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Title: A N G E L I
Post by Amstel on 30.07.2002 at 01:40:55

Ne me vprašati, zakaj se kar naenkrat zanimam za angele.

Našla sem eno stran, ki govori o tem, kaj so, kdo so, omenjenih je nekaj molitev...
http://www.viveremeglio.org/angeli/ang_mar/mr101b.htm#cosa_sono

Tole mi je bilo všeč:
"Angelos, izhaja iz grščine... govori pa o božjih slih. Angeli nosijo osnovne podatke o kreaciji v sebi. So sli in sporočilo obenem. Angeli delujejo z našimi dušami, skladno z univerzalno inteligenco, da nam pomagajo razširiti vizijo in povzdigniti duha, tako, da nas spomnijo na resnico, lepoto in dobroto v vsem. Ko vabimo Angele, da nam pomagajo pri uresničevanju naših nalog, smo lahko prepričani, da bo vse potekalo skladno z Voljo višjega, ne samo skladno z našo voljo. Preko tega preprostega sodelovanja, postanemo sposobni odstraniti naš občutek izoliranosti. Resnično lahko pričnemo razumeti, da nismo sami, brez pomoči, temveč, da je pomoč in vodstvo ve okrog nas."

Arhangeli:
Michael (Veliki Angel, luči in ognja, naloga katerega je boj z Zlim; on pomaga pri razrešitvah ob črnomagijskih kontaminacijah, ognjena astrološka znamenja, predvsem Lev), Raphael (zaščitnik, zdravitelj, medicina, farmakologija, inspiracijo daje znanstvenikom, vodi Angele zdravljenja, vijola vibracija, prana, zemeljska astrološka znamenja, predvsem Devica) , Gabriel (ima domeno čez vodo, tekočinami, je angel Razkritja, sel novosti, modrosti, napoveduje rojstvo posebnih otrok, zaščitnik kreativnosti, Angeli varuhi so pod njegovim delovanjem, vodna znamenja nosijo njegovo kvaliteto, predvsem Rak.

Anael (Venera, umetnost, ljubezen, Tehtnica, Bik), Samael (Sham-A-El = svetloba-materia/ženskost-bog, gospod Karme, Oven ), Uriel (Božja svetloba, revolucionarnost, vodnar), Sachiel (prestiž, bogastvo), Casiel (podzemlje, kristali, rudniki, Kozorog).

Michael Arhangel Sonca - Nedelja - rumena in zlata barva
Gabriel Arhangel Lune - Ponedeljekì - bela b.
Samael Arhangel Marsa - Torek - rdeča b.
Raphael Arhangel Merkurja - Sreda - rjava b.
Sachiel Arhangel Jupitra - Četrtek - svetlo modra b.
Anael Arhangel Venere - Petek - zelena b.
Casiel Arhangel Saturna - Sobota - črna b.
Uriel Anrhangel Urana .

- Michael, predseduje zadevam uspeha, kariere;
- Gabriel, potovanjem in snidenjem;
- Raphael, trgovini, zgovornosti, zdravljenja;
- Sachiel, bogastvu;
- Anael, ljubezni;
- Samael, zmagi, soočanju z nasprotniki;
- Casiel, vedenje, nepremičninski posli, bdi nad starejšimi, angel tišine,
- Uriel, inovativnost, napredek.

Title: Re: ANGELI
Post by Devi on 30.07.2002 at 10:33:06

Ne spomnim se vec, kje, sem pa prebrala, da je arhangel Gabriel edini zenski angel med vsemi...se pravi...Gabriela :)

Title: Re: ANGELI
Post by gape on 30.07.2002 at 10:36:01

angeli2
http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=72;start=0

angeli
http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=50;start=4

angel
http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=ezofest;action=display;num=1003998074;start=2

ANGELOVA RAZODETJA
http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1006950101;start=3

Title: Re: ANGELI
Post by Amstel on 30.07.2002 at 16:28:29

Če ne uspemo "biti", torej biti to kar smo, čisti, pristni, nepokvarjeni, dovzetni in na razpolago za druge ljudi, odprti napram svetu, potem je absurdno pričakovati, da bomo prišli v stik z duhovnim svetom. Zato je pomembno, kako živimo. Ne samo takrat, ko želimo stopiti v stik z angeli. Vsak trenutek je pomembno, da smo gospodarji sebe, naših čustev in impulzov.

Pri sodelovanju z nebesnimi množicami, se ne smemo nikoli posluževati nevarnih postopkov, sredstev, kot so stanja transa na kateremkoli nivoju, avtomatsko pisanje, sprejemanje sporočil ali podobnih manifestacij.

http://www.viviamoinpositivo.org/angeli/index_fr.htm

Title: Re: ANGELI
Post by gape on 30.07.2002 at 23:03:44

Amstel wrote on 30.07.2002 at 16:28:29:

Pri sodelovanju z nebesnimi množicami, se ne smemo nikoli posluževati nevarnih postopkov, sredstev, kot so stanja transa na kateremkoli nivoju, avtomatsko pisanje, sprejemanje sporočil ali podobnih manifestacij.
http://www.viviamoinpositivo.org/angeli/index_fr.htm

explain

od kje si to pobrala?
je to popoln spisek?

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by Amstel on 06.08.2002 at 20:15:38

http://spiritart.org/Celeste/

(Gape, tisto je bilo napisano nekje pod naslovom o delu z angeli. Link sem dala.)

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by Zvezdica on 28.11.2002 at 10:43:40

Verjamem v angele, čeprav se bolj nagibam k temu, da so angeli v ljudeh, ki nas obdajajo... Prijatelji, partnerji, družina...

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by BRUS-LI on 11.12.2002 at 20:56:09

kaj če angel prevlada v človeku in ga le ta preveč sprejme.......potem za egoizem sploh zmanjka prostora? in kaj če ti to vse bolj sede....ta prisotnost? a se je iz tega razvil narcisizem ...... neke vrste obsedenoast ...ampak s čem le? kdo lahko to razloži?

lp

brus-li

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by ten-nej on 19.12.2002 at 17:49:39

"kaj če angel prevlada v človeku in ga le ta preveč sprejme......."

potem pride čas za gorenjske toplice.

al pa za grič

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by gape on 19.12.2002 at 18:27:36

BRUS-LI wrote on 11.12.2002 at 20:56:09:

kaj če angel prevlada v človeku in ga le ta preveč sprejme

potem za egoizem zmanjka prostora

to je itak cilj ...

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by kreden on 29.06.2003 at 23:49:50

Angel je priletel in jaz sem ga ujel,
v moji mreži zdej trpi,
ker moj ego ga ne izpusti.

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by Harry on 29.06.2003 at 23:58:51

wrote on 29.06.2003 at 23:49:50:

Angel je priletel in jaz sem ga ujel,
v moji mreži zdej trpi,
ker moj ego ga ne izpusti.

Spusti reveža, a ni že dovolj trpel?

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by veronika on 30.06.2003 at 10:58:37

wrote on 29.06.2003 at 23:49:50:

Angel je priletel in jaz sem ga ujel,
v moji mreži zdej trpi,
ker moj ego ga ne izpusti.

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by Terrania on 30.06.2003 at 15:45:37

wrote on 29.06.2003 at 23:49:50:

Angel je priletel in jaz sem ga ujel,
v moji mreži zdej trpi,
ker moj ego ga ne izpusti.

Ich ließ meinen Engel lange nicht los,
und er verarmte mir in den Armen
und wurde klein, und ich wurde groß:
und auf einmal war ich das Erbarmen,
und er eine zitternde Bitte bloß.

Neka bude Rilke, da je malo bolj poeticno. ;D

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by kreden on 30.06.2003 at 20:16:56

Was is das ???

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by veronika on 01.07.2003 at 13:21:57

Terrania wrote on 30.06.2003 at 15:45:37:

ampak, a ni Rilke, španski pesnik?

Verde, che te ciero verde. (zeleno, ker te ljubim zeleno)

ps če je kakšna beseda napisana slovnično ne točno, se iskreno neopravičujem, kaj čmo, še slovensk ne znam ornik pisat, kaj bi se pol ven s španščino metala ;D

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by bp on 01.07.2003 at 13:44:52

Niti ne.

Leta 1912 je Rilke, kot še danes marsikateri nemški turist sicer potoval tudi po južni Španiji, ampak nikjer ni ostal kakšen zapis, da je tam srečal Federica Garcio Lorco, ki je imel takrat približno 14 let in še ni napisal "Verde, que te quiero, verde".

lp

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by Terrania on 01.07.2003 at 17:47:12

Hehe :) da ga izpisem s celim imenom Rainer Maria Rilke, mislis da majo v Spaniji Rainerje? ;D

Vsak se kdaj zmoti. Meni je pa on zelo prijetno pisajoc, pol pa take stvari vem.

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by Devi on 01.07.2003 at 18:17:01

"A eden je, ki neizmerno nežno
to večno padanje v rokah drži."

Tole se mi je zmer zdela ena najlepših misli o smrti, bogu, angelih, kogarkoli je že imel v mislih, ko je to pisal... :)
mislim da je tudi od Rilkeja.

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by ten-nej on 01.07.2003 at 18:44:05

A ni bil tudi lekarnar tale Rilke?

uživajte!

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by veronika on 02.07.2003 at 16:26:41

Terrania wrote on 01.07.2003 at 17:47:12:

Hehe :) da ga izpisem s celim imenom Rainer Maria Rilke, mislis da majo v Spaniji Rainerje? ;D

Vsak se kdaj zmoti. Meni je pa on zelo prijetno pisajoc, pol pa take stvari vem.

kapituliram ;D

res ne vem, zakaj sem ga povezovala s Španijo? Me je že pamet srečala ;)

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by Marjana on 22.08.2003 at 13:58:46

An Astrology Guide to your Guardian Angels
By Joyce Keller
Chapter Four

Angels &the Astrological Signs

Aries: Invoke AA Michael, for help with power, authority, and
protection.

Taurus: Invoke AA Raphael, for help with health and wealth.

Gemini: Invoke AA Gabriel, for help with truth and communication.

Cancer: Invoke AA Uriel, for help with parents, homes, and children.

Leo: Invoke AA Ariel, for help with success and prosperity.

Virgo: Invoke AA Zadkiel, for help with service and creativity.

Libra: Invoke AA Zaphael, for help with love and beauty.

Scorpio: Invoke AA Haniel, for help with inner happiness and spirituality.

Sagittarius: Invoke AA Chamael, for help with travel and tranquility.

Capricorn: Invoke AA Simiel, for help with business goals.

Aquarius: Invoke AA Orifiel, for help with humanitarianism and charity.

Pisces: Invoke AA Daviel, for help with healing and intuition.

Daily Angelic Affirmations for each Sign.

These affirmations should be repeated three times a day. Within a month,
you should notice tremendous changes in your life. The changes could be
miraculous.

Aries: "God and His angels guide me lovingly and powerfully."

Taurus: "The wisdom of God and His angels never fail to inspire me."

Gemini: "I know that God and His angels will set things right."

Cancer: "I know that my dreams include divine instructions."

Leo: "With the help of the angels, my heart is open and growing in
love."

Virgo: "God's love heals me. The angels support me."

Libra: "With God and His angels, I am unlimited."

Scorpio: "My meditations are vivid and grow in clarity."

Sagittarius: "The angels help new understanding to flood my awareness."

Capricorn: "In quiet times, the angels connect me with the universe."

Aquarius: "The angels help me to envision a world of joy and happiness."

Pisces: "God and His angels guide and protect my family and me."

Angel - Attracting Crystals for each sign of the Zodiac.

The following crystals should be carried on your person, or held in your
hand in meditation, for greater angelic communication:

Aries: Amethyst, for inner peace.

Taurus: Clear Quartz Crystal, for attunement

Gemini: Tiger Eye, for confidence and self esteem

Cancer: Aventurine, for abundance and prosperity

Leo: Hematite, for power and grounding

Virgo: Rose Quartz, for love and service

Libra: Obsidian, for peace and harmony

Scorpio: Fluorite, for concentration and energy

Sagittarius: Moss Agate, for healing and direction

Capricorn: Sodalite, for harmony and love

Aquarius: Moldavite, for balance and intuition

Pisces: Green Tourmaline, for healing and regeneration

Title: Re: ANGELI
Post by jec on 30.08.2003 at 17:40:37

Amstel wrote on 30.07.2002 at 16:28:29:

Zakaj pa bi bilo avtomatsko pisanje nevarno? V knjižnici sem vzel knjigo: Kako se naučimo avtomatskega pisanja-Edain McCoy in piše da je avtomatsko pisanje manj nevarno od prečkanja čez cesto.
Ne razumem zakaj se ne bi smeli sporazumevati z angeli saj navsezadnje so oni tisti ki privolijo da bodo komunicirali z nami ali pa ne bodo. Pri avtomatskem pisanju se mi iz knjige zdi najbolj pomembno to da lahko komuniciramo z višjim jazom. Če pa dobimo stik z angeli ne vem kaj je to slabega saj nam lahko samo pomagajo kar se mi ne zdi slabo.

In če je avtomatsko pisanje negativna stvar, potem je negativna tudi radiestezija ki enako kot avtomatsko pisanje pretvarja energijo v gibanje.

Kje se motim če se da?

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by kreden on 01.09.2003 at 17:40:02

Tud če me jebete, ne bom nikoli rodil!

Title: Re: ANGELI
Post by Amstel on 03.09.2003 at 21:40:11

jec wrote on 30.08.2003 at 17:40:37:

Povedala bom, kako razumem članek.

Astralna bitja so zelo različna. Mi imamo neke vzorce. In tudi v astralu "privlačimo" določene vibracije.
Torej... Kot primer... v Pozitivkah je omenjen članek, ki pravi, da se mora radiestezist zavedati možnosti prisotnosti elementalov v svoji auri, ki lahko odgovore "deformirajo".

Elementali so v astralu, tako, kot razne druge entitete.

Kanaliziraš lahko kaj drugega, ne kako duhovno bitje.

Angeli pa sicer niso na tem astralnem nivoju.

Toliko.

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by dejzi on 27.11.2003 at 19:23:25

Bila sem na letošnjem knjižnem sejmu (še traja - do nedelje se mi zdi) in kupila knjigo založbe Iskanja POGOVORI Z ANGELI avtorice Doreen Virtue. (štant imajo v pritličju Cankarja desno že v vhodu na balkone Gallusove dvorane).

Knjiga ima 5 delov, prvi štirje so baje napisani po nareku angelov (torej prav z avtomatskim pisanjem, če prav razumem?), peti pa je delo avtorice....:
- sporočila vaših angelov
- sporočila nadangelov (Mihael, Rafael, Uriel, Gabriel)
- sporočila angelov narave
- angeli odgovarjajo na vaša vprašanja
- sporazumevanje z angeli

S tematiko angelov se do sedaj še nisem srečevala in čeprav sem šele začela brati, a mislim, da bo zanimivo!

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by Devi on 20.01.2004 at 16:31:43

Find your Angel
(Data and descriptions of Angels taken from a book of HAZIEL)

http://www.lilith.it/find.html

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by siaj on 23.01.2004 at 13:56:59

Lahko si izdelamo svoje lastne angelske karte, da nam pomagajo ustvariti oseben odnos z našimi angelskimi prijatelji. Potem lahko zjutraj v trenutku tišine izberemo eno, ki nam pomaga ves dan. To pa pomaga bolje spoznati angele in načine, na katere nas vodijo in s katerimi nam pomagajo pri našem delu in igri. Z angelskimi kartami naj bi delali, dokler resnično ne razlikujemo lastnosti vsakega angela. s tem bolje spoznamo lastnosti svojega Izvira.

Torej navdih za kreativnost in ustvarjalnost.

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by siaj on 05.02.2004 at 10:36:29

Še ena na temo angelov in sicer najdena v knjigi W. Blooma.

Mošjki in ženske vseh kultur...že od nekdaj govorijo in pišejo obitjih in stvorih, ki živijo v neki drugi - magični, religiozni ali psihični dimenziji. Ta bitja niso ljudje v dugi dimenziji, temveč predstavljajo posebno, drugačno obliko življenja.....Obstaja veliko imen za različne vrste teh bitij: silfide, rusalke, salamandri, gnomi, elfi, vile, škrati, kerubini, sefarini, angeli......V sanskrtu obstaja beseda, ki zajema vsa ta bitja. Ta beseda je d e v a , kar pomeni svetleče se bitje ali žarek svetlobe....

No, Devi. :) ;)

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by t on 05.02.2004 at 10:51:04

jeba z angeli je samo to, da se v ničemer ne ločijo od hudičev :-/

(pa če je tradiciji verjeti, hudiči kurac majo, anglčki pa so brez ritk - mogoče je pa to tisto)

uživajte!

Title: Re: ANGELI
Post by Sn0wBall on 05.02.2004 at 13:19:45

Amstel wrote on 03.09.2003 at 21:40:11:

Quote:

So first I will begin to explain the situation of someone who is new to spiritual matters, wants to explore and find out things, and seeks advice and guidance along his path after a short while. Imagine the common man from the street who follows his urges to listen to what is happening inside of him, to explore who he is. He might buy some books from a New Age store, have some recommendations from friends, and begins to work seriously on his development. Meditation, astral projection, dream recall, magic, or whatever he chooses to pursue, keeps him interested because he reaches his personal boundaries there. He wishes to see and know what he has never seen before in his life, although that slight little "something" has been there all his life. So he starts with introspection, with trying to see where he is limiting himself and to overcome this, which is necessary for personal growth. Feelings get uncovered, painful memories, and so on, but in general the beginning will be hard because the first thing that appears is what has been repressed for so long. Everyone carries around beliefs and convictions that serve a certain purpose in life, but that also are limiting. So far this man I illustrated here has no big problems: he works through whatever comes up with a positive mind, knowing that it's just a matter of time until he lets go of old fear and beliefs he doesn't need any longer.

Now let's see how this man would be affected:

Situation one: in his meditations, he has strange feelings and uncomfortable images in his mind. The solution would be: experience those feelings, learn what they have to tell, and see how they diminish on their own then. The other approach would be: "this could be a psychic attack, a negative being feeding off you. surround yourself with a protective shield and learn how to fend off attackers"
Situation two: during an astral projection, the person encounters something that appears as a scary being to him. The solution would be: "boo, what's that? so this is what my mind likes to project and to perceive, interesting... let's sort that out with myself". The other approach would be: "that's a daemon who want's to steal your energy, or worse. try to kill him as long as you can!"

You can imagine other situations on your own, but you see where this is going. Where a natural approach to explore those things in a calm and positive way would do the job, the fear and negativity instilled by people who like to 'fight' and 'attack' for whatever reason does nothing to alleviate the problem - in fact it makes it worse! Where's the sense in projecting your fear outwards and then attacking them? People who suffer need help and guidance to overcome those things and grow by doing that. They do NOT profit in any way from only hearing about daemons, attacks, vampires and so on, because the latter are all natural phenomena (although different from what they seem to be). They are no problem except if you make it one for you. So the statement by which I end this preliminary channeling (a teaser, so to speak) is:

Nothing can harm you except yourself.

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by Sn0wBall on 05.02.2004 at 13:23:34

Quote:

Now people often are confused about what is a "neg" (negative being), what is an illusion, what is 'real' and what is only projected outwards. We will come to more technical issues later and will talk then what common phenomena (negs, poltergeists etc) are about, but for now let's concentrate on one person. I will again use an example situation to illustrate my point.

Imagine you have a certain insecurity: you don't feel comfortable with an aspect of yourself. You might feel and think "I am not loved", with some other related negative thoughts. So you go around in this world, constantly trying to find acknowledgement, and if you don't get that you're down and depressed. Because you want to be happy (of course) and think you need outside acknowledgment for that, you get upset if someone deliberately shows antipathy towards you and rejects you. Because this fear of rejection is always present within you, you also mistake 'neutral' situations for a personal 'attack' on you. But because you do not want to acknowledge this as your own problem, you start to think like "Other people are always picking on me. I have to be strong, I have to compete, I won't let them hurt me!"

There is nobody attacking you, it is just that certain influences from the outside remind you of the things inside yourself you didn't come to terms with. Those influences can be anything: random 'thoughforms' floating around; ideas by other people you pick up intuitively; someone who wants to harm you; or a spirit who himself has troubles. But remember that all those things, conscious or not, evil or not, can do only one thing: point the finger on you and say "Hah! Nobody loves you, eh?" Can you see how you automatically then fall into the mechanism of denying yourself, 'attacking' in return, trying to fend off that 'neg'?

Of course nobody is perfect, and everyone knows that he has potential to grow. But you also have to accept this then, to see any shortcomings with love and compassion. "So what, I'm not perfect, but I can handle that!" should be the reponse that keeps you out of trouble and emotional unrest with a smile. Nobody is bad or worthless only because he is trying to stretch his limits by experiencing and overcoming some difficulties in his life - that's evolution.

There are no negs out there just waiting for the innocent. Forget the concept that the universe is a dangerous place. There are spirits, though, who sometimes are attracted to people in order to point fingers, in the sense of "give me your energy, do what I want, and (maybe) I will stop bugging you!" What you call a 'neg', though, is normally not more than emotional garbage hanging around. By fearing, you pump it up like an air balloon and create the exact thing that you fear. And what's more, any spirit, with whatever intentions, can not reach your attention and stay there without your consent.

If you fear, you attract and manifest the very thing you fear. If you put resistance to it, it will continue to stay there. But if you're calm and relaxed, you decide what you want to see and what not. If you're stable and content with what you are, any negativity that would like to reach you would just slide off and you would remain unharmed. And even if something disturbs you, say 'hello' to it, see what it has to tell you and all will be okay."

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by mauk on 24.08.2004 at 22:21:05

Astralni svet ima velik vibracijski razpon. Tam najnižje so pijanci, morilci in vsi ostali deviantneži, ki ne premorejo neke zdrave eksistence. Najvišje pa lahko vidiš vse božanske podobe in seveda tudi angele.

Samo pravi žur se začne šele takrat, ko ti uspe preseči matrico astrala. To je po mojem tako, kot da iz znanega stopiš v neznano. In šele takrat se mi zdi lahko angela srečaš v živo... tko da ti zadrgetajo kosti in kri živahno steče po žilah :)

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by Angel on 14.10.2004 at 09:56:10

evo mene.
tud jaz mam svojga angela varuha.

lp
Angel

Title: Re: A N G E L I
Post by Optimus T. Prime on 09.08.2010 at 18:16:52

veronika wrote on 30.06.2003 at 10:58:37:

wrote on 29.06.2003 at 23:49:50:

Angel je priletel in jaz sem ga ujel,
v moji mreži zdej trpi,
ker moj ego ga ne izpusti.