofami in same katastrofe izginil(i) |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Dayaran on 10.02.2008 at 22:14:39 hm, hecn, sem bral tole mal za nazaj... kako bi pa zdej stari akterji tega topica (tisti k ste še prisotni) komentiral svoje takratno razmišljanje? |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Petra G. on 11.02.2008 at 01:39:06 [smiley=1grin1.gif] ma tko je, da je fajn bit prizemljen v teh napornih cajtih. ;) joj, sem se šla prav mal brat, hi hi in ti nimam kaj dost o tem povedat, ker teh stvari sploh več ne berem niti kaj dost razmišljam. sem bla pa ful let precej študiozna in sem res tok enih stvari prebrala, da sploh nisme mela cajta skoc cedilo informacij dajat. me je pa življenje samo pripeljalo do tega, da sem precej v tukaj in zdaj in to se mi zdi dost pomembno. pač meni osebno. čim manj razmišljat o vsem skupaj, ker samo teoriziranje tud nikamor ne pripelje. se pa stvari definitivno dogajajo in odvijajo po enem master planu. ljudje smo pa tud taki kot smo, 100 ljudi 100 čudi. aja, kar se pa raznih znanstvenih tez in teh svari tiče, se pa točno tko vedno bolj odvija in priznava, da je to tko kot je in stare teorije odpadajo. sama osebno pač ne verjamem v globalno segrevanje. z zemljo se je to že velikokrat dogajalo, da se je segrevala in ohlajala in verjem mi, da ljudje mamo bolj malo s tem. ma sej je ful tega. živjeli i vidjeli.... |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by gape on 12.02.2008 at 20:07:58 Dayaran wrote on 10.02.2008 at 22:14:39:
kako to mislš ... kaj (točneje) te je 'zaintrigiral'? [smiley=1grin1.gif] |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Dayaran on 12.02.2008 at 21:31:33 Sicer sem samo nahitrco preletel (ker si glih že napopu link tam pr prometejcih), pa sem dubu občutek, da ste nekateri kr zapopadel idejo, da bo 2003 nek planet al kaj razturu našo zemljico. Pa me je sam zanimal, kako ste pol kej to dojemal po 2003? Ste si rekel: "Pizda sem nasedu new age foram!", al ste si rekel: "No, ni blo 2003, bo pa 2010!" ipd.... Sam tko no, mal provociram [smiley=1grin1.gif] |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by gape on 13.02.2008 at 10:59:58 Dayaran wrote on 12.02.2008 at 21:31:33:
preber natančneje ... |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by all4one on 13.02.2008 at 21:08:38 gape wrote on 09.09.2002 at 13:37:27:
se mal na to temo http://yowusa.com/video/survivng/1.shtml LP |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Dayaran on 14.02.2008 at 00:13:52 he he, 2012 bojo rekel, da bo 2016 ;D pa še par novih knjigc zraven fajn prodal 8-) |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Petra G. on 14.02.2008 at 02:37:55 no ja, saj cunami je bil takrat enkrat. leto gor al dol. 2012 je pa pač po mayevskih izračunih, sam si to ni treba interpretirat, da bo konc sveta. takrat pač gremo v nov cikel, nov koledar. nič se pa ne zgodi v enem dnevu, oz vse se zgodi v enem dnevu, ker je to itak vse kar je... en dan, en trenutek. |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Dayaran on 14.02.2008 at 09:35:36 Petra. wrote on 14.02.2008 at 02:37:55:
ja, to pa res. Sem ga osebno doživel... |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by gape on 14.02.2008 at 10:27:19 to sm že enkrat pisu se mi zdi neglede na use napačna predvidevanja kdaj da se bo kej zgodil, se nas večina strinja da naj bi 2012 prišlo do velikanskih sprememb. naš načrt je presvetlit zermljo - ozavestit zadnjo trpečo dušo - o njenem trpljenju; njihov načrt pa je, da usakmu človeku namontirajo čip, če u telo ne, pa usaj u denarnico ... usakdo je na eni od strani neki časa u dnevu kolk kje se usak sam odloči ... |
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Title: Re: Težki časi - zetatalk Post by Petra G. on 14.02.2008 at 12:35:39 Dayaran wrote on 14.02.2008 at 09:35:36:
aja? povej kaj več, me firbec matra. |
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