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Title: Darkness: The Lap of Creation Post by El Poeta on 27.07.2010 at 10:03:04 Darkness: The Lap of Creation What is everywhere? The only thing that is everywhere in existence is pure darkness. Light is a temporary happening, a burning up of something. Whether it is an oil lamp, an electric bulb or the biggest source of light that we know, the sun, all of these things are just burning up. An oil lamp may last 10 hours, an electric bulb may last over 1,000 hours, the sun may last 10 billion years, but they will all burn up. When everything burns up, what is there? Only darkness. Before the burning, it was all darkness. After the burning, it is all darkness. For light to happen, something has to be done. Darkness simply is. Light is limited. Just with the palm of your hand, you can stop it and leave a shadow of darkness behind. The sun is the very source of life on this planet. It is of tremendous size and intensity, but regardless of this, you can still stop the flow of sunlight with your mere hands. Or for that matter, just your eyelids. If you look up into the night sky, you will notice a lot of stars, but stars are just small specks. The vast expanse of the sky is pure darkness -- one can easily miss this. So in this boundless expanse of darkness, a little bit of light is happening here and there in the form of stars; one notices these little happenings, but not the boundless darkness. Why? Because as human beings, we are also little happenings; we are forms of existence, so we identify with other forms of existence. But the non-existence of darkness is the largest part of existence and it is the very lap of creation. It is from the lap of darkness that all creation blossoms, or as they say, it "bangs out" from infinite nothingness or darkness. It is the time frame of your perception which differentiates a bang and a blossom. If you were to see a nuclear explosion in slow motion, you would see it as a blossoming. But in real time, in your experience, it is a bang. Every religion, every culture on this planet, has always talked about the omnipresent, all-pervading nature of the divine. If you look at it, the only thing that can be truly all-pervading -- the only thing that can be everywhere -- is darkness or emptiness or nothingness. So why have we always referred to the divine as "divine light" and not "divine darkness"? We celebrate light simply because our visual senses are oriented towards light. If you were to live in a forest, you would see that when the sun sets and darkness falls, a much larger activity of life commences. There is a roar through the night of insects, birds and animals. If your eyes were made like theirs, if your visual sense were made like the nocturnal animals of the forest, you wouldn't be thinking of divine light. You would be thinking of divine darkness. So your prejudice towards light is simply because of the way your survival mechanism has been crafted. If there is not even an iota of light, the outside world completely evaporates from your perception. This makes you very much aware of what you are. The individual life becomes so dominant because the outside has completely disappeared. But people will not sit quietly in darkness because they want some perception that they are still there. So whenever there is darkness, people try to whistle, talk or sing. But in darkness, if you sit for long enough, then you will start wondering whether existence is really there or not. One of the biggest distractions in life is light. For your survival, light is extremely important, but to look beyond survival, it is a distraction. When the sun is out, you miss all the stars in the sky. Many of these stars are a thousand times bigger than the sun, but the stars get completely lost to your vision simply because the sun is flooding you with light. In the evening, when the sun goes down, you can see the stars in the sky, but in the morning, what is in the sky? It is just clear. Do you see the deception? One has always believed that light means seeing, but one sees more in darkness than in light. This is a distortion of perception. The whole system of yoga is dedicated to enhancing one's perception, as only what you perceive is real for you. The rest is just imagination or hallucination. The very nature of light is such that it will limit your perception to the physicality of existence. It is only when you are not blinded by light that one can perceive and experience the unity of existence beyond the separateness of the physicality. Hence, human beings have a natural attraction to those aspects of life which obliterate the physical boundaries and cause a sense of union, during twilight or darkness -- essentially, in the absence of blinding light. If someone says "I love you" at high noon, you probably wouldn't buy it. But if they say it either at twilight, moonlight or starlight, when darkness is advancing upon the day, you could easily fall for it. Naturally, the absence of light or reduced light becomes a conducive atmosphere for anything that seeks to unite life beyond the boundaries of the physical. And hence, whether it is in love, contemplation, prayer or meditation, there is a natural tendency to close one's eyes. Closing your eyes is a simple privilege that you have to shut out blinding light when it seems like an intrusion. In the womb, you were incubated in darkness; the tomb is of course darkness. Or in other words, the beginning was darkness and the ultimate is darkness. Light is only an in-between happening. It is in the lap of darkness that all creation blossomed. Paramahamsa Nithyananda - Meditation on Darkness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO0oejD4vJs From the works of living enlightened master Paramahamsa Nithyananda. In this clip taken from the discourses, "Power of Darkness" and "Inner Darkness", Swamiji gives us a beautiful understanding of meditating on darkness. Darkness is the mother energy on which the whole world is moving. Connecting with darkness will completely remove all fears of death, depression. Swamiji tells us that by meditating on darkness one can get to a thoughtless state since thoughtlessness is colorlessness. In this clip Swamiji describes two techniques of Shiva to meditate on darkness. The technique requires us to experience the deep sleep state with awareness. He tells us that when we add awareness to deep sleep we fall into the state of Samadhi or enlightenment. Darkness - Deeper Truths Revealed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B676PfadDsM&feature=channel |
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Title: Re: Darkness: The Lap of Creation Post by El Poeta on 27.07.2010 at 13:31:58 Torej Petri Klepci in drugi korenjaki, vas vprašam, ali je življenje kaj več kot le iluzija svetlobe? Ker moje telo je zgolj svetloba, ki ima zelo zelo nizko hitrost/frekvenco, zato se zdi, da je trdno. In isto vsa materija. Vsa materija je svetloba, ki pa se nekoč zagotovo iztroši in ni večna. Torej ... tema je substratum, svetloba pa iluzija, ki določen čas šviga sem ter tja in ustvarja iluzijo "življenja". Dober nateg, ni kaj. |
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Title: Re: Darkness: The Lap of Creation Post by gape on 27.07.2010 at 15:51:47 dobr povedan to nam je t že hotu stumbat pa ni uspel ... drgač pa ... se mi zdi ... nekoč se bo svetloba verjetno iztrošla ... do takrat pa je gut ... k sam tema ni tak žur ... če je svetloba je večji ... nism zihr da je nateg ... tko pač je ... razlaga teh zadev je lahko nateg ... ne pa one same po sebi - se mi zdi ... |
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Title: Re: Darkness: The Lap of Creation Post by Robi on 27.07.2010 at 16:37:44 Quote:
To pa ni res. Če bi bilo, potem ne bi opazili črnih lukenj, ki so bolj črne od ostalega vesolja. :) Vidne svetlobe je res bolj malo in opazimo le tisto, ki pade na mrežnico. Obstaja pa še sirok spekter drugega elektromagnetnega valovanja. Med katerim je tudi svetloba. Quote:
V naših glavah.... ;D |
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Title: Re: Darkness: The Lap of Creation Post by M.L. on 27.07.2010 at 21:22:50 El Pesnik wrote on 27.07.2010 at 13:31:58:
Materija je izšla iz svetlobe zaradi zgoščevanja le te. Postopno z dvigom na višjo frekvenco, bo materija nekoč zopet postala svetloba in ta svetloba se ne bo nikoli več zgostila. Pa lep pozdrav. |
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Title: Re: Darkness: The Lap of Creation Post by Petra G. on 27.07.2010 at 21:26:00 ja, to nas je t že zdavni naučil... dark is basic. pa tale film se s tem tud začne: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7qZYRHfFQs&feature=related ..first, there was darkness... zelo dobr film, btw in vidim, da je tud v celoti na youtubu. se ga splača pogledat. |
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Title: Re: Darkness: The Lap of Creation Post by El Poeta on 28.07.2010 at 08:43:25 Robi wrote on 27.07.2010 at 16:37:44:
No, tema je substratum, vesolje ima pa svojo mejo in kaj je onkraj te meje? Spet samo tema, neskončna tema, torej je vesolje samo mala pikica svetlobe v neskončni temi. In znotraj vesolja, ki je pikica svetlobe, se vidijo črne luknje - ker tam ni več svetlobe, kukr je ni izza raztezanja vesolja. Robi wrote on 27.07.2010 at 16:37:44:
Ne govorimo o konceptu teme, ki jo je zgradil naš um. Tudi o tem je govora. To ni tema v smislu dobro proti zlemu, to je primarna podstat vsega, če ti to hočeš videt al pa ne. In seveda človeško bitje, ki je samo delček svetlobe, sploh ne more videt, da je vse le tema - to se imenuje razsvetljenje, spoznanje te teme/praznine. Tako da ne govorimo o umskem konceptu teme. |
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Title: Re: Darkness: The Lap of Creation Post by El Poeta on 28.07.2010 at 08:47:51 gape wrote on 27.07.2010 at 15:51:47:
Evo vidiš, gape, tale "žur" se pa imenuje dvojnost. In včasih ti to imenuješ žur - kar bi modreci imenovali navezanost na življenje/Mayo, potem ko pa trpiš, in trpljenje je neizbežno v dvojnosti že zaradi tega ker se milijon malih svetlobnih delčkov kreše med sabo, potem pa iščeš pot ven in se ukvarjaš z "duhovnostjo". Tak da, žur res je samo, če je svetloba, samo največji žur imajo pa razsvetljenci, ki istočasno vidijo in osnovno temo in pa svetlobo, in potem nam povejo - življenje je iluzija, Maya, in mi ne vemo kaj pomeni. |
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Title: Re: Darkness: The Lap of Creation Post by El Poeta on 28.07.2010 at 09:22:56 Petra. wrote on 27.07.2010 at 21:26:00:
O kul! Bom sčekiral. Kdo pa so pol na koncu ti obiskovalci, katerih civilizacija naj bi bila v zatonu in ki pridejo na Zemljo v upanju, da se bodo rešili? Ker zanimivo na začetku pove, da je ta detektiv al kaj je, izdal svojo vrsto. Me zelo spomne ne reptilianse in pa graye, ter seveda naše svetovne politike. |
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Title: Re: Darkness: The Lap of Creation Post by gape on 28.07.2010 at 10:20:05 tema je pač status quo svetloba je pa sprememba in 'bog' je hotu spremembo - ljubezen in zato je naredu svetlobo ... in zdej smo u spremembi in neglede na to da bomo na konc verjetno padl nazaj u temo - u izvor - se zdej zabavamo u svetlobi ... od zabave je sicer blj mal ostal ... ampak neki pa je je še vedno na razpolago ... zame je razsvetljenje še vedno osvetlitev zadnjega delčka teme v meni - in s tem zlitje z vsemi ki so v svetlobi in to je 'moj' izvor da je izvor tega izvora v temi pa men nima panike ... če use izvira iz teme, mora tud to ;) in ... je čist useen če je dvojnost žur navezanost nanj je mal večji problem ampak njega uporaba, pa ne more bit problem trpljenje je preprosto posledica želja in pričakovanj tud njega nekdo hoče, kdo točno še ne vem ... svetlobni delčki se ne krešejo med sabo - oni so u enosti med njimi pa so temni delčki ... ti težijo da hočjo delat kar jim je namen/program ... ko te delčke presvetliš oni več programa nimajo ... in ne krešejo ničesar ... je pa energija ki so jo oni prej kradl tebi na razpolago pot 'vn' - u svobodo - iščem tkointko - 'duhovnost' je samo eno od orodij to da vidiš oboje ni prow posebi izvor žura zame maya sucks ... tko da ... jest se vračam u večji žur tm kjer je samo svetloba in bom dodal svojo svetlobo k tej svetlobi da bo še večja še blj močna in da bo tema manjša |
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Title: Re: Darkness: The Lap of Creation Post by El Poeta on 28.07.2010 at 11:02:51 Gape, upam da ti bo uspelo! ;) [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Ker sem se glih spomnil: recimo da si star 35 let (ne vem, ugibam). Povej mi, kje si bil pred zgolj 36 leti? Samo 36 let v preteklost, kje si bil? To je vprašanje ... vem da poznaš odgovor ... na istem mestu kot ga obiščeš vsako noč ... ko greš v stanje globokega spanca brez sanj ... samo 36 let nazaj v preteklost ... |
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Title: Re: Darkness: The Lap of Creation Post by El Poeta on 28.07.2010 at 11:08:49 Mal se hecam [smiley=smiley_up.gif] v zgornjem postu, ne mi zamerit ... Še 36 takih postov potem grem pa spat ... spet ... razen če ne ... Je rekla črna luknja: "Kaj se pa ti duvaš?" |
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Title: Re: Darkness: The Lap of Creation Post by Robi on 28.07.2010 at 22:54:51 Quote:
Onkraj te meje, je ne-obstoj..torej tudi teme ni. Kolikor razumem zadevo.....temi (darkness), daje nek pomen in smisel..ampak to je isto, kot če niču dajem nek pomen. Človeški um pa ni sposoben razmišljati o praznini. Zato so ravno izjave o temi in praznini, največje iluzije. Ko človek verjame v te misli, potem na koncu res ne more spoznati nič drugega, kot to, da je vse iluzija. :) In potem si reče, da je modrec in razsvetljen, ker je spoznal v kakšnih iluzijah je živel. Pač tak je..človek spozna sebe..ničesar drugega ne moreš spoznati, kot lastne misli v katerih se vrtiš.... Quote:
Ampak spoznanje ni tema ali praznina..Spoznanje je neka informacija, je spo-znanje. Šele ko umreš, se soočiš s praznino, ne moreš pa je spoznati, ker te več ni. Quote:
To sklepanje nima nobene realne podlage...Sklepanje je na podlagi tega, če je življenje iluzija, potem mora biti tema resnica.... :) Quote:
Očitno vidijo le iluzijo, če je to njihovo spoznanje. :) Quote:
Bi najraje tega modreca lopnil po glavi, pa mu rekel, da se naj ne sekira in ne trpi, saj je vse le iluzija.... :) |
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Title: Re: Darkness: The Lap of Creation Post by ajgor on 28.07.2010 at 23:43:20 Robi wrote on 28.07.2010 at 22:54:51:
Ampak spoznanje ni tema ali praznina..Spoznanje je neka informacija, je spo-znanje. Šele ko umreš, se soočiš s praznino, ne moreš pa je spoznati, ker te več ni. Quote:
To sklepanje nima nobene realne podlage...Sklepanje je na podlagi tega, če je življenje iluzija, potem mora biti tema resnica.... :) Quote:
Očitno vidijo le iluzijo, če je to njihovo spoznanje. :) Quote:
Bi najraje tega modreca lopnil po glavi, pa mu rekel, da se naj ne sekira in ne trpi, saj je vse le iluzija.... :) [/quote] Da malo razširim Dao, iluzija je pa zopet simbol, ki prihaja iz praznine. In si z iluzijo v dilemi. Zato pravijo tema v temi. Lp,Igor |
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Title: Re: Darkness: The Lap of Creation Post by gape on 29.07.2010 at 11:01:00 El Pesnik wrote on 28.07.2010 at 11:02:51:
jest ne ugibam, raje nameravam in zato ne more neuspet ... hence ... če svetlobe dejanske še ni, bo od zdej ;) ... dobr ugibaš btw |
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